Prema navodima bivseg strucnjaka NASA-e, Otto Bindera, VHF radio prijem koji je zaobisao siguronosni sistem NASA uhvatio je sledecu komunikaciju:

NASA: Sta vidite?
Apollo 11: Ove "bebe" su ogromne. Neverovatno velike! O, Boze! Ne biste verovali! Kazem vam, ovde je jos
jedan svemirski brod na drugom kraju kratera! Oni su na Mesecu i posmatraju nas!

Na simpozijumu NASA-e, Armstrong je tvrdio da su bili " upozoreni da se ne vracaju. Ne mogu ici u detalje, ali
njihovi brodovi su daleko superiorniji u odnosu na nase u pogledu velicine i tehnologije."

Tokom boravka na Mesecu Armstrong je opisao dve letelice koje je video. Te izjave javnos nije cula zbog cenzure NASA-e.

Medjutim, to nije sve. Kao za inat, Nil Armstrong je nekoliko godina nakon leta na Mesec izjavio:
"Vanzemaljci imaju bazu na Mesecu i neuvijeno su nam rekli da se gubimo i drzimo podalje od Meseca".

Aldrin je snimio kolor film iz Apolla, ali je po dolasku na Zemlju preuzet od CIA-e.

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Da prevodim sada nisam u mogucnosti. Ionako jedva nadjoh po kompu. 

Neil Armstrong saw more than just the Moon!

On July 21, 1969, a NASA astronaut named Neil Armstrong became the first person in history to walk across the moon. "The eagle has landed," he declared. What he would say later wasn't broadcast by NASA, but was picked up and heard by radio hams with their own VHF receivers. "NASA: What's there? "The aliens have a base on the moon," said Armstrong. "These babies are huge, sir, enormous. Oh my God, you wouldn't believe it. I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there. Lined up on the far side of the crater, they're on the moon watching us. In the meantime, Buzz, Aldrin aboard Apollo 11 had his movie camera out and was shooting color movies of the aliens. These movies would later be confiscated from Aldrin by the CIA.

On all of the missions that NASA  flew, the astronauts saw UFO's. They referred to them as Santa Claus. Sometimes the UFO's would follow, sometimes they would fly a few circles around the space capsule, and sometimes they'd be waiting as the rocket was about to make its lunar injection. During a NASA symposium a professor who wishes to remain anonymous questioned Neil Armstrong after the Apollo 11 flight:

Professor: What really happened out there with Apollo 11?

Armstrong: It was incredible of course. We had always known there was a possibility. The fact is we were warned off (by the aliens). There was never a question then of a space station, or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?

Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology. Boy! they were big and menacing.

So, that's what the first man on the moon had to say.

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Alien Presence on the Moon?-Moon Anomalies

Is there an "Alien Base" on the Moon? More and more people are coming forward with stories that might prove this is true. Rumors say that there is an Alien Moon Base on the far side of the moon, the side we never see from Earth.

Did you ever wonder why the Moon landings stopped and why we have not tried to build a Moon Base? It does seem like a better and easier idea than a floating space station with no access to any raw materials or supplies? According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon!

Sound far fetched? Milton Cooper, a Naval Intelligence Officer tells us that not only does the Alien Moon Base exist but the U.S. Naval Intelligence Community refers to the Alien Moon Base as "Luna," that there is a huge mining operation going on there, and that is where the aliens keep their huge mother ships while the trips to Earth are made in smaller "flying saucers".

LUNA: The Alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and filmed by the Apollo astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the very large alien craft described in sighting reports as mother ships exist there. -Milton Cooper

Did Apollo 11 Encounter UFOs on the Moon? from the Book "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good.

Buzz AldrinAccording to hitherto unconfirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after their historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a carter during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard.

According to a former NASA employee Otto Binder, unnamed radio hams with their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets picked up the following exchange:

NASA: What's there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11...

Apollo: These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous! OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there, lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They're on the Moon watching us!

Maurice Chatelain In 1979, Maurice Chatelain, former chief of NASA Communications Systems confirmed that Armstrong had indeed reported seeing two UFOs on the rim of a crater. "The encounter was common knowledge in NASA," he revealed, "but nobody has talked about it until now."

Soviet scientists were allegedly the first to confirm the incident. "According to our information, the encounter was reported immediately after the landing of the module," said Dr. Vladimir Azhazha, a physicist and Professor of Mathematics at Moscow University. "Neil Armstrong relayed the message to Mission Control that two large, mysterious objects were watching them after having landed near the moon module. But his message was never heard by the public-because NASA censored it. "

According to another Soviet scientist, Dr. Aleksandr Kazantsev, Buzz Aldrin took color movie film of the UFOs from inside the module, and continued filming them after he and Armstrong went outside. Dr. Azhazha claims that the UFOs departed minutes after the astronauts came out on to the lunar surface.

Maurice Chatelain also confirmed that Apollo 11's radio transmissions were interrupted on several occasions in order to hide the news from the public. Before dismissing Chatelain's sensational claims, it is worth noting his impressive background in the aerospace industry and space program. His first job after moving from France was as an electronics engineer with Convair, specializing in telecommunications, telemetry, and radar. In 1959 he was in charge of an electromagnetic research group, developing new radar and telecommunications systems for Ryan. One of his eleven patents was an automatic flights to the Moon. Later, at North American Aviation, Chatelain was offered the job of designing and building the Apollo communications and data-processing systems.

Chatelain claims that "all Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of extraterrestrial origin-flying saucers, or UFOs, if you want to call them by that name. Every time it occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered absolute silence." He goes on to say:

"I think that Walter Schirra aboard Mercury 8 was the first of the astronauts to use the code name 'Santa Claus' to indicate the presence of flying saucers next to space capsules. However, his announcements were barely noticed by the general public.

It was a little different when James Lovell on board the Apollo 8 command module came out from behind the moon and said for everybody to hear:

'PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT THERE IS A SANTA CLAUS.'

Even though this happened on Christmas Day 1968, many people sensed a hidden meaning in those words."

Rumors persist. NASA may well be a civilian agency, but many of its programs are funded by the defense budget and most of the astronauts are subject to military security regulations. Apart from the fact that the National Security Agency screens all films and probably radio communications as well. We have the statements by Otto Binder, Dr. Garry Henderson and Maurice Chatelain that the astronauts were under strict orders not to discuss their sightings. And Gordon Cooper has testified to a United Nations committee that one of the astronauts actually witnessed a UFO on the ground. If there is no secrecy, why has this sighting not been made public?

A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.

Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?

Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known there was a possibility, the fact is, we were warned off! (by the Aliens). There was never any question then of a space station or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?

Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology - Boy, were they big!... and menacing! No, there is no question of a space station.

Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?

Armstrong: Naturally-NASA was committed at that time, and couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a quick scoop and back again.

Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the cover-up.

(thanks to BBS)

More information: Sensation: Cities Found on the Moon!

Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up unexpectedly close to us. We were not ready for it psychologically

We still can come across publications trying to find an answer to the question: Are we alone in the universe? At the same time, presence of reasonable creatures has been detected just close to our home, in the Moon. However, the discovery was immediately classified as secret, as it was so much incredible that even could shake the already existing social principles, reports Russia's newspaper "Vecherny Volgograd."

Here is an extract from the official press-release:

“NASA scientists and engineers participating in exploration of Mars and Moon reported results of their discoveries at a briefing at the Washington national press club on March 21, 1996. It was announced for the first time that man-caused structures and objects had been discovered on the Moon.” The scientists spoke rather cautiously and evasively about the functioning objects, with the exception of UFO. They always mentioned the man-caused objects as possible, and pointed out the information was still under study, and official results would be published later.

It was mentioned at the briefing as well that the Soviet Union used to own some photo materials proving presence of reasonable activity on the Moon. And although it wasn't identified what kind of reasonable activity it was, thousands of photo-and video materials photographed from the Apollos and the Clementine space station demonstrated many parts on the lunar surface where the activity and its traces were perfectly evident. The video films and photos made by U.S. astronauts during the Apollo program were demonstrated at the briefing. And people were extremely surprised why the materials hadn't been presented to the public earlier. And NASA specialists answered: “It was difficult to forecast the reaction of people to the information that some creatures had been or still were on the Moon. Besides, there were some other reasons to it, which were beyond NASA.”

Specialist for lunar artifacts Richard Hoagland says that NASA is still trying to veil photo materials before they are published in public catalogues and files, they do retouching or partially refocus them while copying. Some investigators, Hoagland is among them, suppose that an extraterrestrial race had used the Moon as a terminal station during their activity on the Earth. The suggestions are confirmed by the legends and myths invented by different nations of our planet.

Ruins of lunar cities stretched along many kilometers, huge transparent domes on massive basements, numerous tunnels and other constructions make scientists reconsider their opinions concerning the lunar problems. How the Moon appeared and principles of its revolving around the Earth still pose a great problem for scientists.

Some partially destroyed objects on the lunar surface can’t be placed among natural geological formations, as they are of complex organization and geometrical structure. In the upper part of Rima hadley, not far from the place where the Apollo-15 had landed, a construction surrounded with a tall D-shaped wall was discovered. As of now, different artifacts have been discovered in 44 regions.

The NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, the Houston Planetary Institute and specialists from the bank of space information are investigating the regions. Mysterious terrace-shaped excavations of the rock have been discovered near the Tiho crater. The concentric hexahedral excavations and the tunnel entry at the terrace side cant be results of natural geological processes; instead, they look very much like open cast mines.

A transparent dome raised above the crater edge was discovered near the crater Copernicus. The dome is unusual as it is glowing white and blue from inside. A rather unusual object, which is unusual indeed even for the Moon, was discovered in the upper part of the Factory area. A disk of about 50 meters in diameter stands on a square basement surrounded with rhombi walls. In the picture, close to the rhombi, we can also see a dark round embrasure in the ground, which resembles an entry in an underground caponier. There is a regular rectangular area between Factory and the crater Copernicus which is 300 meters wide 400 meters long.

Apollo 10 astronauts made a unique picture (AS10-32-4822) of a one-mile long object called Castle, which is hanging at the height of 14 kilometers and casts a distinct shadow on the lunar surface. The object seems to be consisting of several cylindrical units and a large conjunctive unit. Internal porous structure of the Castle is clearly seen in one of the pictures, which makes an impression that some parts of the object are transparent.

As it turned out at the briefing where many NASA scientists were present, when Richard Hoagland had requested originals of the Castle pictures for the second time, no pictures were found there at all. They disappeared even from the list of pictures made by the Apollo 10 crew. Only intermediate pictures of the object were found in the archives, which unfortunately donut depict the internal structure of the object.

When Apollo-12 crew landed on the lunar surface, they saw that the landing was observed by a half-transparent pyramidal object. It was hanging just several meters above the lunar surface and shimmered with all rainbow colors against the black sky.

In 1969, when the film about astronauts traveling to the Sea of Storms was demonstrated (the astronauts saw the strange objects once again, which were later called “striped glasses”), NASA finally understood what consequences such kind of control could bring. Astronaut Mitchell answered the question about his feelings after a successful return the following: “My neck still aches as I had to constantly turn my head around because we felt we were not alone there. We had no choice but pray.” Johnston, who worked at the Houston Space Center and studied photos and video materials done during the Apollo program, discussed the artifacts with Richard Hoagland and said, the NASA leadership was awfully annoyed with the great number of anomalous, to put it mildly, objects on the Moon. It was even said that piloted flights to the Moon could be banned in the programs network.

Investigators are especially interested in ancient structures resembling partially destroyed cities. The orbital shooting reveals an astonishingly regular geometry of square and rectangular constructions. They resemble our terrestrial cities seen from the height of 5-8 kilometers. A mission control specialist commented on the pictures: “Our guys observed ruins of the Lunar cities, transparent pyramids, domes and God knows what else, which are currently hidden deep inside the NASA safes, and felt like Robinson Crusoe when he suddenly came across prints of human bare feet on the sand of the desert island.” What do geologists and scientists say after studying the pictures of lunar cities and other anomalous objects? They say, such objects cant be natural formations. “We should admit they are artificial, especially the domes and pyramids.” Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up unexpectedly close to us. We were not ready for it psychologically, and some people hardly believe they are true even now.



Zasto sve ovo ? Zasto ako se nije imalo povoda, ako nije bilo sletanja ... ? Zasto ... ??

E baš zato!  Sam si sebi odgovorio.    

Za dobru propagandu treba i dobra priča. A ti amerikanci umeju biti baš kreativni.

Ceo tekst izgleda kao kostur za holivudski blokbaster. A samo sa jednim ciljem, da se sletanje na mesec ne bih dovelo u pitanje.

Nije tacno leta je bilo i svaki novinar koga ne mrzi da mrdne dupe moze da trazi dozvolu (i da dobije) da pregleda ogroman deo dokumentacije ako ne i sve sa ovog leta (Apola11), to je omoguceno izmedju ostalog i zbog odbacivanja ovakvih gluposti odozgore.
A i Radio amateri koji su imali mogucnosti i dovoljno jaku opremu su pratili taj let i dobijeno je vise nezavisnih potvrda da je leta bilo i da nije bilo nikakve price o vanzemaljcima.

Sta ces, i ja sam voleo Danikena kao klinac i njegove vanzemaljce, ali sve do trenutka kada vidis kako ljudi izmisljaju, spajaju nespojivo ili se lazno predstavljaju, a jedan je cak i probao da klese po unutrasnjosti piramide u Egiptu da bi je "prilagodio" svojoj teoriji...

Inace, nisu samo Ameri ucestvovali u ovakvim teorijama, vec gomila Japanaca (ona sekta sto je poubijala ljude sarinom u Tokijskom metrou je cak dolazila da gleda Tesline crteze u BeogradU), Francuza itd
Evo linka koji se odnosi na Apolo 11, i koji jasno demantuje takve stvari.

http://www.debunker.com/texts/apollo11.html

inace, Maurice Chatelain nije bio nikakav sef komunikacija NASA, vec zaposlen kod jednog njihovog podizvodjaca (neka je i inzenjer) a u vreme same misije Apolo 11 je bio uveliko bez posla te nije ni mogao da prisustvuje nekakvom razgovoru. Kasnije je objavio knjigu o Majama gde je natrabunjao sve i svasta, ali je bar zaradio pare, slicne teme su tada bile popularne.

Sami novinari su snimali citav dogadjaj do u detalj, svi astronauti su poleteli (snimljeno) i otisli u svemir a Rusi pratili sam let. Novinari su u glavnoj kontrolnoj sobi (mislim da postoji zastakljena loza) sa svim tehnicarima pratili citav let sa svim parametrima, tako niti je sta falsifikovano niti zataskano.

Uporno se sa druge strane izbegava u prici o teorijama zavere da je bilo vise misija koje su prethodile i samo kruzile oko Meseca, pa predstavljaju sletanje kao usamljen i iznenadan dogadjaj. Isto tako bilo je jos misija posle toga koje su uredno pracene, ali se one cak ni  ne osporavaju!!!!!!

Apolo program je imao svoj razvoj i stvaranje kapaciteta za let na Mesec, to bi vazilo i danas, i bez decenije razvoja novih klapaciteta i raketa, nikakav novi let nije moguc (iako bi kostao dosta manje nego prethodni, zbog napretka tehnologije).

Ne vredi Stegonosa. Mene interesuje zasto bi i Rusi iznosili one stvari ? Ali nebitno, nije o tome tema, vec je indikativno da suprotstavljena strana potvrdjuje.

Po kompu nadjoh jos nesto:

Leonov o osvajanju Meseca: Kjubrikova žena je kriva za Holivudsku režiju

Čuveni sovjetski kosmonaut priča šta je prilikom osvajanja Meseca snimljeno na licu mesta, a šta  u Holivudu



Proslavljeni ruski kosmonaut Aleksej Leonov, koji se 60-ih godina prošlog veka lično pripremao za učešće u sovjetskom programu osvajanja Meseca, demantovao je glasine koje kolaju već dugo vremena o tome da američki astronauti nisu bili na Mesecu, već da su kadrovi koji su prikazani na televizijama širom sveta tobože montirani u Holivudu.

U ponedeljak, 20. jula, obeležena je 40-godišnjica prvog spuštanja astronauta SAD Nila Armstronga i Edvina Oldrina na površinu zemljinog satelita.

Tim povodom je kosmonaut Aleksej Leonov rekao za RIA Novosti da su se Amerikanci ipak spustili na Mesec.

- Samo oni koji ni u šta ne veruju mogu ozbiljno verovati u to da Amerikanci nisu bili na Mesecu. Nažalost, cela ta priča o tobože u Holivudu isfabrikovanim kadrovima potekla je od samih Amerikanaca. Prvi čovek koji je počeo da raspreda te glasine uhapšen je i strpan u zatvor zbog klevete.

Odakle su potekle glasine?
- Sve je počelo tako što su, kada je prilikom obeležavanja 80-godišnjice čuvenog američkog filmskog reditelja Stenlija Kjubrika, koji je po knjizi pisca fantastičnih štiva Artura Klarka stvorio briljantni film Odiseja 2001. godine, novinari prilikom susreta sa Kjubrikovom suprugom zamolili je da ispriča o radu svog muža na filmu tokom studija Holivuda. I ona je pošteno saopštila da na Zemlji postoje svega dva realna mesečeve modula. Jedan je u muzeju, u kome nikad nisu snimani nikakvi kadrovi i u koji je čak zabranjen ulazak sa fotroaparatima, i drugi, koji se nalazi u Holivudu, gde je u cilju razvoja logike onog što se dešava na ekranu vršeno dosnimavanje ateriranja Amerikanaca na Mesec.

Zašto je vršeno dosnimavanje u studiju?
- Da bi gledalac mogao na filmskom platnu da vidi sled događaja od početka do kraja. Ne može se, na primer, snimiti kako Nil Armstrong realno otvara luk aparata za spuštanje na Mesec. Sa površine to prosto nije imao ko da snimi. Iz istog razloga nije se mogao snimiti iz broda ni silazak Armstronga na Mesec stepenicama. Te momente je Kjubrik zaista dosnimio u studijima Holivuda radi razvijanja logike onog što se zbiva, pa su stoga i nastale spletke o tome da je spuštanje bilo modelirano na terenu za snimanje.

Gde počinje istina, a gde se završava montaža?
- Realno snimanje počelo je kada se Armstrong, koji je prvi kročio na Mesec, počeo snalaziti i kada je postavio usmerenu antenu preko koje je vršen prenos na Zemlju. Njegov kolega Baz Oldrin tada je već izašao iz broda na površinu i počeo da snima Armstronga, a ovaj je sa svoje strane snimao njegovo kretanje po površini Meseca.

Kako to da se američka zastava, kao na vetru, zalepršala u bezvazdušnom prostoru Meseca?
- Navodi se argument da se američka zastava na Mesecu zalepršala, a nije trebalo. Zastava zaista nije trebalo da se zaleprša jer je napravljena od tkanine sa armiranom mrežom. Platno je bilo obmotano oko koplja i presvučeno folijom. Astronauti su poneli sa sobom postolje, koje su najpre pobili u mesečevo tlo, a potom u to postolje postavili koplje sa zastavom i skinuli foliju. I kada su oni skinuli tu foliju, platno zastave se u uslovima smanjene gravitacije počelo odmotavati, pa je tako, nastala u mirujućem stanju, deformacija armirane mreže stvorila utisak da se zastava leprša kao na vetru.
Priče o tome da je film snimljen na Zemlji prosto su besmislene i smešne. U SAD su postojali svi neophodni sistemi koji su pratili sam start rakete-nosača, korekciju orbite leta, kruženje kapsule za spuštanje oko Meseca i njeno „primesečenje“.

Do čega je dovela mesečeva trka dve kosmičke supersile?
- Moje je mišljenje da je to i najbolje takmičenje u kosmosu koje je čovečanstvo ikada imalo. Mesečeva trka između SSSR i SAD je dostignuće najviših dometa nauke i tehnike.
Posle leta Jurija Gagarina, predsednik SAD je u Kongresu izjavio da su Amerikanci dockan shvatili kakav se trijumf može doseći lansiranjem čoveka u kosmos, i zato su Rusi trijumfalno postali prvi. U Kenedijevoj poruci jasno je zacrtano: u narednih deset godina iskrcati čoveka na Mesec i srećno ga vratiti nazad na Zemlju.

I tako je počeo američki program?
- Bio je to veoma dobar korak velikog političara, koji je ujedinio i konsolidovao američku naciju oko postizanja tog cilja. Angažovana su ogromna sredstva za to vreme – 25 milijardi dolara – danas je to više od pedeset milijardi. Program je predviđao kruženje oko Meseca, zatim let Toma Staforda do tačke lebdenja nad površinom i izbor terena za spuštanje na Apolu-10. Lansiranje Apola-11 predviđalo je već neposredno spuštanje Nila Armstronga i Baza Oldrina na Mesec. Majkl Kolins je pri tom ostao na orbiti i čekao povratak drugova.

Ali bilo je i problema?
- Napravljeno je 18 brodova tipa Apolo za pripremu spuštanja na Mesec – kompletan program je izvrsno realizovan, osim problema sa Apolom-13. Sa inženjerskog aspekta, tamo se nije ništa naročito dogodilo, jednostavno je ispao iz stroja. Preciznije, eksplodirao jedan od gorivnih elemenata, tako da je energija oslabila i doneta je odluka da nema spuštanja na površinu, već samo kruženje oko Meseca i povratak na Zemlju.

Istorija je zapamtila samo prvo spuštanje na Mesec?
- U sećanju Amerikanaca ostali su samo prvi let oko Meseca koji je izvršio Frenk Borman, a potom i spuštanje Armstronga i Oldrina na Mesec. Nije zaboravljen ni problem sa Apolom-13. Ta dostignuća su ujedinila američku naciju i primorala svakog čoveka da se moli za svoje heroje. Poslednji let serije Apolo takođe je bio izuzetno interesantan: američki astronauti ne samo da su hodali po Mesecu već su se vozili po njegovoj površini u specijalnom mesecomobilu i pravili snimke. U suštini, bila su to vremena hladnog rata i u takvoj situaciji Amerikanci su posle uspeha Jurija Gagarina prosto bili u obavezi da dobiju mesečevu trku. SSSR je tada imao i svoj program, koji smo mi takođe realizovali. Godine 1968. on je već dve godine postojao i formirane su čak i posade naših kosmonauta za let na Mesec.

Zašto je postojala cenzura na domete čovečanstva?
- Lansiranje Amerikanaca u okviru mesečevog programa prenošeno je na televizijama širom sveta i samo dve zemlje u svetu – SSSR i komunistička Kina - nisu prenosile te istorijske kadrove svojim narodima. Ja sam i tada smatrao, a i sada, da je to bilo pogrešno. Mi smo jednostavno varali svoj narod jer let na Mesec je tekovina i dostignuće čitavog čovečanstva. Amerikanci su gledali start Gagarina, izlazak u otvoreni kosmos Leonova. I zašto onda sovjetski čovek nije mogao da vidi i spuštanje na Mesec?

Kako je tekao sovjetski mesečev program?
- Godine 1962. doneta je odluka, koju je potpisao lično Nikita Hruščov, o stvaranju kosmičkog broda za let oko Meseca pomoću raketnog nosača proton. A 1964. godine Hruščov je potpisao program o tome da SSSR 1967. godine izvrši let oko Meseca, a 1968. i spuštanje na Mesec i povratak na Zemlju. Godine 1966. već je doneta odluka o formiranju mesečevih posada. Prva etapa leta oko zemljinog satelita trebalo je da se ostvari pomoću izvođenja mesečevog modula L-1 na nosaču raketa proton, a druga – spuštanje i povratak na Zemlju - na gigantskoj raketi H-1, opremljenom motorima ukupne težine 4,5 hiljade tona, pri težini same rakete od oko dve hiljade tona. Međutim, posle četiri probna lansiranja, ta superteška raketa nije poletela kako valja, i od nje se moralo odustati.



I ne mogu vise da trazim. 

 

Nije bio na Mesecu,i tacka!

"if you believe, they put a man on the Moon, the man on the Moon...." - R.E.M.

Ajde, razumem da Ameri sumnjaju jer za njih ne postoje ni Rusi niti ostatak sveta, sto ce reci ako je njihov fudbalski tim sampion Amerike automatski je i sampion sveta, kakav crni Real Madrid ili Mancester. Za mnogo njih nikakve nezavisne potvrde nisu moguce... iako realno postoje.

Ali ostali me cude koliko su povodljivi kada postoje nezavisne potvrde o letu.

Danas je degradacija NASA otisla toliko daleko da je to smesno. Aktivniji svemirski program imaju Indijci koji imaju i aktivni razvoj raketne tehnologije, pa i Kinezi, to nikako ne znaci da nisu nikada imali rakete ili da Skajlab nikada nije napravljen ili da nisu radili na pravljenju medjunarodne svemirske stanice, naprosto danas posle decenija neulaganja i odliva kadrova vise nisu u stanju da naprave nesto epohalno sami. Medjunardone stanice ne bi bilo bez Rusa i ostalih, a za razvoj nove rakete uzeli su kao osnovu buster od Spejs Satla, jer vise nemaju kriticnu masu iskusnih ljudi ni finansije (kao sustinski najveci problem) da je naprave od nule itd.

Prekida se program povratka na Mesec,jer ce tako USA da ustedi odredjenu svotu novca,kako sam ja razumeo 700 milijardi $,koje ce da  ulozi u otvaranje novih radnih msta,posto se stopa nezaposlenosti u USA povecala na rekordnih 10%

stegonosa radi za CIA .       

A amerima je stalo do nezaposlenih onoliko % koliko su bili na mesecu.