I nema bas veze sa temom, ali nece se nadam se moderatori ljutiti, necemo previse off.   Pa znas kako, u drzavi gdje ja zivim ima elektricne energije, koja se moze prodati po inostranstvu, drzava to nije htjela, prodala privatnici a oni dalje.  Tako kad je Putin dolazio, fino covjek kupio to.  Zna i on gdje ce ulagati.  Pa ima i toga, tako je bilo i u Jugi, a ko zna dal su ljudi bili nezadovoljni, ili ova ista amerika i francuska koja opet mjesa prste i u Libiju.

Ali ajd.


A sto se tice libijske armije, ja mislim da oni dosta imaju lose naoruzanje.  Cak ako se dobro sjecam, Jugoslavija im je nekad davno poklonila neke tenkove, a da to oni sada koriste.  

Imali su osamdesetih dobrih stvari. Posle i dosao embargo a posle embarga nisu nesto mnogo ulagali u vosjku nego pojedine specijalne jedinice koje su Svabe naoruzali i obucili zbog ugovora sa RWE u vezi gasa. Al inace da imaju i novijih stvari obuka im je katastrofa. A ni taktika im bas nije na nivou.
Inace, evo stranica od Gorana Tomasevica, fotografa poreklom iz Srbije, ima jako dobrih slika:














http://blogs.reuters.com/fullfocus/2011/02/24/photographer-notebook-goran-tomasevic/#a=1

Odlicne slike...
Ono sto na njima mozemo videti jeste da su ovi obuku i vojnu taktiku gledali samo na Diskaveriju, da su svi dobro obuceni (u smislu odece  ), da svi voze dzipove, pick-upove, da nema magaraca, konja, traktora i raspalih krseva kojima civili beze...

Dobre fotke - covek rizikuje glavu

Inace, ono ubacivanje rakete u visecevni bacac - smejurija. To su valjda pobunjenici.
Dakle, u toj Libiji je haos totalni; sta ce tu jos biti...

Cini se da danas i juce pobunjenici postizu kapitalne uspehe i da se borba za Tripoli blizi. To i ne treba da nas cudi s obzirom da su vazdusni napadi ucinili snabdevanje i premestanje (o informisanju da ni ne govorim) Gadafijevaca gotovo nemogucim. Izgleda da jos jedino grupa entuzijasta sa snajperima i po kojim minobacacem drzi Misratu u shahu.


Evo svedocenja jednog lekara koji je zatecen u Bin Jawad-u:

A doctor at the hospital in Ras Lanuf, which handled most of the government soldiers wounded in the coalition air raids on Ajdabiya and the road from Benghazi, described the raids as causing hundreds of casualties, breaking morale and leaving many soldiers faking injuries to escape the assault.

The doctor – who wished to be identified only by his first name, Abdullah – had responded to a call from Gaddafi's government for medical personnel to go to the front two weeks ago.

Today, he accidentally found himself on the rebel side of the line.

"The first days, Gaddafi's forces had very high morale and they came in large numbers, thousands. There were the army soldiers and then the volunteers in the militia," he said.

"They were fighting the rebels, no problem, and winning. But then came the bombing [by coalition air strikes]. The first day we had 56 seriously wounded. To the head, the brain, lost arms and legs. Soldiers with a lot of shrapnel in them. It was like that every day after."

Abdullah said all the wounded were fighters for Gaddafi, with about two-thirds injured in the bombing of Ajdabiya where there were days of fighting as government forces blocked the rebel advance.

The doctor said he did not know how many soldiers were killed in the air strikes because the bodies were taken from the battlefield for burial.

"The soldiers who came to the hospital told me there were 150 dead just on the first day of the bombing. After that, there were fewer because they hid," he said.

"It started to have a big effect on their morale. They said they could fight the rebels but not the planes. In recent days, many of the soldiers were trying to find excuses to leave the front. Ten to 20 a day came to the hospital pretending they were injured, asking for a medical certificate. They didn't have any physical injuries, but I gave it [a certificate] to them."

Abdullah was sceptical about rebel accusations that many of those fighting for government forces were foreign mercenaries. He said he did not see any among the wounded, but added it was possible that some of the soldiers were not Libyan.

But he did say that Gaddafi's forces had systematically maltreated the civilian population, particularly those suspected of coming from the de facto rebel capital of Benghazi and other towns in the east of the country under the revolutionaries' control.

"There was bad treatment of the civilians. One patient came here who had been trying to escape Ajdabiya with his family. The government army shot him in the leg," he added.

"The idea I got from civilians who came to the hospital is that things were very bad for them. They were beaten. Some said their family members had disappeared. They didn't know if they were killed."

Some of Gaddafi's forces were billeted in the el-Adeel hotel, in Ras Lanuf, which they comprehensively looted as they fled, taking mattresses and televisions and levering open cash machines in the lobby.

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"Arapsko prolece" je u punom zamahu i  jos jedna civilizovana arapska drzava je na ivici oruzanog sukoba - 12 ubijenih u Sirijskom gradu Latakija. Predsednik ce se veceras obratiti gradjanstvu i objasniti planirane reforme.

Dobre fotke.
To sto banditi napreduju,treba uzeti sa velikom rezervom.Za sad su sve osvojili bez gotovo ikakve borbe.Jednostavno Gadafijeve snage su odlucile da bez borbe napuste pojedine gradove kako bi se spremili za odbranu onog sto se zaista moze odbraniti.

Nas covek, od prvog dana je usao u Bengazi. Ranije je bio u Egiptu 

Onaj VBR su pobunjenici kod Ras Lanufa pre desetak dana. Al inace, sta ces, nisu ljudi imali obuku a obuka u redovnoj vojsci je ionako bila katastrofa. Kad vidis ratove kod nas i ipak visi nivo obuke, opet je bilo smejurije ali dosta manje. Sa druge strane, ipak ih cenim, znaju da nemaju obuku ali opet ulecu u frku, tu im ipak dajem priznanje. 

Mnogo dobre slike. Citao sam da je Gadafi uzeo placenike ( iz Srbije, Rusije .. ), tako sam bar citao iz novina. Bas zato sto je kod nas bio rat, pa radi iskustva. Informacija tacna koliko i novine.

Mislim da je patka. Ako je ko radio na odrzavanju avijacije ili slicno ili obuci. Ne verujem da je neko otisao da se valja po pesku i docekuje bombe kad za sitnu lovu Gasha dovede pune kamione crnaca za par stotina dolara. Do sada niko nije snimio Srbina sa puskom ali gomilu crnaca.

Haha, najjaci komentar. Puni kamioni crnaca  .