Ко ти тај?

Richar Dawkins dosta često u svojim spisima tako razume postmodernizam, kad tako svatimo naše mogućnosti da su bezgranične. I da, daleko od toga nismo svemoćnici.
Ateizam i znači to da upoznamo svoje granice, dok lebdenje u nešto iracionalno, baš ego gubi granice prvenstveno. Umetnost kad deluje onda baš te naše strahove leči da postoje takve izazove koje ne možemo rešiti.(motivacijski napravi red unutra) To je delanje, al nije ne etički, jer čovek poznaje u tim pričama svoje granice, plus upoznaje i granice i sebe. zato je bitnije umetnost od Bibliju, jer bez umetnosti ne bi postojao nikakvi vrednost verama.

@Ghost


Zensko je druze. Zena osrednjih godina, kojom su se u bivsem SSSR-u bavili decenijama istrazivaci. Telekineza je u pitanju. Da bi odagnali bilo kakvu sumnju, nekom naucniku je palo na pamet da pokusa "saviti" svetlost laserskog snopa. Na zaprepascenje, uspela je. Drustvo je zabavljala u kafani, terajuci komad hleba, da seta po stolu i na kraju poskoci u njena usta.

Ево шта сам нашао:


http://www.cicap.org/new/articolo.php?id=101003

Обрати пажњу на болдовано. Експерименти нису вођени у контролисаним условима (на шта многи скептици на западу са разлогом инсистирају). Није нико био ко би могао да искључи да су коришћене мађионичарске технике (неке од њих су прилично просте, а могу да дају добре резултате), итд.

Што се тиче 'леба и ласера. Поставља се питање да ли се то десило, ево на пример нема то на википедији, нема ни на овом сајту, а мени то за ласер звучи превише добро да би се изоставило, зар не?

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Ја чекам доказе, праве доказе, до тад моје још остаје: "Праве парапсихолошке моћи нису забележене ни код једне особе."

pa ima jedna organizacija,ne znam gde se nalazi,koja daje nagradu od milion dolara,ili eura,svakome ko dokaze da ima neke paranormalne moci (npr proricanje buducnosti,pretvaranje vode u vino,telekineza itd)
i niko do sad nije kinte dobio

James Randi Educational Foundation је име организације, налазе се у САД, мислим у Флориди, а награда се зове "The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge". Награда престаје да важи 2010.

al ko proba mora platiti   ulaznicu

Vidis, mozda je stvar i u samoj stvari ko sta pise ili objavljuje. Doduse, bio je i jedan film na tv-u, pre mozda 15-20 god o njoj. Igrani film. I u tom filmu je pokazano da je radjen eksperiment laserom.
E sada sta wiki kaze, ...   jbm li ga, evo vidi ovo:

Some sceptics have claimed that Kulagina was only tested in her own apartment and in hotel rooms, but according to Pravda for example (unreliable to say the least) she was also tested by eminent Soviet scientists in controlled laboratory conditions. These scientists are quoted as more than once stating that after watching Nina in action that they had found ‘no hidden threads, magnets, or other gimmicks.’ This does not of course  prove that Kulagina did not cheat, as stated earlier we have no information on how thorough the checks were. There is, however, no direct evidence that Kulagina ever faked her abilities. Despite the lack of evidence for trickery. sceptics still believe Kulagina's abilities to be entirely fraudulent or at least greatly exaggerated by Soviet authorities, probably to be used as propaganda in their Cold-War era psychological battles with the U.S. Indeed the lack of publication of the incredible experiments with Kulagina and other Russian psychics in scientific journals has persuaded some researchers that the experiments never occurred at all, at least as described in the popular press.

But there was a down side to these experiments. Whatever Kulagina’s 'powers' were, it is said that they had always taken a lot out of her. After one set of tests with Dr. Rejdak she was totally exhausted, and had almost no pulse. Her face was pale and drained and she could hardly move her body. She had apparentl lost almost four pounds in half an hour (many Western mediums, such as American Felicia Parise, have also described this weight loss during PK); it was as if she were converting the matter of her own body into energy. According to Dr. Zverev’s report, her heart-beat was irregular, there was high blood sugar, and her endocrine system was disturbed. All this was consistent with high stress. She had also lost the sensation of taste, suffered from pains in her arms and legs, couldn’t coordinate, and felt dizzy.

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da u americi dobro znaju vladaoci da paranormalnost ne postoji, osim higth tech, od strana sovjetima, to je bilo zagonetka. No kako smo ovo izveli, pogadjate amerikanci....Ponovo je vlast u pitanju, i lepo izvedeno psihološki rat. Ligthsoft

Ziv bio Onody, lepo te je videti.