O svesti "FIZIKA, SVEST I KREATIVNA IMAGINACIJA", autor Ivan Vukadinović, mozete pogledati postove 140, 141 i 142 na temi:
http://forum.burek.com/svemir-bog-postanak-mogu-li-se-naucno-objasniti-t293636.own.130.html

Cemu se ti uopste smijes ?! 

kad bi mogao da shvatiš i sam bi se smejao 

jesa wannabi se po obicaju smeje svojoj gluposti

Covek ima osecaj da kad neki ljudi pricaju o zivotinjama misle samo na koke i prasice kod babe i dede na selu.
Naravno da je covek kao zivo bice verovatno na samom vrhu
ukoliko ne postoji elita pritajenih "homo-superiora",koji kriju svoje osobine i polako preuzimaju svet
Covek se dokazao u tome svojom kulturom ali sta je kultura?
Sto se tice zivotinja kako neki ovde kazu "nize i vise svesti" to je inace zastareli pogresan termin .

Trenutno je u svetu medju naucnicima debata o definiciji kulture medju zivotinjama i sta je i ko je ima?
Ima prilicno puno kandidata u zivotinjskom svetu koji poseduju imaju neke ili sve sledece karakteristike
a iz njih proizilaze neki drugi faktori ;

-Mogucnost resavanja problema ?
-Koriscenje Alata ?
-Migriranje na isto mesto ?
-Postojanje Obicaja ,pomaganje jedno drugom u ulepsavanju i spoljnoj estetici ?
-Ritualne plesove u cilju privlacenja partnera ili plasenja neprijatelja?
-Briga o mladima,roditeljski instikt?
-Pravljenje sklonista i izbor njegove lokacije ?
-Duboki san ili mogucnost imanja snova?

Tacno, bas me juce jedan filadendron dobio u sahu, matirao me u 9om potezu

Eeee druze moj, lako je smejati se necemu sta ne znas. Otkrica naucnika su takva da se dize kosa na glavi. 

...mada su i precesto reciprocna.

Jesu drugar. Ljudi su to. Evo, npr. kako je, da kazem tako, sve pocelo sa time oko biljaka. Cesto se u nauci dogode slucajna otkrica.

Iz knjige " Tajni zivot biljaka", autori Peter Tompkins i Christopher Bird. Knjiga je pisana pre 30 godina. Mozes misliti sta se do danas sve otkrilo. 

Is Atheism Immoral?

Perhaps in order to deflect attention from a bankrupt world view, atheists love to point out the hypocrisy of professing Christians. Yet when the light is turned upon atheism and atheists over the last century, we quickly see that atheism gets the reward for vast pervasive immorality.

Since atheism possesses no basis for an objective morality, they are incapable of possessing a basis for a coherent system of morality. Atheists and agnostics in America are more likely than theists to find the following behaviors morally acceptable: illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; abortion; cohabiting outside of marriage; gambling; pornography, obscene language and engaging in homosexuality or bisexuality.

So many diseases are associated with bi/homosexuality, clearly the prohibition against homosexuality and promiscuity serve as excellent examples of how the bible was ahead of its time.
The survey by a pollster at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, found that adults who profess a belief in God are significantly more likely than atheists to say that forgiveness, patience, generosity and a concern for others are "very important." In fact, the poll found that on 11 of 12 values, there was a double-digit gap between theists and atheists, with theists more likely to label each value "very important."

The survey by sociologist and pollster Reginald Bibby examined the beliefs of 1,600 Canadians, 82 percent who said they believed in "God or a higher power" and 18 percent who said they did not.
What Motivation is there for Atheists to be moral?

Dr. William Lane Craig states the following regarding the comments of atheist debater Dr. Kai Nielson:
“He doesn’t really defend his point there, but he says, "I have a reason why we should be moral." He says, "It’s in our self-interest to be moral." I was really surprised to hear that coming from him. That sort of purely self-interested motivation for morality is, I think, fatal to the atheistic position because for someone who is sufficiently powerful not to be worried about what others do, self-interest can only lead to a sort of self-aggrandizing hedonism. It leads to the kind of life of a Marcos, a Papa Doc Duvalier, a Mobutu, and so forth. Self-interest will never be able to justify an ethic of compassion. And so I think that was a fatal admission on Dr. Nielsen’s part for the atheistic worldview.

An essay by the Christian apologist Dr. James Spiegel describes Bertrand Russell as a "misogynistic and a serial adulterer; a chronic seducer of women, especially very young women, even in his old age.

Dr. Phil Fernandes states the following regarding atheism and moral relativism:
“Nietzsche preached that a group of "supermen" must arise with the courage to create their own values through their "will to power." Nietzsche rejected the "soft" values of Christianity (brotherly love, turning the other cheek, charity, compassion, etc.); he felt they hindered man's creativity and potential.... “


Many other atheists agree with Nietzsche concerning moral relativism. British philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) once wrote, "Outside human desires there is no moral standard." A. J. Ayer believed that moral commands did not result from any objective standard above man. Instead, Ayer stated that moral commands merely express one's subjective feelings. When one says that murder is wrong, one is merely saying that he or she feels that murder is wrong. Jean-Paul Sartre, a French existentialist, believed that there is no objective meaning to life. Therefore, according to Sartre, man must create his own values.

There are many different ways that moral relativists attempt to determine what action should be taken. Hedonism is probably the most extreme. It declares that whatever brings the most pleasure is right. In other words, if it feels good, do it. If this position is true, then there is no basis from which to judge the actions of Adolph Hitler as being evil.

Richard Dawkins stated in an interview: “What’s to prevent us from saying Hitler wasn’t right? I mean, that is a genuinely difficult question."

In light of Dawkins comment, perhaps it is time to question the advisability of aligning yourself with an immoral world view, regardless of chic it may be in the culture. Do atheists have any basis to judge his or her actions as morally wrong. In light of the above, the answer would have to be, they don’t!

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