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'Gadafi ponovo kontroliše grad Zaviju'



Libijski lider Muamer Gadafi poručio je da će njegovi sunarodnici uzeti oružje u ruke i suprotstaviti se zapadnim silama ukoliko pokušaju da nametnu zonu zabranjenog letenja iznad zemlje.

On je time reagovao na izjave američkih i britanskih zvaničnika koji su potvrdili da je uvodjenje zabrane letenja iznad Libije jedna od mogućnosti o kojima se razmišlja kako bi se Gadafi sprečio da napada opozicione snage u delovima zemlje nad kojima je izgubio kontrolu.

U razgovoru za tursku državnu televiziju, libijski lider je rekao da bi takav korak zapada pomogao njegovoj zemlji, jer bi, kako je naglasio, "narod video istinu, da oni žele da uspostave kontrolu nad Libijom i da pokradu njenu naftu".

Još jednom je ponovio da su za nasilje u njegovoj zemljii odgovorne snage iz inostranstva i Al Kaida.

Takodje je negirao da njegove snage napadaju gradove u kojima je njegov režim zbačen i vlast su preuzele opozicione grupe.

"Grad pretvoren u pepeo"

Medjutim libijska državna televizija istovremeno izveštava da su jedinice lojalne Gadafiju ponovo uspostavile kontrolu nad gradom Zavijom koji se nalazi na oko 50 kilometara zapadno od Tripolija

Očevici kažu da je grad bio izložen napadima artiljerije, i da se na centralnom trgu nalaze tenkovi, a da je bolnica prepuna povredjenih.

Izvori u Zaviji juče su telefonom BBC-jevim novinarima rekli da je grad maltene pretvoren u pepeo posle napada iz vazduha.

Danas su komunikacije potpuno prekinute a novinarima nije dozvoljen pristup tom gradu.

Jedan od BBCjevih izveštača iz Tripolija kaže da pukovnik Gadafi pokazuje sve veće samopouzdanje, budući da njegove snage demonstriraju nadmoć nad slabo opremljenim i loše organizovanim snagama opozicije.


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НАТО пилоти враћени кући због пијанства

Два пилота која учествују у НАТО кампањи против снага Моамера Гадафија у Либији послати су кући због "инцидента у вези са алкохолом", културно је објаснила британска војска, а преносе београдски медији.
Како је пренео ББЦ, њих двојица су дисциплински кажњени крајем марта после ноћног изласка у градић који се налази у близини њихове базе Ђоја дел Коле на југу Италије, коју британски борбени авиони користе за нападе на либијске мете, преноси АП.

Један британски војни портпарол који није желео да буде именован потврдио је да је извештај ББЦ-ја тачан и да су се два пилота "неприкладно понашала", али да ипак нису компромитовала мисију британских ваздушних снага.   Smile

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Russia says it wants to see Gaddafi ousted, but only through a political transition and not a “manhunt”, Russia’s ambassador to France said on Wednesday. “Russia does not want Gaddafi to stay in power,” Orlov said. “He has committed crimes and must take responsibility for those, but in the political transition process, we want all parties to take part,” he said.
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Pentagon: SAD bombama snabdevaju saveznike

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VAŠINGTON - Američka vojska snabdeva bombama i rezervnim delovima saveznike koji učestvuju u napadima, predvođenim NATO, protiv libijskog režima, saopštio je Pentagon.

"Pružamo materijalnu podršku, uključujući i municiju, saveznicima i partnerima koji učestvuju u operacijama u Libiji" od 1. aprila, izjavio je sinoć portparol Pentagona Dejv Lapan.

Ovo je prvi put da je Pentagon javno potvrdio da municijom snabdeva NATO saveznike, pošto je objavljeno da se nekim zemljama smanjuju zelihe preciznih bombi ili delova, navela je agencija AFP.

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RIM - Italijanski premijer Silvio Berluskoni izjavio je danas da u napadu NATO snaga na Tripoli 30. aprila nije ubijen Gadafijev sin Saif al Arab, kako su saopštile libijske vlasti.

Berluskoni je kazao da izveštaj o smrti Saifa (29), koji je tada saopštio portparol libijske vlade, predstavlja propagandu.

"To je sve propaganda. U stvari, najmlađi sin Gadafija nije u Libiji. On živi u drugoj zemlji, a i priča o pogibiji tri unučeta (libijskog lidera) takođe je neosnovana", rekao je Berluskoni tokom televizijske emisije koja će tek biti emitovana, a u čije delove je imala uvid italijanska agencija Ansa.

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Lavrov meets Libyan opposition and Palestinian partners

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­Later on Monday, Lavrov met with the Libyan opposition to talk preconditions for a ceasefire and negotiations between the government in Tripoli and rebel authorities in Benghazi.

“The Libyan opposition and Russia have an understanding regarding the recognition of the opposition government in Benghazi.” Abdel Rahman Shalgham, a spokesman for the Libyan Transitional National Council told journalists after Monday’s meeting. 

At the same time, Shalgham stressed that rebel authorities are not going to discuss the possibility of Muammar Gaddafi staying in power, “This person has ruled for 42 years. It’s no longer possible,” RIA Novosti quotes him as saying.

Shalgham  supported NATO operations in Libya and wants the alliance to carry on, stressing the troops are in Libya not on their own initiative.

“This is not NATO’s decision, but the decision of the UN and its Security Council. It was a decision aimed at defending the civilian population,” Interfax news agency reports him as saying.

Previously the meeting was supposed to take place last Wednesday, but Lavrov said it was put off at the request of the Libyan opposition.

Last week Lavrov also met representatives of the Libyan government and UN special envoy to Libya Abdelilah al-Khatib.

During the meeting in Moscow, representatives from Tripoli made it clear that they are ready to adhere to all UN resolutions and to consider a ceasefire, provided rebels lay down their arms and NATO stops its shelling.

Moscow has been saying it does not want to be a mediator in the conflict as this is an internal matter for Libya. It is just trying to help both sides, trying to find a way to move forward towards the ceasefire in order for peace finally to be established after months of violence in the country. Moscow urged the Libyan government to co-operate with the United Nations in the deliveries of humanitarian aid.
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HSBC and Goldman Sachs held $335m of Libyan state oil money

izvornik : "Global Witness" , 26.maj (autor : BBC Business Editor Robert Peston )
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(NAPOMENA : na kraju teksta je dokument krcat grafikonima, Libyan Investment Authority , iz juna 2010 , PDF-format)

London and Washington DC: HSBC and Goldman Sachs are among the key western bankers for Colonel Gaddafi’s regime, a 2010 document leaked to Global Witness appears to show. The document details the whereabouts of state oil revenues.  However the Libyan people could not know where it was invested or how much it was, because banks have no obligation to disclose state assets they hold. Global Witness is now calling for new laws requiring banks and investment funds to disclose all state funds that they manage.

Global Witness asked both banks to confirm that they held funds for the state-owned Libyan Investment Authority, and whether they still hold them. They both refused, with HSBC citing client confidentiality. Numerous other banks and financial firms are listed including Societe Generale, UniCredit and the Arab Banking Corporation.

“It is completely absurd that banks like HSBC and Goldman Sachs can hide behind customer confidentiality in a case like this. These are state accounts, so the customer is effectively the Libyan people and these banks are withholding vital information from them,” said Charmian Gooch, director of Global Witness.

The Gaddafi family has significant personal control over the state funds invested in the Libyan Investment Authority. According to the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, “Gaddafi makes no distinction between his personal assets and the resources of the country.”

On this basis, it is essential for banking regulators to investigate whether these banks have done enough to ensure that state funds have not been diverted to the Gaddafi family’s personal benefit.

Global Witness has been leaked a draft presentation that appears to show the investment position for the Libyan Investment Authority (LIA) as of 30 June 2010, which stood at $53 billion. The information shows the diversity of Libyan assets held by major financial institutions:
HSBC holds $292.69 million across ten accounts and Goldman Sachs has $43 million in three accounts. The funds are in U.S. dollars, British pounds, Swiss Francs, Euros and Canadian dollars.
A much larger portion of the LIA’s deposits – $19 billion – are held in Libyan and Middle Eastern banks, including the Central Bank of Libya, the Arab Banking Corporation and the British Arab Commercial Bank.
Almost $4 billion of the LIA’s funds are held in structured products with banks, hedge funds and private firms such as Societe Generale ($1 billion), JP Morgan ($171 million) and OCH-ZIFF ($329 million). 
The LIA owns billions of dollars of shares in household name companies such as General Electric, BP, Vivendi and Deutsche Telekom.

Global Witness believes there are two actions required from governments, beyond the sanctions that have already been imposed.

The first is that banks and investment houses must be required by law to disclose state funds that they manage. This would cost nothing and would allow citizens to see that state revenue is not being stolen by corrupt leaders. This fits a growing international norm on transparency of national assets.  Oil and mining companies are now required, as a condition of listing on the New York Stock Exchange, to disclose payments they make to governments, allowing people of natural-resource rich states to know what their government is earning.

The second is that banking regulators must do a thorough investigation to ensure that banks holding Libya’s state funds have done appropriate checks – known as due diligence – to prevent transfers from state funds to accounts personally controlled by Gaddafi and his cronies.

“We are calling on others with additional information to go public on Libya’s other assets too or to tell us where to find them. It’s the money of the Libyan people and they deserve to know where it is,” said Ms. Gooch.   

HSBC said that it had strong anti-money laundering and anti-corruption procedures in place across all of its businesses.

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1.HSBC’s U.S. division is currently under investigation for possible violations of anti-money laundering rules. Media reports have suggested that HSBC may be fined up to $1billion for not doing enough to curb the flow of dirty money.

2.In a dictatorship where one individual, or a small cabal, exercises almost complete power over the state, there is a very thin dividing line between state and personal investments. Funds may look like they belong to the state but are actually under the effective personal control of a ruler who has captured the state.

3.In the report  Undue Diligence we revealed how $3 billion of Turkmenistan’s gas income was at Deutsche Bank in Frankfurt under the effective personal control of then-president Niyazov. Deutsche Bank and the German regulator, BaFin, brushed off our concerns saying these were ‘state accounts’. However we had been told by a former chairman of the Central Bank that this money was treated by Niyazov as his ‘personal pocket money’.

4.Global Witness is also calling for:
national registries that list the ultimate owner or controller of companies and trusts. Corrupt politicians hide their identity, and therefore their assets, behind complex webs of front companies and legal structures. This can make it very difficult for banks, or law enforcement, to find out who actually controls assets. 
if a bank cannot get its senior politician customers to explain their wealth, then it should turn down the money. Senior officials should be able to explain how their assets were earned legitimately, especially if there is a significant difference between their official salary and their actual wealth. If they cannot explain there should be a presumption that that their funds are the proceeds of corruption. This concept of “illicit enrichment” is already recognised in international treaties such as the United Nations and the Inter American conventions against corruption.

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