Meksiko ne samo da je zahvato svinjski virus,vec im je i ratno vazduhoplovstvo zahvatio ozbiljan virus zaostalosti,a pre svega lovacke avijacije koja je vise nego inferiorna u odnosu na susede.

Aircraft Type     Total
Del'd    Total
Now    Role    Origin
Northrop F-5E/F Tiger    10/2    8/2    Fighter/Attack    USA
Pilatus PC-7    97    23/46    Trainer/COIN    Switzerland
Embraer EMB-145 Erieye    3    3    AEW    Brazil
Swearingen C-26B Metro    4    4    Transport/Recce.    USA
Schweizer SA 2-37A    2    2    Recce.    USA
Lockheed C-130A/K Hercules    2/4    2/4    Transport    USA
Lockheed L-100-30 Hercules    1    1    Transport    USA
IAI Arava 201    11    11    Transport/COIN    Israel
Antonov An-32B    4    4    Transport    Ukraine
Beech King Air A90/C90    1/3    1/3    Transport/Recce.    USA
Beech Super King Air 300    1    1    Transport    USA
Rockwell Turbo Commander 680    6    6    Transport    USA
Rockwell Shrike Commander 500S    20    10    Transport/Recce.    USA
Rockwell Turbo Commander 695A    1    1    VIP Transport    USA
Boeing 727    5    4    Transport    USA
Boeing 737    2    2    VIP Transport    USA
Boeing 757    1    1    VIP Transport    USA
Gulfstream III    2    2    VIP Transport    USA
Learjet 35A    2    2    VIP Transport    USA
Pilatus PC-6    4    4    Transport/Recce.    Switzerland
Cessna 182S    73    57    Recce.    USA
Cessna 206    11    8    Transport    USA
Cessna 210    11    11    Transport    USA
Beech F33C Bonanza    42    29    Training    USA
Aeromacchi SF-260EU    30    26    Training    Italy
Stearman PT-13/17    12+    11    Training    USA
Bell 205A-1    6    1    Training    USA
Bell 206B    15    15    Transport/Recce.    USA
Bell 206L-III    7    7    Transport/Recce.    USA
Bell 212    24    24    Transport/Recce.    USA
Bell 412EP    4    4    Transport    USA
MD-530F/530MG    10/12    20    Recce./COIN    USA
Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion    4    4    Transport    USA
Sikorsky S-70A    6    6    Transport    USA
Aérospatiale SA-330 Puma    2    2    VIP Transport    France
Aérospatiale SA-332 Super Puma    5    4    VIP Transport    France
Mil Mi-8T/8MTV-1    12    10    Transport    Ukraine
Mil Mi-17    24    20    Transport    Ukraine

Nastavak.

Bogami za onoliku zemlju (Meksiko je ogroman), malo je to lovaca.

Вероватно немају финансијских могућности.

Vise nego malo.Em su i veoma zastareli.
Kad se uporedi sa drugim zemljama latinske Amerike,Meksikanci su vise nego smesni.

Barem imaju solidne bespilotne letelice.

Kod njih je najveci problem ogromna korupcija u drustvu.

Vec im se bune dole na Jukatanu. Ima gerila.

Delovace malo smesno ali kada je poceo prvi svetski rat Sjedinjenim drzavama je glavni neprijatelj bio Meksiko.

Ma nisu Meksikanci za potcenjivanje. Nego mozda oni kvarno racunaju da ce Amerika da im pomogne samo ako zatraze da se spasi demokratija , pa ko vele , sto da bacamo lovu. Dosta su veliki i sa juga ne znam ko bi mogao da ih napadne. Bune im se indijanci na Jukatanu (ne znam sta je sada) to im je mozda glavna briga, a mozda jos i veca briga im je kradja i sl. Kad sam bio u Meksiko Sitiju videh na malte ne svakoj drugoj radnji kod ulaza policajac i policajka, naoruzani bar jednim automatom. Htredoh da odem da vidim najraniju "piramidu" u Meksiko Siriju (nekada zvan Tenochtitlan), ali nisu mi dali, kazu "macetom su nekom strancu otcaparili ruku zbog sata i prstena. Jeb. Gadne cetvrti, ocaj, siromastvo, bande. Kad sam ja bio tamo (ima nekih mozda 5-6 god) taj grad je imao 25 miliona stanovnika. Idi begaj! Vaznije je njima da ulazu u policiju u tom gradu nego u avione. Strasne su drustvene razlike, ali su im bar marijaci dobri. Eh, da mi je opet otici. Eto sad ih napala ta gripa, a ja sve nesto sumnjav u vestacki virus.

Ajd' da ne skrecem sa teme...

dobre stare Mi-8ice...    nema gde ih nema! 
tacno,ali ipak i @Papalu je u pravu...

Pa iskreno imaju ono što im treba, a lovačka avijaciaj im i nije potrebna, trenutno su u dobrim odnosima sa SAD, a ostatak komšiluka im i nije neka pretnja.

Nije bas da im nije potrebna.Ako bi se islo tom logikom dobrih odnosa,Kanada bi odavno ukinula vojnu avijaciju.

Hvala sto delis uspomene sa nama.
Mene su uvek fascinirale zemlje Latinske Amerike.Vole bi da ih sve obidjem,ali bez agencije i aranzmana,znaci ranac na ledja pa gde stignem.

Oni su trebali da kupe nekih 10 Su-27 ali ne znam sta bi sa tim poslom to je bilo jos 2006.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/05/09/206478/mexico-selects-sukhoi-su-27-for-strategic-surveillance.html

A 2002. su kupili od Izraela E-2C, mada ne znam u kom su stanju danas i da li lete uopste.

Doduse, ovo gore navedeno treba da pripada mornarickoj avijaciji, a i za to ima posebna flotna lista:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Navy#Fleet

Od kupovine Su-27 nije bilo nista.Jedno vreme su pregovarali sa Amerima da im prodaju polovna F-16 i 18 ali je i to propalo.

Izgleda da nemaju ozbiljnog protivnika a i u slucaju necega veceg imaju severnog komsiju 
Inace, imaju dosta ozbiljnijih problema od zastarele avijacije.

Svi ste negde u pravu, cinimi se. Meksikanci su generalno bogati imaju kintu za te stvari, pitanje je samo politickih odnosa itd. Zemlja je prebogata svime i svacime, a i jeftinom radnom snagom - sto ameri obilato koriste, ali ih isto tako zajebavaju na granicama - deportiraju itd. Ima dosta sirotinje, ali i prebogatih.

Interesantno je da se prvi avijacijski sukob odigrao u ovoj zemlji. Bilo je to za vreme revolucije Pancha Vile. I Revolucionari i tadasnja vlast (e da me ubijete koji je to njihov car bio, ili Maksimilijan ili mozda Napoleon IV, ne hvatajte me za rec, a mozda je na strani pobunjenika bio i Zapata - sramota koliko ne znam tu istoriju) unajmili su neke letace (verovatno amerikance???) koji su pucali iz revolvera jedan na drugog, leteci svojim, verovatno, Farmanima ili necim slicnim. Cak mislim da je u Meksiku za vreme iste revolucije bilo takodje i prvo bombardovanje u obrusavanju (dive bombing), ali to sam jos manje siguran. Bilo je o tome na LLL. Pilot ce znati bolje, ali koliko vidim nesto ga nema, sto znaci da je pretrpan poslom. Ako, ce se javi kad uzmogne.
 

Za ovo prvi put cujem.
Svaka cast Papalu za informacije.

Evo i prva avio bomba je isprobana u meksickoj revoluciji.

"This picture shows the first aerial bomb used in combat. Aerial bombing was used for the first time in combat by General Pershing in his Mexican Campaign to capture the Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa. This is a great picture showing how the bombs were strapped to the bottom of a biplane."

http://old-photos.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html

a evo jos i ovo:

"Americans also manned Villa's primitive air force, made up of four planes. The pilots, ex-barnstormers and every bit as colorful as their compatriots on the ground, answered to names like Mickey McQuire, Wild Bill Heath and Farnum T. Fish. It has even been claimed that the legendary Hollywood cowboy Tom Mix served with Villa's forces, though this was denied by El Paso Journalist Dale L. Walker. According to Walker, the version of Mix being a "villista" was the invention of a flack in his studio's public relations office."


pa ovo:

"In Ol' Mexico, 1914-1915
Reports On EB Flights During Revolution
by Ernest Jones
     Ernest Jones, secretary of the Early Birds, is compiling a history of the activites of American fliers in various and sundry scheduled and non-scheduled Mexican campaigns. To whet our appetite for what is to come, he sends the following tid-bits:
     "Farnum Fish, now in the lumber business in Los Angeles, was the only American pilot injured in the Mexican revolution of that period."
     "We sent him out one afternoon,' writes Lester Barlow, to the staff correspondent of Chirp, 'to make observations of Obregon's troops, with strict instructions not to fly over the troops. But all Mexicans looked alike to Fish."
     "He flew at about 500 to 600 feet and it seemed to me that every Mexican---and there were thousands of them---opened fire on him."
NEARLY LOST CONTROL
     "Fish was several miles from my point of observation, but I noticed the old Wright go into a steep banked turn and then start back for our lines. It came in on a long flat glide and as we ran up to the machine, Fish fell over in a swoon."
     "He was bleeding badly, and the machine clear back to the tail was spattered with blood. Only one bullet had struck him, but it made four holes. It started in the fleshy part of the leg, went in the back side of the thigh, out again and into the shoulder."
     He was not dangerously wounded, but after this his ambition for war apparently was satisfied, for he returned to his home in Los Angeles."
     "Of Masson, Lawrence Brown, Eugene Heth, Howard Rinehart, Floyd Smith, Gustavo Salinas, Leonard Bonney and others, more anon."
from CHIRP, SATURDAY, AUGUST 17, 1935, DETROIT MICHI.
courtesy of Steve Remington - CollectAir


i ovo:
   
FARNUM FISH IN MEXICO, 1914
from an unidentified newsclipping
Collection of Todd McVickar, 6-26-07
Fish, McGuire
Shot By Villa
     Fish, McGuire and Ken Williams had gone to Mexico in 1914 during the revolution to serve as airplane spotters for Pancho Villa's forces. They were offered wages of about $550 a month in gold.
     McGuire became involved in a dispute over pay with Villa and allegedly was shot in the back by the Mexican revolutionist. Although Fish and Williams were told the death occurred in a different manner, Fish had the misfortune of seeing the body.
     He was killed by a firing squad at the age of 19.
     Williams was more fortunate. He paid off the guards and escaped to the United States on a freight train.
     The flying done by the trio in Mexico proved one important thing. Airplanes could play an important part in warfare. Mexico was the proving ground.
 

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