Apaci nisu uopste smjeli da djeluju na Kosovu,zato sto bi bili prelaka meta.Oni mogu da djeluju na brisanom prostoru kao sto je pustinja kada imaju sve na dlanu,ali kada je teren brdovit sa gustim rastinjem i pored svih senzora postoji velika opasnost od prenosivih pv sistema.

Interesantna tema.Nema sta...

@Herros

Slazem se sa tobom!

Cinjenica je da je Iran jako bogata zemlja.Sankcije koje trpi nisu kao nase.Vec od strane USA i Izraela,kao sto je vec neko rekao!
Poredeti nas sukob sa NATO-om i eventualni sukob Irana i Izraela,je suludo.Izraelska avijacija,nije ni priblizno jaka kao ona sa kojom smo se mi borili 99',stanje Iranske avijacije je mnooogoooo bolje nego nase iste godine,Iranski PVO  je neuporedivo bolji i moderniji od naseg.
Neko je pomenuo konjicu SAD-a.Msm da je to cista glupost.SAD bi se tesko opravdale,mada me nista ne bi zacudilo.Vadili bi se da pretnje Irana nuklearnim naoruzanjem,sto bi,po mom misljenju tesko proslo u njihovoj javnosti,postu su im se smucile price o Jugoslaviji,Iraku,Afganistanu,itd...

Za onog ko je lupio da je Iran pustinjska zemlja:

Ирану превладава планински рељеф, посебно у западном делу у којем живи већина становништва (планински ланци Загрос и Алборз (Елбурс) са највишом тачком Ирана, 5671 m високим Дамавандом). Уз Персијски залив рељеф је низијски, а на истоку преовладавају слабо насељене равне пустиње са повременим сланим језерима.

(pogledaj malo wikipediu :[115]

Israeli Air Force(lovacka avijacija):



F-15A "Baz"  -  20
F-15B "Baz"  -  6
F-15C "Baz"  -  17
F-15D "Baz"  -  6


F-15E Strike Eagle  -  25


F-16 Fighting Falcon:

F-16A "Netz"  -  58
F-16B "Netz"  -  14
F-16C "Barak"  -  78
F-16D "Barak"  -  48
F-16I "Sufa"  -  101

Iliti ukupno 373 aparata,ako ja to dobro sabrah(bez digitrona )
Pitanje je sta je od toga "spremno za akciju",moraju i oni imati neki "pokvaren"!
Ova brojka je mnoogooo manja od one sa kojom smo mi ratovali 99'!

 

sasa92
Svaka cast za pojasnjenje reljefa zemlje u Iranu. .Meni je bilo glupo da se raspravljam sa nekim o takvim stvarima,koje znaju i deca u osnovnoj skoli.
Najveci problem Irana lezi u cinjenici da nema prave saveznike.Tesko da bi i Sirija usla u otvoreni sukob sa Izrelom u slucaju sukoba.Avijacija realno gledano nemoze da zaustavi Amere i njihove poltrone,ali je zato PVO sistem dosta dobar.Najveci problem kod odbrane nuklearnih postrojenje predstavlja njihova staticnost.Jednostavno u danasnje vreme svi objekti koji nisu mobilni imaju male sanse da prezive u otvorenom sukobu,gde neprijatelj kontrolise vazdusni prostor.

sasa92

Nisam mislio na pustinja kao sto je Sahara *-***, nego da nema vegetaciju, pogledaj malo kakva vegetacije se nalazi u Srbiji a pogledaj kakva je tamo, covece nemas gde da sakrijes tenkove, topove, bukvalno moras jedino pod zemlju.

Jedino kod Kaspijskog mora imaju gustu vegetaciju.

Samo mi objasni kako ti mislis da sakrijes vozilo koje isijava neverovatnu toplotu izmedju 2 drveta?  nemoj da raspravljas kad nemas pojma....


aljosa7

Pazi ne govorim da su apaci mogli delovati na prostoru srbije, nego govorim sta su nasi generali i ostali govorili za njih, on kad se nalazi gore vidi kao na dlanu, ne mozes mu pobeci...
Ne moram se ja pozivati na njih, dovoljno je otici na youtube i videti sta rade...



ujkaalbert

S-300 nece dobiti to su rusi potvrdili, i nemojte vise smarati sa tim.

One pracke tipa prage i getling nemoj slucajno da spomnjies da moze oboriti neki avion.

I cime ce se braniti Tor-1, to je za srednji domet, tesko da ce oboriti to nesto sem krstarecih raketa i naranvo oborice avion koji bude nisko leteo ali tesko da ce to raditi...

To je sto se tice novog narouzanja....

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http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58508
Ovde mozete videti u kakvom se stanju nalaze israelnski avioni....

A sto se americke avijacije tice to necu da spominjem jer je jasno i malom detetu u kvakvoj su oni poziciji naspram irana...

@thug_life
Slusaj breeeee...Nemoj ti mene da nazivas ****.*********************Na forumu si,pa pripazi na racnik.Nisi ti popio svu pamet ovog sveta!!!

Vracam se na temu:
Ne razumem sta zelis da pokazes ovim linkom!?!
Ima i nasa avijacija takve slike,mozda i bolje.Ako bi gledali po slikama,onda bi nasa avijacija bila najmocni9ja na svetu sa 4 MiG-29,i nesto malo 21-ceva!

Tu se slazemo.I ja msm da ih nece dobiti.

To je jako zastarelo,i od toga nema nista.Niti ce Iracani to koristiti,niti ce Izraelski avioni leteti nisko!Nemaju razlog!!

Slazem se.Sto se toga tice,msm da se svi slazu!


Koji argument!Auuuu...Supalj kao rupa bez dna!

Evo malo da se upoznamo sa kakvim PVO sistemima raspolazu.

Sayyad-1

On 14 April 1999 the Iranian armed forces carried out a successful test of a surface-to-air missile. A spokesman of the Iranian Ministry of Defense reported "the missile was able to hit its target at an appropriate altitude." This missile was designated Sayyad-1, named for assassinated commander Lt-Gen. Ali Sayyad-Shirazi.

Tehran's Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran broadcast, "...With the manufacture of this modern surface-to-air missile by the Iranian designers and specialists at the Aerospace Industries Organization affiliated to the Defense and Armed Forces Logistics Ministry of the Islamic Republic of Iran, another step has been taken to reinforce Iran's defense might....Iran's defense might is in fact a speed bump on the way of the aggressive and expansionist policies of the Zionist regime, and the test-firing of the Sayyad-1 surface-to-air missile is a display of the will and might of the armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran to stand firm against the true enemies of Islam and the Islamic Republic of Iran."

Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics spokesman Keyvan Khosrawi said that the missile was produced completely by the Airspace Industries Organization, affiliated to the Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics. Iranian defense ministry officials acknowledged that the Sayyad-1 missile was an SA-2 of Chinese design, but was at least partially manufactured in Iran. Chinese Aviation Industry Minister Zha Yuli was on an official visit to the strategic Iranian town of Qeshm in Bushehr province at the time the missile is test-fired. Chinese ambassador to Iran, Wang Shijie, accompanied him on the trip.

Another report suggested that the Sayyad-1 medium to long range air defense missile was developed using elements of technologies of the Hawk and Standard missiles. Having upgraded the missile's warhead, the Iranians increased its firing range to 45-50 kilometers.

In November 1999 Iran's Revolutionary Guards held air defense exercises in central Iran. The exercises, in a desert near Qom, ended on November 10 with "final testing
" of Sayyad-1 anti-aircraft missile. "The latest anti-aircraft technology will be deployed. The purpose of the exercises is to procure defensive readiness," General Hossein Khaleqi said.

Minister of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics Vice-Admiral Ali Shamkhani told state television on 23 August 2000 that he would open 23 industrial, research, manufacturing, and services projects during Government Week. Soon to be inaugurated, Shamkhani said, were the Saeqeh and Sayyad-1 air defense missiles.

sasa92

Druze malo se razumes a i pre sam se zainteresovao za sve to od tebe, necu vise da se raspravljam sa tobom jer se ne razumes.

Na ovo sam mislio, nisi ti debil ti si retardiran....

thug_life i sasa92

Bez svadja i vredjanja 

3.1. Zabranjeno je vređanje i provociranje sagovornika
Na Burek forumu je izričito zabranjeno vređanje i provociranje sagovornika.  Član koji uvredom odgovori na uvredu biće, takođe, kažnjen u skladu sa Pravilnikom.

Samo opusteno.

Russia 'will' deliver S-300 to Iran in 2 months


Russia has ensured that it will honor a deal providing Iran with the S-300 sophisticated anti-aircraft system, Tehran's envoy to Moscow says.

Mohammad-Reza Sajjadi on Friday rejected reports that Russia had pulled out of the deal due to a delay in the delivery of the system to Iran.

"We had heard reports that Russia would not deliver these systems to Iran, but we asked the Russian side and they denied it," he told reporters in Moscow.

"The delivery deadline has already passed, but the Russian side has cited technical problems which it said it was working on to fix," Sajjadi added. "We feel that this question will be resolved within one to two months."

He said neither Iran nor Russia planed to "go back" on the contract, which he said was "profitable" for both sides.

Russia's procrastination over the delivery of the advanced system to Iran has drawn harsh criticism from officials in Tehran.

Earlier this month, Chief of Staff of Iran's Joint Armed Forces Hassan Firouzabadi questioned Moscow's motivation for the delay. He said under a contract signed between the two countries, the Russian government was expected to supply Iran with the system aimed at boosting the country's defensive capabilities.

"The delivery is more than six months overdue," the top official said, urging Russia to expedite the process of delivery.

Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi also said that Russia had a "contractual obligation" to provide Iran with the system.

"We have made a deal with the Kremlin to buy S-300 defense missiles," he said, referring to a contract signed between Tehran and Moscow in 2007.

"We don't think Russian officials would want to be seen in the world as contract violators," he added.

Iran has been trying to obtain the sophisticated defense system to improve it's deterrence power in reaction to Israeli war rhetoric.

According to Western experts, the S-300 missile defense system would shield Iranian nuclear sites against any Israeli airstrike.

The S-300 system, which can track targets and fire at aircraft 120 km (75 miles) away, features high jamming immunity and is able to simultaneously engage up to 100 targets.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=112314&sectionid=351020101

VI se i dalje lepite za PVO?Ja vam kazem ako Izrael sam ode u avanturu sa sopstvenom avijacijom, nece imati na sta da slete.Ako Ameri pridju sa nosacem bice meta, sve baze u okolini bice mete takodje....nisu oni za zajebavanje.