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A da li bi nas strucnjak ovdi Alex - svrstao i slovenske pagane u sektu?

Daleko od toga da sam ja strucnjak ali ideje razlicitih sistema verovanja su mi uvek bile interesantna tema.
E sad da li je to busido kodeks Samuraja ili nesto drugo nije vazno ja cu da prihvatim sve sto meni moralno odgovara i adaptiracu sve prema mojim okolnostima ukoliko mi je to potrebno ,Na kraju vazna je vera i volja,
kao i mirna savest.
Postujem izbor drugih
Ali odbijam da budem rob jednom jedinom sistemu i jer Ja sam taj koji donosi svoje odluke o svom zivotu.

Kao sto rekoh ranije Sekta je samo rec i Hriscani su od Rimljana takodje bili zvani sektasima .
Jos jednom..
Rec dolazi od latinske reci Secta -Sequi -pratiti .
-Prvo znacenje je pravac akcije ili zivotni put ,
-drugo znaci temeljni princip koda ponasanja ,
-trece specificna filozofija ili doktorina.

Biti sektas je biti lojalan vodic obozavaoc i pratioc jedne.

Dakle iz toga mozes sam da zakljucis da zbog sirine pojma sve moze tu da spada.

To bre Sale oko moje - pricas bre ko da si citao sta sam ja ovde pisao pre jedno godinu dve.  Smile
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Ako zelimo da razumemo bolje druge ljude
Zasto bi sebe lisavali znanja i upoznavanja tradicija naroda iz drugih krajeva sveta ,
covek je po prirodi radoznao i zbog toga je dogurao dovde gde je sada
a ovaj sajt je perfektan da se svi sistemi iz celog sveta lepo pretstave

Cornwall je mnogo lep i na samom Jugo-Zapadu  Britanije.
Prvi put sam bio tamo u 1999-toj da prisustvujem totalnoj pomracini Sunca i bilo je fenomenalno iskustvo.
Magija je uvek bila tradicija neposredno blisko povezana sa religijom i starim paganskim obicajima i do dan danas
poput folklora ljudi se sa njom slobodno bave bar u tom kraju.
Interesantno je kako je Hriscanstvo utopljeno u magijskim receptima kroz stihove.

For a Scald or Burn: Za opekotinu

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One brought fire and two frost;
Out fire and in frost,
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For Toothache: Za zubobolju

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Pain in the teeth? -
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Ovo je pravi Bangee Jumping

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Pocetkom 20-tog veka ritualni obredi i koriscenje zmija u crkvama za vreme sluzbe su poceli da se sire uglavnom u malim rudarskim mestima u USA,Danas ih ima u Virginiji,Teksasu,Kentakiju itd.ukupno oko 40 -tak.
Ovaj obred je nastao zbog dva citata u bibliji,ovo je slobodan prevod.

(Mark 16:17-18)
"I ovi znakovi ce da prate one koji veruju:U moje ime ce oni isterivati djavole;govorice ca novim jezicima ,rukovace zmijama;a ako popiju bilo sta smrtno to ih nece povrediti;polozice ruke na bolesne i oni ce se oporaviti.

(Luke 10:19)
Znaj,Ja ti dajem moc da se kreces izmedju zmija i skorpiona i svuda oko svih moci neprijatelja: i nista te ni na koji nacin nece moci povrediti.

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THE SNAKE HANDLERS

Snake handling was an outgrowth of the Azusa Street revival. In 1910, after reading in Mark 16:18 "they shall take up serpents… and it shall not hurt them," former bootlegger George Went Hensley, aka "Little George," took a rattlesnake box into the pulpit. He reached in and lifted out the venomous viper, showing his faith to take God at his Word. He then challenged his congregation to do the same. News spread throughout the hills of Grasshopper Valley in southeastern Tennessee. Before long, others joined in the handling of rattlers. The practice continued for ten years until one of the faithful died of a snakebite. Hensley moved to Harlan, Kentucky.

Ambrose J. Thomlinson, a travelling Bible salesman and founder of a Church of God of

Prophecy (a new Pentecostal denomination), ordained Hensley into the gospel ministry. For the next ten years Hensley preached and demonstrated snake handling. While on a preaching tour, he discovered his wife and a neighbor were having an affair. Hensley attacked his friend with a knife. Fleeing to the hills and turning his back on the faith, he rebuilt his whiskey still. A short time later, the law apprehended "Little George" and sent him to work on a chain gang. But Hensley executed a brilliant escape to Cleveland, Ohio, where he remarried and resumed preaching the Oneness Pentecostal message. Before long, he was again picking up serpents and heading back to Kentucky. Hensley’s fame spread far and wide. He married and divorced four times.

In 1928, the Church of God in Prophecy revoked Hensley’s license to preach and forbade all its members from further handling of snakes.

Snake handling did not return to Grasshopper Valley until 1943 when Raymond Hayes, one of Hensley’s converts, conducted a revival there. The outcome was the founding of Dolly Pond Church of God with Signs Following. Located on the spot of the first snake handling service, Dolly Pond Church is considered a hallowed site.

There were approximately 2,500 snake-handlers in America in the early 1940s. When deaths from snakebites became prevalent, state legislatures passed laws, which forbade the taking up of snakes in religious services. Despite the new statutes, snake handling persisted. Between 1936-1973, 35 persons died from poisonous bites, including Hensley who died on June 24, 1955 at the age of 74.

WHAT SNAKE HANDLING ENTAILS

A typical snake-handling meeting usually consists of songs of worship and preaching. The front of the church, beyond the altar, is the designated area for handling snakes. Many participants bring their own boxes containing rattlers, copperheads or cobras. The snakes are symbolic of Satan (Genesis 3:15; Luke 10:19). One demonstrates his power and authority over the enemy by picking up snakes. As the service progresses and the anointing flows, those receiving the unction open the box lids and lift the snakes high into the air. Some practitioners hold several snakes at a time, allowing them to slither and wrap themselves around their bodies. Usually the snake-handling members slip into altered states of consciousness during such episodes. Their eyes roll back and they twirl or dance in the Spirit and speak in tongues. However, not all are expected to handle snakes; only the anointed.

Besides the handling of serpents, many congregations encourage the drinking of poison during the worship service. They base their beliefs on Mark 16:18 - "And if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them." The most common substance used is strychnine.

WHAT BEING BITTEN REVEALS ABOUT THE HANDLER

When a person is bitten in a religious ceremony, it can signify one of five things:

That the person has sin in his/her life. If discovered to be the case, the faithful members shun the sinners.
That the person handled the snake without being under "the anointing" of the Holy Ghost. Since God promises no protection to the unanointed, snakes are prone to bite them.
That the person lacks the faith to handle the serpent. Handling snakes without faith is presumption.
That God is testing the handlers to see if they will deny the faith when they are bitten.
That God is a healer. One of the ways to know this is for him to heal the victim of a venomous snakebite (see Acts 28:1-5).
In each case, the embedded poisonous fangs reveal something about the handler or God.

THE CONTEMPORARY SCENE

Snake-handling churches in America probably number in the low hundreds. They are mainly located in Kentucky and Tennessee, but also have congregations in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, the Carolinas, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio and Texas. Each church is autonomous, but many people travel between churches in a fifty to sixty mile radius to share in multiple snake-handling experiences. Approximately 5,000 people actively practice ceremonial snake handling. Periodically, the masses gather for a conference, called a homecoming, to take up serpents in each service.

OTHER DOCTRINAL BELIEFS

Snake-handling churches embrace the Oneness Pentecostal doctrines, including baptism in the name of Jesus, baptism for remission of sins, the giving of the Holy Ghost subsequent to baptism, and speaking in tongues as the evidence of salvation. Additionally they call upon their members to practice holiness in dress and demeanor Women cannot wear slacks or cut their hair. Members greet each other of the same sex with a "holy kiss." They rarely go to doctors or take medicine.

CONCLUSION

Taking up serpents is not a sign of spirituality. Indian snake charmers have been around for hundreds of years. They are masters of handling poisonous snakes. The ability is intuitive or a skill, and has nothing to do with "the anointing."

Snake-handling churches constitute a narrow branch of Oneness Pentecostalism. The movement is predominantly a rural one. The potential for the movement to grow beyond a few hundred churches is small. Remove snake handling from these churches and the only thing left is a lower middle class version of the United Pentecostal Church.

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U poslednjih godinu dana cest sam svedok price o nekoj novoj religiji (sekti), ciji se broj clanova svakodnevno povecava. Kako sam ja razumeo, po cinu inicijacije svi se zaklinju na cutanje. Jedini nacin da se iz sledbenika izvuce neka informacija jeste otvorena provokacija. Ljudi koje znam, koji su sledbenici te sekte, su mi u afektu rekli par stvari koje se ticu te verske organizacije, njihove inicijacije, kao i par detalja o onome u sta veruju. Zaista ne znam na koji nacin biraju kandidate, mada mislim da sve to ide preko poznanstva, jer u suprotnom ne bi mogli da uspu da sacuvaju tajnu. U svakom slucaju, ono sto znam o cinu inicijacije je da se potencijalnim sledbenicima daju nekakve pecurke koje izazivaju halucinacije i da se onda ostavljaju sami neko vreme, a da se posle, po istreznjenju zaklinju da ce da cute. Takodje, kako sam doznao, ne postoji nikakva sveta knjiga koju slede, vec se jednostavno znanje siri verbalno. E sad, kakve halucinacije imaju potencijalni sledbenici, o tome ne znam apsolutno nista. Jedino sto sam uspeo da izvucem od njih je da su njihova bazicna nacela hriscanska, da veruju u Hrista, kao i u drugog mesiju koji je, kako kazu, vec medju nama i sprema se za 2012. godinu da sudi zivima i mrtvima na ovom svetu. Pogadjate, u pitanju je onaj datum iz majanskog kalendara. Iznenadio sam se kad sam doznao koliko zapravo sledbenika ta sekta ima, a da se o tome apsolutno nista ne zna. Par ljudi koje znam odavno, kao i neki poznanici, su clanovi, a medjusobno se ne poznaju. Izrazito su osetljivi kada se pomene religija... Moze se reci, alergicni na ateizam, dok se cesto nerviraju i kada se govori o Hriscanstvu, ako se neki deo izvrne kako njima ne odgovara, osecace se kao da ste im uvrnuli ruku i krenuce prvo sa ubedjivanjem, a kasnije i sa vredjanjem. Pitanje je: zna li neko nesto vise o ovome, jer je ocigledno da tako nesto postoji kod nas, a jako se malo u javnosti cuje.
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Prvi put čujem za tu sektu, mada po nešto znam o pečurkama. Navodno neke od njih otvaraju percepcuju. Ljudi postaju svesni druge, duhovne realnosti kao i bića koja se tu nalaze. Neki koji su probali govore o astralnoj projekciji a neretko i komunikaciji sa vanzemaljcima ili nekim drugim duhovnim entitetima koji im prenose neka saznanja.
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Neke rastu kod nas i lako ih je naći. To su muhara (amanita muscaria) i panterova pupavka (amanita pantherina). Ova druga je cenjenija. Verovatno ih ima i na crnom tržištu, možda ima i uvoznih. Znam čoveka koji je probao muharu. Kaže da je dotakao Boga. Imena pečurki sam naveo da bi se informisali. I ako u manjim količinama nisu smrtonosne, kozuniranje ovih pečurki može ostaviti druge, nimalo lake posledice.
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