Vidim da Iranci ulazu velika sredstva u razvoj savremenih Pa topova velikog kalibra.Da budem iskren mislio sam da je ovaj koncept PVO sredstava odavno napusten,ali kolko sam vido na snimcima ovo je i dalje veoma ozbiljno naoruzanje u rukama dobro obucene posade.Ako neko ima informacije o PA topovima velikog kalibra drugih zemalja bilo bi fino da napise nesto o tome.

http://www.arabiatube.com/video/3067/-Irans-Produces-Smart-Anti-Aircraft-Gun

Iran has successfully manufactured a smart 100mm anti-aircraft gun as part of a campaign to boost the country\s defense capabilities./n\The Defense Industries Organization has completed the wholly domestic task of manufacturing the 100mm anti-aircraft gun and its necessary ammunition to counter aerial threats posed by enemy fighters, helicopters and cruise missiles,\ Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad-Najjar said during the system\s Sunday inauguration ceremony./n\One of the most important features of this weapon is its smart system which can track down the target and fire at it automatically,\ he added./nMohammad-Najjar pointed out that the shells used in the system are equipped with a fuze which enables them to explode and terminate the target from a close distance even if they fail to hit it directly./nThe 100mm anti-aircraft gun is an artillery system that can create a missile shield against enemy aircraft at medium and low altitudes./nTehran began upgrading its defense capabilities after the eight year war with Iraq\s of Saddam Hussein in the 80s./nAlthough Saddam\s military was heavily armed by the West- particularly the US- he was unable to capture Iranian soil at the end of the war./nWestern denial to sell Iran the weapons it needed to ward off a foreign aggressor prompted the government to establish a domestic military industry./nDuring the past years, Iranian experts have managed to design and manufacture various missiles, fighters, stealth aircraft, drones, submarines, radar systems, and military vessels./nNews of the production of an anti-aircraft artillery system comes as Israel, the Middle East\s sole nuclear power, continues to threaten Iran over the country\s nuclear program./nIn quite remarkable comments, the Israeli ambassador in Australia Yuval Rotem said on Friday that Tel Aviv\s recent military offensives in Gaza was a \preintroduction\ to dealing with the \threat posed by a nuclear-equipped Iran\./nThis is while Iran\s nuclear program is under the constant supervision of UN nuclear watchdog inspectors, who have confirmed that the country\s atomic activities have not diverted toward weaponization.

Njihova industrija u nacelu nije losa!!

Naoko zastarelo izgleda ali ako je automatizovano i vis etopova u sprezi (sto izgleda i jeste), onda nije to tako bezopasno za avionce koje se spusti. Mada, ovi topovi mogu da se gadjaju onda sa velikih visina onim vodjenim bombama (ono, kao, ima kamera pa onda tacno ushicaju dje treba).

Automatizovani su i oni naši Boforsi, pa to ne znači da je reč o modernom naoružanju .....

Slazem se u potpunosti.
Pored ovog PA topa,naso sam podatke da rade i veoma savremene PA topove 35mm,koji su povezani sa radarima za navodjenje.

I ja sam u dilemi kolke su zaista mogucnosti ovakvih topova protiv aparata na srednjim i velikim visinama.Po snimcima koje sam gledo,ceo sistem je veoma mobilan i automatizovan.Sistem cine radari za rano otkrivanje i navodjenja kao i kamere koje su integrisane u sistem.Sad opet ni to nista ne znaci dok se sve ne ispita u praksi,to jest u realnim uslovima.Znam da smo mi imali PA topove 88mm koji su bili stacionirani u okolini Bara.Da li bi se u danasnje vreme ispaltila modernizacija takvih topova ili ne tesko je reci.

Evo par slicica po meni jos jednog interesantnog sistema.Radi se o 76mm PA topu koji je montiran na sasiju tenka.

sumnjam u uspeh ovog ozivljavanja starih kalibara PVO iz prostog razloga :

- da bi se ostvarila potrebna preciznost sistem mora da bude spregnut sa radarom ,pa je onda izlozen anti-radarskim raketama isto kao i raketni sistemi PVO.

- danashnji avioni lete dosta brze i sa nepravilnijim putanjama nego npr b-24,29 ili 17  . takodje dejstvuju sa vecih daljina . dakle chak i da radar moze da zahvati precizno  cilj , granata treba da predje dugachak put do njega ,a za to vreme avion moze da ubrza ,promeni kurs i.t.d. ...

Ujkaalberte, cija je ovo sprava, ovo na sasiji tenka i ima li naziv?

Evo sta sam naso.

The Otomatic self-propelled anti aircraft gun was developed as a private venture by Oto Melara in the mid 80s. The first prototype was completed in 1987. The Otomatic was never accepted to service, even though it outperforms many self-propelled anti-aircraft systems.

   The Otomatic is fitted with a 76-mm automatic gun, which is a variant of 76-mm naval gun. It's rate of fire was increased from 85 to 120 rpm. The Otomatic fires short 6 round bursts. It uses fragmentation rounds against air targets and armor-piercing against ground targets. A total of 70 rounds are carried.

   It is worth mentioning that modern SPAAGs are usually fitted with 20 - 40 mm guns. Such a powerful gun was selected because of it's long range. The Otomatic can engage helicopters at 6 km range, before they release their anti-tank guided weapons. Range against aircraft is 4 km and over 2 km against light armored vehicles. This artillery system could also be used in coastal defense role.

   The Otomatic has all-weather operational capability. It is fitted with search and tracking radars, optronic aiming and tracking system and digital fire control system. Radar location range is 15 km against aircraft and 8 km against helicopters. It can track 8 to 24 air targets simultaneously. Vehicle has datalink interface for target acquisition and designation.

   Armor of the Otomatic provides protection against small arms fire and artillery shell splinters. Vehicle is fitted with NBC protection and automatic fire suppression systems