ne bih se bash u potpunosti slozio . naime , nije bash tako lako proci tochkashima kroz pustinju ,a i gusenichari imaju problema na mestima gde je mekan pesak .

 veliki deo romelove kampanje 1941 i 42. se svodio na pronalazenje pogodnih puteva kroz pustinju preko kojih su mogle da napreduju mehanizovane jedinice . chuveni obilzak britanskih linija u bitci kod gazale je izveden nekim beduinskim putevima i pomocu gusenichara , a kasnije su zalihe stizale kroz probijenu britansku liniju kamionima .

Nekako još mogu tockasi kroz pustinju ali ne bas brzo, gusenicari malo bolje. Problem je u logistici, teski kamioni bas nisu za pustinju. U Iraku su se tenkovske borbe odvijale najvise po pustinji ali su putevi bili bitni zbog logistike.
Inace, zadnje vesti su da su sada uzeli profesionalci stvar u svoje ruke a one klince sa Tojotama poslai nazad. U Azdabiju ne mogu Tojote da udju vec ih salju na druga mesta a ne propustaju ni novinare.
Nesto mi mirise da su one "Madmaxovce" poslali na Sirt pa povukli da bi izvukli Gashine snage na otvoreno da se ne bi bakcali ulicnim borbama po Sirtu. Posle avijacija i profi vojnici odrade stvar kad se Tojote povuku. Inace, nadjeno je dosta tehnike prema putu za Bengazi i videli smo "Palmire", T-72 i druge stvari koje su bile neostecene, to je izgleda zavrsilo izvan ociju novinara. 
Inace, ovaj teren na karti mi se cini malo neprohodniji od onog kod Azdabije i Brege ili se varam 

CIA snajka, CIA, upropastili su pola sveta,a ne jednu Libiju.

CIA Operatives Gathering Intelligence In Libya

The CIA has sent a small, covert team into rebel-held eastern Libya while the White House debates whether to arm the opposition, NPR has confirmed.

The operatives are in Libya to gather intelligence to help direct NATO airstrikes and to help train inexperienced rebel fighters.

"The CIA team is there to train them how to shoot, how to fight, how to have military discipline," NPR's Deborah Amos reported from Cairo. "They are joining a team of former Libyan military officers who are now training about 30,000 young Libyans in the rebel stronghold to also improve discipline, improve communications and make it into a more coherent fighting force."

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/31/135005728/cia-operatives-gathering-intelligence-in-libya?sc=tw&cc=share

Nista novo. Na njihovom mestu bih i ja poslao ljude da vidim sa kim imam posla. A sto se tice neke obuke, ne vidi se bas nesto ta obucenost 
Inace, imaju dovoljno oficirskog kadra za klasicnu vojnu obuku, za to im bas nisu nuzni CIA operativci niti oni mogu da naprave za dve nedelje Ramba od nekog kuvara ili studenta istorije.
Vise sluze za koordinaciju vazdusnih udara i markiranja prijatelj/neprijatelj.   

 interesantna vest , izgleda da NATO bash i ne razlikuje pobunjenike i gadafijevce 

Libya: Coalition air strike near Brega kills rebels

At least 10 Libyan rebels are reported to have been killed when a coalition plane enforcing the no-fly zone fired on their convoy between Brega and Ajdabiya late on Friday night.

A BBC correspondent at the scene said the attack came after rebels in five vehicles fired an anti-aircraft gun into the air.

i.t.d. : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12944905

NI prvi ni poslednji primer "friendly fire". Koliko se prica, neki su pucali PAT-ovima u vazduh radi shenlucenja a ovi to bas nisu "Pirjateljski" interpretovali 

Mora da su pobunjenici pohrlili u Srbiju, a ne Makedoniju i Albaniju... ups, to je bilo kod nas, sory 

izgleda da se front polako stabilizovao . gadafijevci drze bregu , a pobunjenici su malo dalje . pobuna u misrati je izgleda ugushena , pa je ostvarena podela zemlje na dva dela :

Battle for Brega rages after ambush

The key Libyan oil town of Brega was again the theatre of heavy fighting on Sunday as rebel forces advanced only to be forced back in an ambush by forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi.

A former Libyan foreign minister and UN General Assembly president, Ali Treiki, became the latest in a string of officials to abandon the Gaddafi regime, while South African Nobel Peace Prize winner Desmond Tutu said allowing Gaddafi to escape trial could be "the lesser of two evils" if it meant saving lives.

Rebel fighters, who had entered the frontline eastern town of Brega early on Sunday, said they were staging a tactical withdrawal after being ambushed.
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An AFP correspondent saw some 300 to 400 fighters regrouping on the road back into rebel-held territory some 10km to the east.

Loud explosions could still be heard from Brega's outskirts as the rebels' best-trained fighters took on the Gaddafi loyalists.

Most of the rebel volunteers acknowledged they had neither the military training and discipline, nor the knowledge of the terrain to mount a frontal assault on Brega.

They said they were dependent on the rebels' few trained fighters, most of them defectors from the regular army.

"There is no commander. We are all together," said Abdul Wahed Aguri, a 28-year-old volunteer.

"We are not army. We can't move closer to Brega because we don't know where the enemy is. We don't the area. We have to wait for the army (defectors)," he said, adding that might take a few hours or a whole day.

Intermittent explosions rocked the desert landscape as the rebel advance guard exchanged rocket and artillery fire with Gaddafi forces inside the town.

Aircraft from the NATO-led coalition enforcing a no-fly zone were heard overhead. The rebels said they heard air strikes on loyalist positions in the town overnight although there was no immediate confirmation from the alliance.

Earlier in the day, the rebels had pushed forward to seize the vast university campus on Brega's outskirts, an AFP correspondent witnessed before the retreat.

The town has been the scene of intense exchanges for several days with both sides advancing only to pull back under fire.

On Saturday, the rebels had claimed to have recaptured Brega, 800km east of the capital Tripoli, but pro-Gaddafi snipers were said to be still active and others were apparently holed up in the university.

A rebel spokesman in Libya's third biggest city Misrata, 210km east of the capital, also reported fierce fighting on Saturday.

Treiki, the latest in a string of officials to abandon the Gaddafi regime, met Arab League chief Amr Mussa for talks in Cairo.

Treiki resigned his official duties as an adviser to Gaddafi but did not pledge allegiance to the rebels fighting to overthrow the Libyan regime, Arab League sources said.

He is the second high profile official to resign this week, after the defection of foreign minister and Gaddafi regime stalwart Mussa Kussa, who landed in Britain.

Former Archbishop Desmond Tutu, a leading figure in the fight against South Africa's white-minority regime who won the Nobel Prize for his stand against apartheid, told the BBC: "You keep having to balance what is a lesser evil.

"It's quite clear in the best of worlds it would be a good thing for us to say you clobber him, capture him and let him stand for trial.

"But we know that doesn't usually happen in the world in which we inhabit."

He added that "the lesser of two evils" could be to let Gaddafi "have a soft landing and save the lives of as many people as you possibly can."

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/battle-for-brega-rages-after-ambush-20110403-1ctek.html

NATO strikes on Libya echo Serbia conflict

BELGRADE, Serbia — NATO war planes hit tanks with deadly precision, with the aim of degrading a despot’s army and leveling the playing field for a ragtag rebel force. In many ways, the air strikes on Libya mirror the Western alliance’s Serbia campaign 12 years ago.

Both conflicts targeted easily identifiable villains — Moammar Gadhafi today, Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic back then. On both occasions, NATO scrambled its war planes after both leaders ignored international warnings to cease bloody crackdowns against opponents — Kosovo Albanians then, Libyan citizens now.

The parallels extend into how the campaigns have developed. Like over Serbia, the Libya no-fly zone has turned in effect into NATO air cover designed to benefit the insurgents by destroying Gadhafi’s armor that has given him battlefield superiority.

There are differences in timing, planning and international support. Unlike the air campaign against Serbia, the Libyan operation was organized relatively quickly and its aims, if not its means, are backed not only by NATO but also by the U.N. Security Council, the Arab League and nations outside the Western alliance.

But “in a military sense, these are very similar operations,” says Serbian military analyst Sasa Radic.

Even the battlefield tactics used by both leaders evoke comparisons in seeking to protect their heavy weapons from being picked off by targeted air strikes.

Gadhafi’s forces are now using “battle wagons” — minivans and SUVs fitted with weapons that are harder to distinguish from vehicles used by the rebels. Milosevic, too, pulled most of his battle tanks out of combat in favor of lighter forces, parking them in hospitals, schools and other areas where a strike risked civilian casualties.

The success of his tactics became obvious when a mighty column of Serbian armor was seen withdrawing from Kosovo at the end of the campaign. NATO ground troops that moved in on their heels counted only 14 destroyed tank hulks in all of the province after 78 days of air attacks.

No evidence has surfaced about whether Gadhafi loyalists have taken a page from the book of Serbian tactics — but there could be a link. Before Yugoslavia broke up in the series of ethnic wars that culminated in the Serb-Albanian conflict in Kosovo, many of Gadhafi’s officers were trained by the Serb-dominated Yugoslav armed forces.

For all the battlefield similarities, there is one major difference in the two campaigns, however. For Kosovo, there was an endgame. Not so for Libya.

Once the allied coalition jelled 12 years ago, there was agreement that Milosevic’s hand had to be lifted forever from Kosovo. NATO-dominated forces moved into the province in June. Kosovo declared independence in 2008 with the support of the U.S. and most EU countries.

In the case of Libya, Washington and its allies have said the air campaign was not launched to eliminate Gadhafi. And they have not set an ultimate target beyond the immediate imperative of reducing the chances of large-scale retaliation on Gadhafi foes by driving the dictator’s jets from the air and destroying his military hardware on the ground.

That effort is now mired in a combination of bad weather grounding NATO planes and evasive tactics by Gadhafi forces, with the rebels retreating this week under the pressure of a renewed eastern offensive by Gadhafi’s better-armed and better-trained ground troops. U.S. plans to pull out of the air campaign and bank on other NATO nations taking up the slack could further hurt the rebels.

Any resulting gains by Gadhafi forces could mean that ultimately the divisive issue of sending in ground forces may have to be addressed. Washington has ruled out that option, but it was such a threat that ultimately forced Milosevic to cede Kosovo.

And while friend and foe were clearly defined in Serbia, questions about who the rebels are have escalated as the U.S.-led coalition approaches its third week of attacks against Gadhafi’s forces.

Under questioning by Congress, NATO’s top commander, U.S. Navy Adm. James Stavridis, said last week that officials had seen “flickers” of possible al-Qaida and Hezbollah involvement with the rebel forces. And he acknowledged goals and operations remain fluid.

“As you look at the spectrum of how this unfolds it’s premature to say what is our exit strategy,” Stavridis said Tuesday.

Radic, the Serbian military analyst, says the lack of direction sets the stage for a potentially violent scenario.

“It is not clear what the final goal is — getting rid of Gadhafi, or the partition of Libya?” he says. “The radical option would be to help rebels get to Tripoli to confront Gadhafi.

http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2011/04/ap-nato-strikes-on-libya-echo-serbia-conflict-040211/

a gospodin radic se opet pokazao kao poslednje govno , ponavljajuci propagandu kako je eto milosevic krio vojsku po bolnicama i shkolama , pa ih je zato NATO gadjao ...