Vidim da ti je lepo tamo i da uzivas u prirodi  kad odes na odmor kod Babe u Bosni ,
Sto se tice tvog komentara ,
(svima je dobro poznata situacija drzavno upravljanih starackih domova na balkanu )

Voleo bih da sii sposoban da sagledas stvari u celini i vecem kontekstu,
pogledaj prvo svetsku listu i ocekivanu duzinu zivota pa onda pogledaj gde umiru vise u gradu ili selu,
tek posle postavljaj pitanja zasto,

Dakle od 195 zemalja na svetu
Srbija je na 71-om mestu ,Bosna i Hercegovina na 62-om mestu  Hrvatska na 52-om po ovekivanoj duzini zivota.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy ·

A sad pogledaj Svetsku mapu samoubistava napravljenu od svetske zdravstvene organizacije WHO.
Na svakih 100 hiljada stanovnika po Samoubistvima 
 Hrvatska je na 14 mestu,Srbija i to sa Crnom Gorom na 15 mestu a Bosna i Hercegovina na 36 mestu.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate -

prince alex to sto vise ljudi umire na selu je jedino razlog migracije selo-grad pa stari nece otici u grad ali mladi oce pa stari umiru a mladi jos zive. a slucajno sam negde procitao da najduzi zivotni vek imaju stanovnici jednog ostrva bez ikakave tehnologije. za par godina sela nece ni postojati na tim mestima ostace ogromne farme

Razumem sta zelis da kazes definitivno ima tu nekog faktora ,ali neke od ovih zemalja na prethodnim
listama i nemaju neke gradove i industriju da bi to moglo da se kaze za sve.

I Ja sam cuo nesto slicno u vezi dugovecnosti ljudi sa Okinave kod Japana mislim da je prosek tamo veliki sa najvise 115 -godisnjaka ,prepisuju zdravoj dijeti sa puno omege 3 i sportu.
A takodje su tu ljudi iz Hunza doline u Pakistanu na granici izmedju Kine i Kasmira.
Dobra organska hrana,Svez vazduh,Panoramican pogled,Niski nivo stresa ,ko zna ,veruje se da ce vecina danasnjih 50 godisnjaka ima mogucnosti da dozivi 120 godina zivota.
U svakom slucaju Japanci uprkos dugovecnosti imaju i vrlo visok procenat samoubistava ,
Cak je i Japanac autor knjige izdate 1993 sa kompletnim uputstvim o razicitim metodama samoubistva,
i knjiga je prodata u tirazu od milion kopija.

A suicide method is any means by which one or more persons purposely kills themselves. Examples of methods that have been used to commit suicide are listed ...
Bleeding - Drowning - Suffocation - Electrocution
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods

Ja znam jednu devojku koja je tad bila devojcica i pokusala da ubije sebe lekovima al nije izgleda uzela ogromnu kolicinu posle dva dana su je nasli u bezivotnom stanju . A imala je sve od pazanje roditelja,ljubavi,finasiski obezbedjena. Kao dete je bila mirna radostna od jednom cujem sta joj se desilo i pitam se zasto je to uradila?
A danas je kao devojka od 19god jako jedna histericna,agresivna i samo od jednom pocne da se dere na svakog bez ikakvog raloga ili mozda ona ima razliog samo ga mi neznamo. A jako lepa devojka sta joj bi?

To je tvoje licno misljenje, ja znam da je pobegao od svake diskusije koju smo zapoceli i da mi je bilo muka od njegovog persiranja.
Definicija samoubistva je ekstremno jednostavna - Samoubistvo ili suicid, od latinskog sui caedere što znači ubiti se, predstavlja čin svjesnog i namjernog oduzimanja života samom sebi.
Nikakva religija na to nema nikakav uticaj, a narocito tako minorna kao sto je SPC.
No, I'm not feeling that. Samoubistvo je prestanak zivota sto je direktno suprotno spasenju.
A za Hristove reci sam ti objasnio da se odnose na negiranje ego-a, "mrznja" nije najbolji nacin da se objasni
kako je "Ja sam" = Bog, odnosno da sve sto imamo pripada Bogu i da mi nemamo nista.

Misljenja sam da nisi Silvanusu ni do kolena ni po znanju, ni po rezonu ni po ljudskosti... a to "bezanje"od diskusije koje je on radio svojim kulturnim stilom je ono sto bi ja nazvao "necu da trosim vreme na ******* kada je sve jasno".



Edit by Lightsoft: 

nekada je hrabrost, nekada ludost, retko kukavičluk. zavisi od motiva

To je jako vazno za sve kojima je vazno tvoje misljenje. Ja ne iznosim svoje misljenje o Silvanusu
nego cinjenice.
A koliko znanja ima u religiji, to je jasno svima koji znaju sta je znanje a sta su napamet naucene dogme.

To sto ti smatras cinjenicama je tvoje misljenje, a vecina nas ovde ne zarezuje tvoje misljenje nista vise od toga da se nasmejemo kada nam je dosadno. Cinjenica je da je Silvanus u odnosu na tebe ljudina u svakom smislu, a ti se i dalje kriji iza tvojih besmislenih floskula i nekih analiziranja i povezivanja u kojima se i sam gubis. Obzirom da ovde nikome nije vazno tvoje misljenje i svi vise cene Silvanusa od tebe ti mozes do sutra da to racionalizujes ali to jeste tako.

@Light, zamolicu da moje postove cenzurises samo kada ima razloga za to  Ja nisam napisao ni za jednu osobu da je budala vec da ja (licno ja) dozivljavam Silvanusovo ponasanje kao "nemam vremena za budalu/budale"... Dve odvojene stvari, prva je odgovor o tome sta mislim o Silvanusu, drugi deo posta nema veze sa konkretnim clanovima vec moje vidjenje toga... kada nekome kazem da je budala, onda sankcionisi 

Evo nekih relativno poznatih ljudi koji su izvrsili samoubistvo

Za Merlin sada znamo da je CIA bila odgovorna tako da mozemo da je skinemo sa liste,
to je bilo ubistvo.

Johnny Ace, (1954), singer
Nick Adams, (1968), actor
Neil Aggett, (1982), South African worker's union leader
Louis Althusser, (1990), French philosopher
Jean Améry, (1978), Austrian writer
Fridolin Anderwert, (1880), Swiss Federal Councilor
Roger Angleton, (1998), brother of imprisoned Texas extortionist who admitted in his suicide note killing his sister-in-law, socialite Doris Angleton.
Mark Antony, (30 BC), Roman politician and general
Mohammed Atta, (2001), suicide bomber
Mary Bacon, (1991), thoroughbred race horse jockey
Albert Ballen, (1918)
Isobel Barnett, (1980), British TV personality
Cliff Baxter, (2002), Enron vice-chairman
Gertrude Bell, (1926), archaeologist, writer, spy and administrator known as the "Uncrowned Queen of Iraq"
Walter Benjamin, (1940), German cultural theorist
Pierre Bérégovoy, (1993), French politician, killed himself in after serving a year as prime minister
Alain Bernardin, (1994), founder/owner of "Le Crazy Horse Saloon" - Paris
Ricky Berry, (1989), American NBA Basketball player (Sacramento Kings)
Bruno Bettelheim, (1990), child psychologist
Ludwig Boltzmann, (1906), Austrian physicist
Ernest Bornemann, (1995), German sexologist
Francesco Borromini, (1667), architect
Karin Boye, (1941), Swedish author
Charles Boyer, (1978), French actor
Jonathan Brandis, (2003), American actor
Eva Braun, (1945), mistress of Adolf Hitler
Richard Brautigan, (1984), American writer
Herman Brood, (2001), Dutch musician and painter
Brutus, (42 BC), Roman politician, assassin of Julius Caesar
Eustace Budgell, (1737), remembered because his death was discussed in a conversation between Samuel Johnson and his friend and biographer Boswell

Capucine, (1990), French actress
Dora Carrington, (1932), artist
Robert Stewart, Viscount Castlereagh, (1822), British politician
Cato the younger, (46 BC), Roman republican statesman
Ugo Cavallero, (1943), Italian Field Marshal
Paul Celan, (1970), Romanian poet
Valerie Chacon, (1982), wife of Bobby Chacon
Thomas Chatterton, (1770), English poet
Leslie Cheung, (2003), Hong Kong movie star and singer
Chung Mong-hun, (2003), Korean businessman, chairman of Hyundai Asan
Kurt Cobain, (1994), American musician and singer (Nirvana)
Billy Collins Jr., (1984), young boxer
Ray Combs, (1996), former host of popular American game show Family Feud
Hart Crane, (1932), American poet
Andrew Cunanan, (1997), killer of Gianni Versace and four others
Ian Curtis, (1980), English singer and songwritter (Joy Division)
Adam Czerniakow, (1942), Warsaw Ghetto leader killed himself rather than obey Nazi orders
Dalida, (1987), French singer
Gilles Deleuze, (1995), French philosopher
Pete Duel, (1971), American actor
Budd Dwyer, (1987), American politician
George Eastman, (1932), inventor
Brian Epstein, (1967), British manager of The Beatles
John Gould Fletcher, (1950), Pulitzer Prize winning poet
Romain Gary, (1980), Russian - French novelist, film director and diplomat
Charlotte Perkins Gilman, (1935), American feminist and author (Herland)
Joseph Goebbels, (1945), German Nazi leader
Hermann Göring, (1946), German Nazi leader
Richard Greene, (1983), boxing referee
Robert von Greim, (1945), German Air Marshal
Mitch Halpern, (2000), boxing referee
Pete Ham, (1975), rock musician (Badfinger)
Tony Hancock, (1968), British comedian
Hannibal, (182 BC), military commander
Larry James Harper, (2001), member of the Texas 7
Donny Hathaway, (1979), singer, best known for his duets with Roberta Flack
Felix Hausdorff, (1942), mathematician. He committed suicide with his wife and sister-in-law in the concentration camp.
Benjamin Haydon, (1846), British painter
Ernest Hemingway, (1961), American novelist
Margaux Hemingway, (1996), American actress and model
Heinrich Himmler, (1945), German SS leader
Adolf Hitler, (1945), Nazi Germany's leader
Doug Hopkins, (1993), musician, founding member of rock group The Gin Blossoms. Killed self with a .38 pistol December 5
Michael Hutchence, (1997), Australian lead singer of rock group INXS
Phyllis Hyman, (1995), singer


Judas Iscariot, (1st century), according to the Bible, betrayed Jesus
Isocrates, (338 BC), Greek rhetorician
Jim Jones, (1978), reverend, leader of the "People's Temple" cult. Died during mass suicide that cost the lives of more than 500 in Guyana.
Sarah Kane, (1999), British playwright
Terry Kath, (1978), guitarist, Chicago (died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound)
Brian Keith, (1997), American actor (Family Affair)
Dr. David Kelly, (2003), British scientist and source of BBC story about the Dodgy Dossier
Heinrich von Kleist, (1811), German dramatist and poet
Hans von Kluge, (1944), German Field Marshal
Arthur Koestler, (1983), Hungarian novelist, political activist and social philosopher
Hannelore Kohl, (2001), wife of ex-chancellor of Germany Helmut Kohl
Jerzy Kosinski, (1991), Polish-American author
Paul Lafargue, (1911), son-in-law of Karl Marx, communist theorist and author of The Right to Be Lazy
Hans Langsdorff, (1939), captain of the Admiral Graf Spee
Hector Lavoe, (1993), salsa music singer
Florence Lawrence, (1938), Hollywood's first movie Star
Lee Kyung Hae, (2003), South Korean activist
Primo Levi, (1987), Italian author
Malcolm Lowry, (1957), British writer
Gherasim Luca, (1994), Romanian surrealist
Aleksandr Mikhailovich Lyapunov, (1918), Russian mathematician, mechanician and physicist
Billy MacKenzie, (1996), lead singer of 1980s pop group The Associates
Magnentius, (353), Roman usurper
Niklaus Meienberg, (1993), Swiss author
Kitty Melrose, (1912), English actress
Charlotte Mew, (1928), English poet
Kid McCoy, (1940), world champion boxer (real name: Norman Shelby)
James Miller, fan man, (2003), parachuter
Walther Model, (1945), German Field Marshal
Marilyn Monroe, (1962), American actress
Donnie Moore, (1989), relief pitcher for the California Angels
Ted Moult, British television personality
Renate Müller, (1937), German actress


Gérard de Nerval, (1855), French writer
Luis Ocaña, (1994), Spanish cyclist, Tour de France winner
Phil Ochs, (1976), American singer
Hugh O'Connor, (1995), actor
Dazai Osamu, (1948), Japanese novelist
Billy Papke, (1936), world champion boxer
Jules Pascin, (1930), French-American painter
Sylvia Plath, (1963), American poetess, author and essayist
Dana Plato, (1999), American actress
Freddie Prinze, (1977), Puerto Rican comedian and actor
George Reeves, (1959), actor, played Superman on television
Carlos Roberto Reina, (2003), former president of Honduras
Erwin Rommel, (1944), German Field Marshal
Iris von Roten-Meyer, (1990), artist and jurist
Mark Rothko, (1970), Russian-American painter
Irv Rubin, (2002), leader of the Jewish Defense League
Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria, (1889), see Mayerling)
Akutagawa Ryunosuke, (1927), Japanese novelist
George Sanders, (1972), actor
Alberto Santos-Dumont, (1932), aviation pioneer
Jean Seberg, (1979), American actress
Anne Sexton, (1974), American poet
Del Shannon, (1990), American singer
Harold Shipman, (2004), British doctor, serial killer
Elizabeth Siddal, (1862), Pre-Raphaelite icon
The Singing Nun, (1985), Belgian singer
Gary Stewart, (2003), Country singer
Rory Storm, (1972), singer of the Hurricanes (the band Ringo Starr was in before he joined the Beatles), in a pact with his mother
David Strickland, (1999), actor
Sara Teasdale, (1933), American poet
Wolfe Tone, (1798), Irish independence leader
John Kennedy Toole, (1969), American novelist
Marina Tsvetaeva, (1941), Russian poetess and writer
Kurt Tucholsky, (1935), German journalist and satirist
Alan Turing, (1954), British mathematician and computer scientist
Randy Turpin, (1966), British world champion boxer
Ernst Udet, (1941), German air ace and Luftwaffe inspector general
Amy Vanderbilt, (1974), etiquette writer
Vincent van Gogh, (1890), Dutch painter
Getúlio Dornelles Vargas, (1954), president of Brazil. Killed himself during impeachment trial.
Lupe Velez, (1944), actress
Sid Vicious, (1979) bass player of the Sex Pistols, not long after killing his girlfriend
Hervé Villechaize, (1993), French actor
Otto Weininger, (1903), Austrian philosopher
Fred West, (1995), husband of convicted British killer. Killed himself whilst awaiting trial on the same crimes.
James Whale, (1957), film director
Paul Williams, (1973), singer (Temptations)
Rozz Williams, (1998), Musician, "Christian Death"
Wendy O. Williams, (1998), musician, The Plasmatics
Virginia Woolf, (1941), British novelist
Mahmoud Zuabi, (2000), Syrian prime minister shot himself on May 21, two months after resigning over corruption charges
Stefan and Lotte Zweig, (1942), Austrian novelist and his wife

Monarhija

Shang Zhou, (1046 BC), the last king of the Shang Dynasty of China
Ying Fu Su, (210 BC), brother of Ying Huhau, forced to commit suicide by a fake decree
Ying Huhai, (207 BC), the second emperor of Qin dynasty
Cleopatra VII of Egypt, (30 BC), last Ptolemaic Queen of Egypt
Nero, (68), emperor of Rome (under duress)
Otho, (69), Roman emperor
Boudicca, (1st century), Celtic chieftainess
Decebal, (106), Dacian king
Clodius Albinus, (197), Roman emperor
Gordian I, (238), Roman emperor
Quintillus, (270), Roman emperor
Maximian, (310), Roman emperor
Eugenius, (394), Roman emperor
Chongzhen, (1644), the last emperor of the Ming Dynasty of China

Ceremonijalno

Oda Nobunaga, (1582)
Akou-Roushi (47 ronins), (1703)
Yoshida Shoin, (1859)
Takechi Hanpeita, (1865)
Saigo Takamori, (1876), Japanese politician
Kimitake Hiraoka, better known as Yukio Mishima, (1970)
the Soga
Hashimoto Sanaii
Kusaka Gennai