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Ma daj nemoj sam sebe da lazes...sta nije bilo krvoprolica,cjeli SVIJET prica o tome a takvi kao ti se protivite...uzas! Nemam sta da dodam tvojim komentarima vidim da tu nema normalne price... Smile
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ma taj eduardo je cigan obicni. bilo bi super da mu je noga ostala u terenu. ili jos bolje, taylor trci, a eduardova noga se zapetljala u pertle u vuce se za njim... ili da je ostala na stadionu, pa da se igra umjesto charity shielda, Kup eduardove noge... da pobjednik u finalu dobija nogu
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Ma nemoras ti nista postovati vidim da iovako nepostojes nista sto nije Srpsko,sa tobom se nemoze pricati kada za tebe svi okolo Srbije i Srpskog naroda lazu i propagandu sire a eto jedino se u Srbiji siri istina,ali ne nije od svih,Kandic,B92..itd oni su takodje nesrpski i nepatriotski!  Smile
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Srebrenica, a small town in Yugoslavia:
Five years on and the lies continue
Jared Israel (29 July 2000)

[Following is the text of a full-page ad which appeared in the 'Daily Telegraph' in Sydney, Australia on 20 July, 2000 and the 'New York Post' 28 July 2000.]

What really happened in Srebrenica?

When the Bosnian Serb Army recaptured the town of Srebrenica five years ago, Dutch UN peacekeepers were the only Western observers present. The Dutch UN peacekeepers ridicule Clinton Administration claims that Serbian troops massacred thousands of disarmed Muslims:


"Everybody is parroting everybody [about Srebrenica] but nobody shows hard evidence. In the Netherlands people want to prove at all costs that genocide has been committed. I don’t believe any of it. The day after the collapse of Srebrenica, July 13, I arrived in Bratunac [alleged massacre site] and stayed there for eight days. I was able to go wherever I wanted to. I was granted all possible assistance; nowhere was I stopped." (Captain Schouten, the ranking UN officer on the scene in Bratunac, Het Parool, 27/07/95, my emphasis)
The Myth: Led by the Clinton administration, the Western media has used the Myth of Srebrenica to slander the Serbian people for five years. The idea is: repeat a lie enough times and people will believe it.

But what really happened at Srebrenica? What happened there before the Serbian army recaptured the city?

As we will see, there was a massacre, in fact there were many massacres, but the Serbs were not the villains. They were the victims.

Islamist terrorists, based in Srebrenica, raided local villages, mutilating and murdering Serbian and moderate Muslim villagers. Innocent civilians. It's a miracle that when the Serbs retook Srebrenica they did not exact revenge.

ISLAMIST LEADER BOASTS OF MURDER

The UN declared Srebrenica a 'safe zone' in 1993. That meant a) Srebrenica was supposed to be disarmed and b) it was supposed to be safe from attack

But the UN never disarmed the Islamists who occupied Srebrenica.

The Islamists "troops" were actually a gang of sadists in the tradition of the local Islamists who joined the Nazi SS during World War II and slaughtered Serbs, "Gypsies" and Jews. Listen to their modern-day incarnation, Commander Nasir Oric, leader of what is called the Bosnian Muslim Army, in Srebrenica:


"[On the video tape I saw] burning houses, dead bodies, severed heads, and people fleeing. [Commander] Oric grinned throughout, admiring his handiwork. 'We ambushed them,' he said when a number of dead Serbs appeared on the screen.

"The next sequence of dead bodies had been done in by explosives: 'We launched those guys to the moon,' he boasted. When footage of a bullet-marked ghost town appeared without any visible bodies, Oric hastened to announce: 'We killed 114 Serbs there.' Later there were celebrations, with singers with wobbly voices chanting his praises." ('Toronto Star,' 16/07/95)
Note that Oric says his "troops" mutilated and slaughtered innocent villagers, not Serbian troops. In War II the Nazi Islamists killed by mutilation, using so-called "cold weapons" - knives, hammers, axes. They liked to be photographed with what they called "trophies" - the severed heads of their victims. That was the Nazi past, right? Well, here again is Nasir Oric, Commander of the terrorists, otherwise known as the Bosnian Muslim Army, in Srebrenica:


"Nasir Oric's war trophies don't line the wall of his comfortable apartment. They're on videocassette tape: burned Serb houses and headless Serb men, bodies crumpled in a pathetic heap.

'"We had to use cold weapons that night,' Oric explains as scenes of dead men sliced by knives roll over his 21-inch Sony...Reclining on an overstuffed couch, clothed head to toe in camouflage fatigues, a U.S. Army patch proudly displayed over his heart…the Muslim commander is the toughest guy in this town [of Srebrenica], which the U.N. Security Council has declared a protected 'safe area.'" (Washington Post, 16/02/94)
The Clinton administration strongly supported the Muslim regime in Sarajevo. Oric's killers were that regime's army. Is this why Oric wore a US army patch? Note that the Post expresses no horror over Oric's unbelievable crimes.

Oric worked for the Muslim regime in Sarajevo. The Clinton administration praised that regime as pro-Western and tolerant.

Well,. the head of that regime was and is Alija Izetbegovic. He joined the pro-Nazi Young Muslims in nazi-occupied Sarajevo in 1943. He helped recruit members of the "SS Handzar Division." He worked with Hitler’s intelligence service (ABWER and GESTAPO). In 1946 he was sentenced by the Yugoslav Military Court to three years in prison for his fascist activities. (1)

Jumping forward to 1990, here's a quote from Izetbegovic's book, "Islamic Declaration:"


"...There can be no peace or coexistence between the "Islamic faith" and non-Islamic societies and political institutions. ... Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf…and the state should be an expression …of the religion. ..." ('Islamska Deklaracija,' p. 22)
Izetbegovic idolized the Ayatollah Khomeini. His fanatic Islamist movement lost the 1990 elections to Fikret Abdic. Abdic was a moderate Muslim. But the Bush and Clinton administrations backed Izetbegovic who forced Abdic out. Abdic and his moderate Muslim followers allied with the Bosnian Serb Army against Izetbegovic's Islamist fanatics.

Why has the Clinton government backed these Islamist fascists? As we will see later, Clinton is supporting the same sort of sadist butchers in Kosovo today - in fact, in Kosovo these killers have been given official jobs with the UN. More on that in a moment.

THE MYTH OF THE 7000 MISSING MUSLIMS

By 1995 Oric's murderous raids forced the Bosnian Serb Army to send some of its limited number of troops to retake Srebrenica. Unfortunately, Oric and most of the terrorist thugs escaped. Today Oric is free as a bird, running a disco in the town of Tuzla.

As the Serbs entered Srebrenica, the terrorists retreated into the forest, heading for Islamist-dominated Tuzla. Firefights raged all night. 2,000 terrorists were killed. US Ambassador to the UN Richard Holbrooke clams up to 8000 Muslims were executed, but there is overwhelming evidence that in fact they got away. The Sarajevo regime has helped spread the lie that they were killed by the Serbs in order to demonize the Serbian people.

[Thousands of the] "missing Bosnian Muslim soldiers from Srebrenica who have been at the centre of reports of possible mass executions by the Serbs, are believed to be safe to the Northeast of Tuzla.....

"For the first time yesterday, however, the Red Cross in Geneva said it heard from sources in Bosnia that up to 2,000 Bosnian Government troops were in area north of Tuzla. They had made their way from Srebrenica 'without their families being informed', a spokesman said, adding that it had not been possible to verify the reports because the [Islamist] Bosnian Government refused to allow the Red Cross into the area."
('The Times,' 02/8/95)
WHY HAVEN'T THE BODIES BEEN IDENTIFIED?

We often hear that:

"Some 4,000 bodies have been found so far in the vicinity of Srebrenica, but only 70 have been identified." ('Agence France Presse' ('AFP'), 10/7/00)
According to the Sunday Mail: 'After five years we have found 160 mass graves, but we have no idea who the people are."

The grave sites that NATO has dug up are mostly a) near battlefields or b) near the towns attacked by Nasir Oric's serial killers. The Clinton administration admits that "we have no idea who the people [in these graves] are."

But we do know that Oric's Islamist terrorists killed thousands of Serbian villagers. Doesn't it make sense that the bodies NATO has dug up are A) victims of the Islamist terrorists, B) soldiers who fought the Islamists, C) Islamist terrorists killed in fighting?

HOLBROOKE INSULTS HOLOCAUST VICTIMS

Richard Holbrooke, US Ambassador to the UN, recently reopened the Myth of Srebrenica, attacking the Serbs. Said Holbrooke: "Srebrenica must not be forgotten " ('AFP,' 7-11-00)

The phrase "Never forget!" is associated with victims of Nazi terror in World War II, especially Jews killed in the Holocaust. How dare Holbrooke invoke the Holocaust in order to slander the Serbs? The Serbs died alongside their Jewish (and Roma, or 'Gypsy') neighbors at the hands of Islamist Nazis during World War II. In the 1990s they were killed by NATO-backed Nazis like Izetbegovic and Oric in Bosnia and the KLA in Kosovo.

COVER-UP: NATO'S CRIMES IN KOSOVO

Why is Holbrooke reopening Srebrenica? Because he wants to hide the nightmare created by the Clinton administration in Kosovo.

"Murder, torture and extortion: these are the extraordinary charges made against the UN's own Kosovo Protection Corps in a confidential United Nations report written for Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

"The KPC stands accused in the document, drawn up on 29 February, of 'criminal activities - killings, ill-treatment/torture, illegal policing, abuse of authority, intimidation, breaches of political neutrality and hate-speech.'" ('London Observor,' March 12, 2000)
As many as 350,000 Serbs, Jews, "Gypsies", Slavic Muslims, Catholic Croatians, Turks and ethnic Albanians opposed to the KLA have been driven from Kosovo. Their property has been stolen by gangsters, blessed with official UN positions. Apartment blocs have been emptied by terror and then sold to UN and NATO personnel. This is reality. It is in order to cover-up these crimes and prevent public outrage that Holbrooke has dragged out the Myth of Srebrenica - once again. (2)

***

(1) - Izetbegovic's past is documented in the Russian Gazette "Izvestia," November 17, 1992.

(2) - For first-hand accounts of the terror the UN and NATO have brought to Kosovo see:

* "Driven from Kosovo" by Cedomir Prlincevic, leader of the Jewish Community in Kosovo, at
www.emperors-clothes.com/interviews/ceda.htm

* "Save the Families - The Women of Orahovac Speak," at http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/savethe.htm

* "The UN appoints an alleged war criminal in Kosovo" by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/unandthe.htm

BLAMING THE SERBIAN VICTIMS

Over 87 Orthodox Christian churches have been destroyed since the UN and NATO invaded the Serbian province of Kosovo last June. The Clinton regime forced the Kosovo Serbs to disarm. Then the NATO-allied KLA fascists drove 350,000 Serbs, "Gypsies," Croatian Catholics, Slavic Muslims, Turks, Jews and ethnic Albanians opposed to the KLA out of Kosovo. Their property was stolen or destroyed. Thousands of young girls were literally enslaved. To prevent public outrage at these crimes, US Ambassador to the UN Richard Holbrooke hypocritically evokes Srebrenica. Holbrooke says "Never forget!" He has conveniently forgotten the crimes committed by Clinton-supported Islamist-fascists in Sarajevo and Kosovo.

( or more on the destroyed Orthodox churches in Kosovo see 'Season of Peace' at http://emperors-clothes.com/churchpics/list.htm )

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ma taj eduardo je cigan obicni. bilo bi super da mu je noga ostala u terenu. ili jos bolje, taylor trci, a eduardova noga se zapetljala u pertle u vuce se za njim... ili da je ostala na stadionu, pa da se igra umjesto charity shielda, Kup eduardove noge... da pobjednik u finalu dobija nogu
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Deliberate descriptions of what happened in Srebrenica in the mainstream media inevitable include the phrase "the worst atrocity in Europe since World War Two" or "since the Holocaust," sometimes also "the worst massacre of civilians," etc. They consciously evoke the Holocaust and Nazi imagery to tie Srebrenica to genocide, Serbs to Nazis, and Muslims to their innocent victims. But in reality, most of the men who died in the aftermath of Srebrenica's fall were combatants, members of the 28th Infantry Division of the Army of the Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina, whose commander is on trial by the very Hague Inquisition on charges of murder, rape, and torture.

What most likely happened to them, while horrific, was not something only the Nazis – or by deliberate analogy, the Serbs – would do. Consider this:

"The U.S. armed forces bombed one end of the main highway from Kuwait city to Basra, sealing it off. They bombed the other end of the highway and sealed it off. They positioned mechanized artillery units on the hills overlooking it. And then, from the air and from the land they simply massacred every living thing on the road. Our forces did not wait for the fleeing people to surrender, they did not surround them and force them to surrender, they just exterminated them."

- William A. Cook, December 2002, emphasis added

Yet the Serbs actually waited for Srebrenica Muslims to surrender. They evacuated the women, children, and the elderly they found at the Potocari UN camp. Serbia itself sheltered some 800-plus Muslim refugees from Srebrenica. And in another Muslim enclave that fell just a few days later, Zepa, there was no massacre. Even assuming, arguendo, that the recorded act of the Scorpions was somehow standard practice for the POWs taken in the attempted breakout from Srebrenica, or even that Serb forces preferred not to take prisoners, such atrocities do not amount to genocide. But "breaches of the Geneva convention" doesn't sell newspapers and TV ads; it doesn't justify invasions and occupations, nor the creation of Imperial inquisitions out of thin air. "Genocide" and "worst atrocity since the Nazis" do.

A decade later, "Srebrenica" has become a justification for Imperial intervention in the Balkans. Together with the concept of "joint criminal enterprise" that seeks to blame the entire political and military leadership of Serbs in Yugoslavia for that country's violent collapse, it underpins the "right" of Washington and Brussels to use force to "solve" the chaos and death created by their politics. In asserting their "right" of power, they stop at nothing, even using atrocity porn such as the "Scorpions" videotape.
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Koju ti pricu imas svasta...upali Vijesti navece nasminkaj se i pricaj sa voditeljicom najbolje ce ti to tako biti...nitko ti neodgovara a ti uvijek u pravu Smile

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Ma daj nemoj sam sebe da lazes...sta nije bilo krvoprolica,cjeli SVIJET prica o tome a takvi kao ti se protivite...uzas! Nemam sta da dodam tvojim komentarima vidim da tu nema normalne price... Smile
Koji cjeli "svijet" pricao o tome....pa zar mislis da njih boli uvo za neki dogadjaj od pre 10*15 godina.
Evo bas sam cuo pre neki dan dva Engleza razglabaju o Srebrenici i ubise se o prici kako su Srbi genocidan narod.
Ja ne zelim da dajem bilo kakav sud u vezi Srebrenice ali ne zelim ni da ga Vi toliko marginalizujete i dizete preveliku halabuku. Bilo, proslo ne ponovilo se.
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Ma i mene boli briga,sta je se desilo samo nemogu vise da slusam kako su svi ostali klali a kada se nesto spomene u vezi Srba,onda je to laz ili propaganda...

I da cjeli Svijet mislim ono sto za mene jeste cijeli svijet od amerike do Europe pa preko Azije...znaci svugdje smo mogli gledati i dokumentacije...

Ovo izgleda da nas dan danas jos ugrozava....

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Ma i mene boli briga,sta je se desilo samo nemogu vise da slusam kako su svi ostali klali a kada se nesto spomene u vezi Srba,onda je to laz ili propaganda...
Pa bilo je zlocina u Srebrenici ali sta se desilo pre tog zlocina i koliko je i Srba ubijeno i proterano iz tog istog mesta pre nego sto su Srbi se osvetili.
Bilo je zlocina i sa jedne i druge strane, ali svi znamo da u svetu ocekuju da ce Srbi priznati da su napravili zlocin i ispasce da mi sami priznajemo da smo zlocinacki narod sto je budalasta generalizacija. A sta je sa zlocinima nad Srbima?! To se nigde ne spominje?! To izgleda nije dovoljno interesantno za svetske medije ili je jos strasniji zlocin to bio pa nece ni da ga spomenu! Kada svi budu priznali svoje zlocine tj. i muslimani i hrvati onda ce i Srbi a ne da se stalno optuzuju samo Srbi.
A vidis zasto bi @Rassse i priznao kada ni ti sam neces da priznas da je oluja bila zlocin.
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