Pozdrav i teb :mrgreen:i,
milioniti put: prekini sa offtop-om i vrati se na temu.

Zena je upravo napisala kako se blizanac i skorpija mogu slagati...mislio sam da je to neizvodljivo i hteo sam da se zahvalim za ovaj tekstic, da li treba da tebi licno opravdam svaki post ?

Postoji jos jedan topic, Pripadajuce duse, gde su se svi mogli zahvaliti na tekstovima iste , a ti opominjes mene posle jednog posta ?

Sem toga , i sam nemam nista protiv off-topic politike, ali samo ako se primenjuje za sve. Nema potrebe biti neprijatan.

Sve je u redu,ponekad smo svi nervozni,hvala TP

Nije jedan post nego milion ovakvih istih postova. Naravno da se primenjuje na sve, a tebi treba poseban tretman izgleda?
Rekoh ti već, ako ćeš da čavrljaš koristi odgovarajuću temu za to ili privatne poruke.
Ako imaš bilo šta da kažeš o škorpijama a da drugi sa uživanjem pročitaju, izvoli...

The Libra - Scorpio Cusp - (Oct. 19 - 25) /granica izmedju Vage i Skorpije/

   The Libra-Scorpio (L-S) cusp is an overlapping and admixture of the seventh sign of the zodiac (Libra) and the eighth sign of the zodiac (Scorpio). The L-S cusp is a period that can be characterized by themes of drama and criticism. A heightened sense of the drama of life, both in philosophical and personal sense, leads to an increased awareness of the dynamics of one's own existence, both past and present; a highly critical attitude emerges which cuts away careless generalizations and sloppy thinking, and aims for the essence of truth. Such an attitude can lead to profound changes in personal relationships, how leisure time is spent in general to a re-evaluation of one's place in the world.

   Days, which comprise the L-S cusp exemplify various aspects of Drama and Criticism, where the airy, social, theatrical Libra nature confronts the more serious, deeply feeling, and critical nature of Scorpio.
The dramatic "Scorplibran" is one of the most critical individuals of the whole year. Those bored in this period can perfectly embody the spirit of their age but also comment on it. No matter what walk of life they inhabit, their facile minds and often sharp tongues will mark them as individuals to be reckoned with. Most often, if asked their opinion they give it straight out, holding nothing back. Therefore those born on this cusp may be sought out for honest evaluations, but equally well feared and even avoided for their piercing frankness.

   Every cusp personality comprises conflicting elements, being influenced by two very different adjacent signs. In the case of this particular cusp, the highly developed social awareness of Libra can be well integrated with the powerfully controlling detachment of Scorpio. However, conflicts may also arise between intellectual and emotional energies, which may be extremely difficult to bring into balance. Primarily thought-feeling types can mistrust intuitive impulses.

   On the other hand, those born on the L-S cusp also have a wild side, and can at a moment's notice drop their objective stance in favour of risk and adventure. Furthermore, once they are committed to a situation they will usually refuse to stop until the denouement is complete (no matter how painful it may be). Because of their total involvement, and also their charm and attractiveness, those born in this period may indeed be difficult to unseat from a position of authority or for that matter from a place in a lover's heart.

Ja licno sam na ovoj granici... za mene i ne vaze ove stvari, ali ako postoji jos neko na ovoj granici, mozda pronadje sebe ...

Jako dobar text, pozamasan u psihologiji, prvi deo spominje to da je tesko razumeti Skorpije ali da je moguce pokusati tako sto ce jedan prvo razumeti Bika(Taurus), kao drugu stranu novcica i izvuci ono sto ih pokrece, i shvati prvo njihove potrebe.
Spominje i povezanost nekih od nas sa simbolima kakav je i jedan u mom potpisu na psiholoski nacin.

Plasim se da ce text proci neprimecen, ali ako ga bar neko procita bicu zadovoljan, u suprotnom ne moze se reci da nisam pokusao

Scorpio and the Process of Transformation.


  Again, when I talk about Scorpio I am talking about an archetype that is embodied in every human being. Individuals with Scorpio prominent in their charts are merely exemplars of what Scorpio represents in all of us. Like Taurus, the psychological need of Scorpio can be inferred from behaviors that are typical of this sign. We note the penetrating stare, the deep, smoldering sexuality, the air of mystery, the passionate intensity. Scorpio is powerful, provocative, and willing to die for its convictions. It tends to be crisis-oriented in that it is innately attracted to conditions of emergency or transition brought about by irreversible change. There is likewise an attraction to the hidden, the forbidden, and the dangerous. At its best, Scorpio exposes wrongdoing, roots out evil, and heals wounds of every sort. Considering all of the above, it seems that there are three core themes at the heart of Scorpio. These are (1) transformation - death and rebirth, healing, regeneration, renewal, reform; (2) power - integrity, intensity, coherence of intention, potency, concentrated force; and (3) sex - fusion, merger, penetration and assimilation, unification, and the like. Astrologers will readily agree that these themes are typically associated with Scorpio. I would say, then, that Scorpio represents the associated needs for sex, power, and transformation. What may not be clear is how these three processes are interrelated and interdependent.

  To say that Scorpio represents the need for transformation is to imply something that needs to be transformed, thus a wound or injury. Transformation further implies a movement, or evolution, from the simple to the complex. In chemistry, if two substances are put together and there is any kind of reaction, both are transformed into a third substance that incorporates the two into a new whole. Likewise, if there is an injury to the body, such as a diseased or dysfunctional organ, this constitutes a division that compromises the integrity of the organism. To heal the division is to eliminate what does not belong and restore the organ to its proper function - that is, integrate it back into the whole. Transformation, then, is a whole-making process that involves processes of elimination and integration.

  On a psychological level, the process is the same. Almost everyone has some aspect of his or her psyche where they feel wounded, vulnerable, and afraid. Different models refer to this by various names - complex, shadow, pathogenic belief, trauma, neurosis, the daimonic, the bad self, and the bad object are but a few. Almost invariably, these wounded parts of the psyche reside in the unconscious, repressed or dissociated from conscious awareness. Generally the wound is bound up with some particular need that has been deemed too dangerous or painful to express. This could be the need for autonomy, dependency needs, competitive strivings, intimacy, the search for meaning, or the need for sensual gratification. Somewhere the individual learned that to experience this part of one's nature was likely to cause oneself or others pain. So it remains hidden below the surface of consciousness. And Scorpio, we know, is associated with whatever is hidden or lurking below the surface of things. Scorpio's attraction to the dark side derives from the impulse to heal. The healing process, however, invariably involves a certain amount of pain and suffering for the individual who is wounded. To go into the dark places, to remember the trauma or the loss or the insult, is to confront that part of oneself that is full of fear and shame. Negative attitudes have to be broken down and eliminated, painful effects integrated, and the repressed function restored to its rightful place in the overall psychic economy. All of this is classically Scorpionic.

  What, we may ask, is the result of all this suffering and healing? The answer is power. Whatever one fears has power. It has power because it drains energy that would otherwise be available to the person. Herman (1992), for example, writes that all traumatic experiences share a common similarity of denial and disempowerment. To lift the denial and resolve the fear is to take back the power that has been lost. Consider what happens when one is afraid. There is a contraction of the self, a repression that requires a significant expenditure of energy to keep the repressed in place. Jung (1960) called these compacted areas "psychic complexes," which he defined as a magnetic vortex of emotionally-charged contents and associated ideas clustered around a central core. A complex constitutes an image of a certain psychic situation, e.g., the enjoyment of one's body (Venus/Taurus), that is incompatible with the habitual conscious attitude. The individual, for example, may compensate his fear of bodily pleasure by developing the attitude, "I don't need to be touched or loved - keep away." The Venus/Taurus impulse is repressed and behaves, in Jung's words, "like an animated foreign body in the sphere of consciousness" (p. 96). While the complex can be suppressed with an effort of will, it tends to assert itself with a vengeance at first opportunity - perhaps when the individual is stressed, tired, or disinhibited from drugs or alcohol. With a Venus/Taurus complex, this "return of the repressed" might result in inappropriate touching, overindulgence in food or drink, compulsive shopping, and the like. Since Pluto rules Scorpio, we might expect to see this complex symbolized by a Pluto- square-Venus aspect.

  Because these dark areas of the psyche are not consciously recognized, they tend to get projected and identified as residing in someone or something outside the self. In myth and literature, this is symbolized by any entity that embodies evil, e.g., a monster, dragon, devil, demon, or vampire. As symbols of transformation, monsters are Scorpio archetypes. Their common characteristics reveal the essential mechanism of the complex. Monsters are chaos beasts lurking at the interstices of order and inhabiting regions of the unknown. Though the forms and types of monsters are numberless, a single principle underlies a majority of them: a monster is out of place, conforming to no class or violating existing classes. Monsters are mutations, embodiments of new and unfamiliar states. Take dragons, for example. Perhaps the most widespread monster in myth and folklore, the dragon is said to be born through a mixture of species, and its form is always an unlikely compound of apparently disparate and uncombinable parts - the body of a serpent with the scales of a fish; feet, wings, and occasionally the head of a bird; the forelimbs of a lion, the ears of a bull, horns of a stag, and so on. Combinations are legion. Likewise, the devil is a hybrid creature - cloven hooves, tail, pointed ears, scales, claws, fangs, and snout. Because monsters embody our fear of transformation, a monster's form merely requires that it be strange. It is, in effect, a symbol of what the individual dreads will happen should he be possessed by the complex that resides in his own unconscious, i.e., he will be transformed into something foreign and monstrous.

  A common characteristic of monsters and devils is that they can transform themselves into anyone or anything. And so can the sexual offender. Witness the mild-mannered, soft-spoken Jeffrey Dahmer, or David Koresh, or any of the thousands of rapists, child molesters, and sexual deviants who masquerade as your friendly neighbor, baby-sitter, or local priest that too late reveal themselves to be yet another variant of the sex drive gone berserk. Devils/monsters almost invariably have a sexual component. The vampire with his erotic blood lust, the dragon to whom must be sacrificed a virgin, and the devil who seduces virgins are obvious examples, all of which represent the eroticization of fear.

  Rollo May (1969) points out that it is precisely the repressed instinctual life that constitutes the complex, or what he calls the daimonic. "The daimonic is any natural function which has the power to take over the whole person" (p. 123). Because the power of the daimonic is bound up with certain memories and needs that are abhorrent to the individual, it can be destructive to the conscious personality in the same way that a monster appears destructive. When this power goes awry and one element usurps control over the total personality, we have daimon possession. Jung referred to this as "enantiodromia." If one side of a pair of opposites becomes excessively predominant in the personality, it is likely to turn into its contrary, e.g., priests turn into child molesters. Enantiodromia helps us to understand how daimon possession occurs. In a desperate effort to repress the complex, the individual overcompensates in the opposite direction by identifying with qualities and attributes that are opposed to the nature of the impulse he fears. Sooner or later, however, the repressed life asserts itself and the conscious personality is abducted into the underworld of the psyche.

  Obviously, the daimonic is not an actual entity but refers to a fundamental, archetypal function of human experience that I associate with Scorpio and its planetary ruler, Pluto. The deteriorated form of this concept, consisting of the belief that we are taken over by demons flying around equipped with horns, is a projection of inner experience outward, reified into objective reality. May (1969) argues that such a conception is specifically damaging to our experience of love and will: "For the destructive activities of the daimonic are only the reverse side of its constructive motivation" (p. 124). In the daimonic lies one's vitality, the capacity to consciously open to the power of Eros and be transformed. If one represses the daimonic, he or she becomes an accomplice on the side of the destructive possession. To dissolve the power of the daimonic, says May, one must "identify with that which haunts you, not in order to fight it off, but to take it into your self; for it must represent some rejected element in you" (p. 133). To do this is to take back the power that has been projected outward and so restore to oneself the function of what was heretofore repressed. This is empowerment.

  The myth of Hercules slaying the Hydra illustrates this principle quite nicely. As one of his twelve labors, Hercules is sent to slay the Lernean Hydra, a serpent-like beast who inhabits a dark cave in a swamp. The nasty Hydra has been preying upon the folk of the countryside. A particularly deadly creature, it has nine snake heads, each of which is equipped with poisonous fangs. The problem is that no one can kill the Hydra by cutting off its heads, for each severed head sprouts three new ones in return. Hercules makes the mistake of trying to club the Hydra into unconsciousness and then cut off its heads. But this only compounds his difficulty because by attempting to "cut off" the problem, it only grows worse. The heads proliferate and Hercules is about finished. Suddenly he remembers that Hydras cannot tolerate light. So he drops down to his knees, seizes the Hydra by its legs, and thrusts it up into the sunlight, whereupon it shrivels up and begins to die.

  The meaning of this myth is fairly obvious. The serpent, of course, is a primary symbol of Scorpio. Likewise, Scorpio rules dangerous, hidden places like caves. The Hydra is the daimon or complex that is dangerous precisely because it is repressed into the cave of the unconscious. It preys upon the personality by seeking to subvert and destroy the conscious identity. It can temporarily be suppressed, that is, clubbed into submission, but it cannot be permanently "cut off." Attempts to repress it only cause it to reassert itself with a vengeance (repression, after all, is what started the problem in the first place). The complex proliferates with every effort to sever it from conscious awareness. The only way the problem can be resolved is by humbling oneself, as Hercules did by dropping to his knees, and holding the dark and inferior element of the complex up to the light of consciousness. Once this is done, the complex can be integrated into the personality so that it no longer poses a threat. By such a heroic act the individual is empowered and transformed. An increase in power accompanies transformation because with the assimilation of the complex there is no longer a split in the personality. The energy that was previously bound up in the complex becomes available so that there is a greater coherence of intention, increased unity and integrity, and thus more concentrated force of personality.

  Trauma research has shown that when an organism is faced with an overwhelming external threat against which there is no possibility of escape, there is a tendency to "freeze" or "play dead" - that is, to inhibit or suspend all reaction that would normally be appropriate (Browne, 1990; Herman, 1992). The capacity to suspend or inhibit an overwhelmingly threatening experience serves the purpose of blocking the threat of internal destabilization. Accordingly, whenever an individual is faced with an overwhelming experience that is sensed as potentially disintegrating, there is the ability to suspend it and freeze it in an unassimilated, inchoate form and maintain it in that state indefinitely. This may occur with a singular traumatic experience, like rape or abandonment, or in response to a chronic condition such as growing up with an alcoholic or abusive parent.

  The psyche seems to know that to fully experience the meaning of the threatening encounter would destroy its core organization. So it is cut off, delayed, dissociated. Also cut off is whatever part of the psyche is associated with the traumatic experience. A child who has been molested, for example, may cut off her connection to her body and need for sensual gratification (Venus/Taurus). This whole area is avoided because it tends to reactivate the original traumatic experience. As such, it constitutes a "dead zone" or void in the personality. Just as you cannot cut off the head of a Hydra, however, so too the original trauma does not go away, but instead produces the panic attacks, agitation, nightmares, fatigue, emotional blunting, and other clinical phenomena that are associated with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Just as the Hydra bursts forth from the cave to prey upon innocent folk, so the daimon bursts forth from the unconscious in the form of intrusive flashbacks that disrupt conscious functioning. Ultimately, the only way to heal the wound is to consciously work it through. Generally speaking, this requires giving up control, surrendering to feelings that emerge as the complex is encountered, opening to and embracing the meaning of the experience, eliminating negative attitudes and defenses that were developed to ward off the pain of the original trauma, and integrating the contents of the trauma into consciousness and long-term memory. This is holding the Hydra up to the sunlight. And, as we shall see, it is not dissimilar to what happens during sex.

Ne sanja li svako od nas o idealnom partneru, zeni ili muskarcu sa kojim cemo ostvariti pun sklad, i dusevni i telesni? Evo prilike da u odabiru "onog pravog" ili "one prave" pomognemo svima zainteresovanima rodenim u znaku Skorpije, kroz ciju zodijacku dvanaestinu Sunce prolazi od 23. oktobra do 22. novembra…

OVAN (E): Nema okolisanja kad se sretnu Skorpija i Ovan. Odmah se prelazi na stvar. Kad ovo dvoje vode ljubav, kao da se vodi rat. Prsti na sve strane!

BIK (E): Iako se razlikujete maltene u svemu u cemu se dvoje mogu razlikovati, zelja koja medju vama prosto iskri dovoljno je inspirativna za ulazak u pravu avanturu. Obara vas s nogu Bikova gurmanska narav, uzivate u njegovoj hedonistickoj prirodi.

BLIZANCI (G): Mlaka veza. Ipak, moze da prodje: nema tu ni eruptivnih kulminacija ni dramaticnih padova. Realna je mogucnost da cete Blizanca odvratiti od sebe svojim naglasenim animalnim instinktom, toliko da pocne da lici na djace pred kojim je pretezak zadatak.

RAK (S): Nadahnjuju vas i zagrevaju prijemcivost i toplina Raka. Imate utisak da je samo na vas cekao da ga oslobodite tromosti oklopa. Oprez: Rakova blagost i strpljenje mogu vas najozbiljnije zavesti pre nego sto to primetite.

LAV (P): Odgovara vam Lavova istrajnost i izdrzljivost. I u krevetu je pouzdan. Svemu, medjutim, nedostaje one neophodne pikanterije, necega bez cega vi ne mozete da zamislite pravu vezu. Njegovi prohtevi toliko su prosti, maltene banalni, da se to lako ispreci kao "minus" koji se ne da zanemariti.

DEVICA (S): Pribojavate se da cete je zbuniti i oterati od sebe, ali nije ni Devica bas tako naivna. U vasem strasnom zagrljaju zaboravlja svoja nacela i rado skida sminku cednosti. Ako iko moze da probudi vulkan u konzervativnoj Devici, onda ste to upravo vi.

VAGA (P): Vase komplikovane fantazije remete Vaginu koncepciju. U pocetku ce pokazati dobru volju da vas sledi u vasim neizmernim prohtevima, ali kad stvari pocnu da dolaze na svoja mesta, Vaga ce jednostavno reci: "Puj-pike, ne vazi!" i povuci se iz arene vasih strasti.

SKORPIJA (S): Idealni tandem za prozdirucu strast! Iako dobro znate da bijete ljubavnu bitku u kojoj, nece biti ni pobednika ni pobedjenoga, pasionirano se prepustate voljenom ( voljenoj) sa kojim ( kojom), uz sve ostalo, delite i horoskopski znak. Kada se posteno izivite na tom ljubavnom bojnom polju, mogli biste bas da probate i nesto drugo: da se volite, recimo.

STRELAC (G): Strelac samo prica, prica, prica... Steta, reci cete, sto je, izgleda, samo na jeziku dobar. Nije on, doduse, tako los ljubavnik, ali u odnosu na sve sto o sebi ume ( i voli) da govori, realne "performanse" ipak nisu na odgovarajucem nivou...

JARAC (S): Posto je vrlo tesko "odlediti" studenog Jarca, krecete u veliku igru. Uskoro ce vam se uciniti da se zainteresovao za vas, pa cete preci na takticko povlacenje. Tu su vec lepe sanse da ce on definitivno da zagrize. I, tada je - vas.

VODOLIJA (P-G): Vasa senzualnost pokrece istrazivacki duh Vodolije, ali svi vasi telesni prohtevi mogu prosto da ga blokiraju. Jadnoj Vodoliji malo fali nacisto da se izgubi! Situacija u kojoj ce se najbolje snaci svakako je ona u kojoj vi pokazujete jednu od svojih znamenitih osobina: fatalisticku ljubomoru. Tu ce se visprena Vodolija osetiti kao riba u vodi i zbrisace iz vaseg erotskog bazenceta a da i ne stignete to da registrujete...

RIBE (S): Ovo je susret dva autenticna intuitivca. Ne osecate preveliku potrebu za razgovorima, objasnjavanjima, detaljisanjem - razumete se i bez reci, cak i u okolnostima dalekim od optimalnih. Sve na stranu, vazno je to sto vi zaista umete da zadovoljite mastovitu i nestalnu Ribu. Mada vam tu i tamo smeta sto gotovo nikad ne deluje dovoljno angazovano i koncentrisano na vase pasionirane nastupe!

Vozač bez premca

Strastvena, burna i nepredvidiva, Skorpija je vozac sa kom nema sale. Dozivite li saobracajnu nesrecu s predstavnikom ovog znaka, sigurno cete je zapamtiti ceo zivot. Jer, Skorpija ne govori mnogo, niti ce vas gnjaviti time ko je kriv i slicno, ali ce vas ubojitim pogledom preseci tako da cete izgubiti volju da se s njom natezete i dokazujete svoju naivnost.

Skorpija je vozac bez premca. Skoro da nema ambijenta ili situacije u kojoj ona nema poslednju rec. Ako pitate za saobracajna pravila, Skorpija ce vam odmah reci da ona postoje zato da bi se krsila i u trenu ce to dokazati. Zato, ako vidite Skorpiju u automobilu koji je zaustavila saobracajna policija zato sto je prekoracila dozvoljenu brzinu, budite sigurni da ce ona da stisne papucicu gasa do maksimuma. I, naravno, ostaviti zabezeknutog policajca kilometrima iza sebe.

Skorpija voli da flertuje i nema situacije iz koje se ona nece izvuci. Ona koristi svoje nagone i intiuciju, savrsen osecaj za improvizaciju i manevar. Strastvena je, dinamicna i prkosna. Za nju nema situacije u saobracaju koju ne moze da resi. Njenoj pronicljivosti sigurno nece promaci trenutak koji joj omogucava prednost nad ostalim vozacima. Zilava je i ne postoje tako teski uslovi voznje u kojima se ona ne bi snasla. Voli izazove i na njih ce rado odgovoriti.

Voli da se dokazuje, a u vrucem i napetom trenutku, ona je uvek hladne glave. Gde su brzina, izazov i neizvesnost, tu je i Skorpija. Ona je vozac bez kompromisa, netolerantna, snalazljiva, brza i spretna. Njena strastvena priroda trazi snazne i atraktivne automobile.

sta ti znace ova slova u zagradi?

ja volim Škorpije iako sam Lav! nikakve veze to nema. Ili ja nisam tipičan Lav, a i nisam.
Dubina, mračno nešto i drugačije od svih, skeniranje drugih, poniranje do srži, kad vole to je silno i jako, bučno i strasno, ljubomorno, ne zaboravljaju ni dobro ni zlo i same vraćaju i plaćaju. Borbene. Strasne. Ma Škorpije su mi odlične! Nisu ni kecave ni slabašne i to mi se sviđa!