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Posto je najveci problem koju graficku karticu treba da ima lap top da bi mogli da radite u nekom programu a pak i da igrate manje zahtevne igrice,ili hocete malo jaci kompjuter a neznamte koju graficku da uzmete evo odgovora u daljem textu.ako neko moze da prevede sledeci text bilo bi super za ljude koji malo manje znaju engleski

1. Video Card comparison

    A. Integrated Cards
    B. Low-End and Midrange Cards
    C. Performance Cards
    D. High-End Cards

    THE BIG CHART

2. What kind of GPU do I need?
3. Information about video memory
4. FAQ
5. Conclusion

   


Section 1: Video Card comparison


A. Integrated Graphics Processors

What are Integrated Graphics Processors (IGPs)? They are a simple graphics controller located on the motherboard. IGPs (with few exceptions) do not have their own memory and cannot play complex 3D games. Integrated graphics cards are not for gaming – office work, DVD watching, and web surfing is near the limit of their capabilities. They can be found in almost any size notebook, from those with a 10.6” screen to 17”. Advantages of an IGP include low power consumption and virtually no heat.

Although IGP performance is for the most part irrelevant, they are rated below from lowest-performing to highest:

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Intel GMA900
Intel GMA950
ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
Nvidia GeForce Go6100/6150
ATI Radeon Xpress 1100/1150
ATI Radeon Xpress 1200/1250
Intel GMA X3100
Nvidia GeForce 7150M
Intel GMA X4500
Nvidia GeForce 8200M
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200
Nvidia GeForce 9400M
The Nvidia GeForce 9400M is the fastest integrated GPU on the market, followed by the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200. Put in perspective, the HD 3200 is about as fast as a dedicated Nvidia GeForce 8400M-GS in some modern games. The 8200M is also quite fast, almost matching a Go7400 (special thanks to forum member R4000 for submitting information about this GPU).
The Intel X4500 is a new integrated GPU that comes with the latest Intel 'Montevina' Centrino 2 platform. It is noticeably faster than the previous X3100, but still not up to par with ATI's and Nvidia's integrated GPUs, especially when it comes to game compatibility.



The GeForce Go6150 and Radeon X200M are very similar in performance, while the X1150 improves on them by about 30% in terms of overall performance.
IGPs have no memory of their own – they borrow it from the main system memory. Some IGPs, such as the Radeon X200M/X1150 can have some dedicated memory (64-128MB max.), but that is not common.


B. Low-end and Midrange Video Cards

Even if you are a non-gamer, it is sometimes worth it to get a dedicated video card. A dedicated video card can handle high-definition video decoding, significantly reducing the processor's workload. In addition, it is better to have a dedicated GPU for driving external displays and HDTVs since they will have better performance.

Low-end video cards can be found in notebooks of all sizes. If you are looking for an ultraportable (12” and less), then you probably won't get a dedicated card and don't want one anyway since small notebooks with dedicated video cards can get quite warm, and they drain power.

From lowest to highest performance:

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Nvidia GeForce Go6200
ATI Mobility Radeon X300
Nvidia GeForce Go6400
Nvidia GeForce Go7200
Nvidia GeForce Go7300
ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
ATI Mobility Radeon X1350
ATI Mobility Radeon X2300
ATI Mobility Radeon X1400/X1450
Nvidia GeForce 9200M-G/GS
Nvidia GeForce 8400M-G/GS
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400
Nvidia GeForce 9300M-G/GS
Nvidia GeForce 9400M-G
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470


C. Performance Video Cards

Now we're talking. Hardcore gamers and those looking for the best visual experience in a 15.4” or smaller notebook should target these cards. They can be found in anything from a 14” to a 17” notebook, and have ample power to play the latest games at the highest settings or close to it. Power consumption is higher than that of the mid-range cards, but still balanced. It is not hard to find a notebook with one of these cards that still has good (2.5+ hours) battery life.

From lowest to highest performance:

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Nvidia GeForce Go6600
ATI Mobility Radeon X700
Nvidia GeForce 8400M-GT
Nvidia GeForce Go7600
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
ATI Mobility Radeon X1700
ATI Mobility Radeon X2500
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530
Nvidia GeForce Go7700
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GS
Nvidia GeForce 9500M-G
Nvidia GeForce Go7600GT
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 DDR2
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT DDR2/Nvidia GeForce 9500M-GS DDR2 (same card)

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 GDDR3
Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GS
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT GDDR3
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 DDR2
Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT DDR2/9650M-GT DDR2
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 GDDR3
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570
Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT GDDR3
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670
Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT/Nvidia GeForce 9650M-GS (same card)
Nvidia GeForce GT 130M
Nvidia GeForce 9700M-GT
The Nvidia 9500M-GS and the 9650M-GS are not actually anything new, merely die shrinks of the current 8600M-GT and 8700M-GT respectively; everything else down to the clocks themselves are the exact same. They are nothing to get excited about and offer basically no performance increase over the existing cards. Why Nvidia is passing them off as a new generation is unknown.

The 8600M-GT is significantly faster than the 8600M-GS - the main difference between them is that the -GT has double the stream processors. See benchmarks for these cards here. Both of these cards are DirectX 10 compliant. The Nvidia 8400M-GT is in a different class than the 8400M-GS because it has a 128-bit memory bus. It is a fast card, just under the Go7600/X1600.
I have classified the 8700M-GT as a performance card because it has a 128-bit memory bus. A true high-end card has a 256-bit bus. Even though it outperforms high-end cards like the Go7900GS in synthetic 3DMark05 benchmarks, it will most likely fall behind it in high-resolution gaming performance.

For a comparison between the Go7600 and X1600, see this thread.
The ATI Radeon X1700 and GeForce Go7700 are only found in a select few notebooks at the moment. The X1700 offers near-identical performance to the X1600; read more about it here. The X2500 is the same card as the X1700 except it has a different name - ATI obviously did it for marketing reasons. Don't be fooled. The GeForce Go7700 is without a doubt faster than the X1700, although not by a huge amount.


D. High-end Video Cards

If you are looking for the best possible 3D performance in a notebook, the below cards are the fastest out there. You won't find them in anything short of a 17” notebook. They have considerable power requirements and produce equally high amounts of heat, hence the 17” size notebook is needed to house a cooling system for them. High-end video cards can handle all the latest games at high resolutions and maximum settings.

From lowest to highest performance:

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Nvidia GeForce Go7800
ATI Mobility Radeon X1800
Nvidia GeForce Go7900GS
ATI Mobility Radeon X1900
Nvidia GeForce Go7800GTX
ATI Mobility Radeon X1800XT
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce Go7900GTX
Nvidia GeForce Go7950GTX
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650
Nvidia GeForce 9700M-GTS
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670
Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GS
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTS
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTS
Nvidia GeForce GTS 160M
Nvidia GeForce Go7950GTX SLI
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX/9800M-GT
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTX
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260M
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTS SLI
Nvidia GeForce GTX 280M
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX SLI/9800M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTX SLI
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870 CrossFire


THE BIG CHART

This chart ranks every current notebook GPU's performance from least at the top to greatest at the bottom.

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ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
ATI Mobility Radeon X1700
Nvidia GeForce 8400M-GT
Nvidia GeForce Go7700
Nvidia GeForce Go7600GT
Nvidia GeForce 9500M-G
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GS
Nvidia GeForce Go7800
ATI Mobility Radeon X1800
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 DDR2
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT DDR2/9500M-GS
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 GDDR3
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT GDDR3
Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT DDR2
Nvidia GeForce 9650M-GT DDR2
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650/3670
Nvidia GeForce Go7900GS
Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT GDDR3
ATI Mobility Radeon X1900
Nvidia GeForce Go7800GTX
ATI Mobility Radeon X1800XT
Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT/9650M-GS
Nvidia GeForce 9700M-GT
Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce 9700M-GTS
Nvidia GeForce Go7900GTX
Nvidia GeForce Go7950GTX
Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GS
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTS
Nvidia GeForce Go7950GTX SLI
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX/9800M-GT
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTX
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTS SLI
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire
Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX SLI/9800M-GT SLI
Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTX SLI
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870 CrossFire


Section 2: What kind of video card do I need?

If.....

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-You don't play games
-You want the best battery life
-Portability is very important
....Then you are looking for a notebook with integrated graphics.

If.....

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-You don't require the best visual graphics, but just want to play occasional games
....Then a low-end video card should serve you well. Mid-range will also do, but not entirely necessary.

If.....

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-Your gaming needs are moderate, you want to balance visual quality and don't want to spend a lot
....Then a mid-range card would suit you best.

If....

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-You are a frequent gamer and want to enjoy a game at higher settings
-You want to retain some portability and battery life
.....Then a performance-class video card is what to shoot for.

If....

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-You want to play the latest games on the highest settings
-Portability and battery life aren't of the highest priorities
....Then you're looking at a high-end card and a 17”+ notebook.



Section 3: Information About Video Memory

“How much video memory do you need?” is a common question these days. Answer – 256MB to be able to comfortably handle the latest games. 128MB doesn't cut it, as modern games use high-resolution textures that need the extra memory.

Most gamers should not have any problems playing games on a 256MB card. For the best performance, look for notebooks that have video cards with GDDR3 memory, which can have significantly higher clocks than DDR2 cards.



Section 4: The FAQ


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1.Is a GeForce 8600M-GT 256MB DDR2 better than a GeForce 8600M-GT 512MB DDR2?
This is a very common train of thought – more video memory must mean better performance. This is not true – the video card itself matters much more than the memory it has.
In this case, both cards have the same performance. The 8600M-GT DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH POWER to use more than 256MB of memory. It has a limited 128-bit memory bus. Only cards with a 256-bit bus or greater are going to be able to use more than 256MB of memory. It is not worth spending any extra money on a mid-range card like the 8600M-GT with more memory. There is no performance gain to justify the price.
Why can't it use more memory effectively? Here's a primitive example. An office worker can use a maximum of three computers at a time. If he is given an additional three computers, is he any more productive? No, because he can only use three of them to begin with. The extra three do nothing.

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2.How much RAM do I need to play the latest games?
The minimum needed today to play modern games without issues is 2GB. Most games will run fine with that amount of memory. If possible, it is best to go to 4GB for the ultra-modern games (such as Crysis, CoD 4, etc). Note that you will need a 64-bit operating system to take full advantage of 4GB of RAM; a 32-bit OS will only see about 3GB.

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3.My game keeps crashing and getting odd errors and glitches, is there anything I can do?
There are several:
-Do a Windows Update manually: Start, All Programs, Windows Update. See what sort of updates are available for your system, mainly under hardware. Post a reply to this thread if you don't know what the updates do.
-Check for updates and patches for the games; Google/Live search is a great place to start.
-Update your video drivers

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4.I am experiencing very poor gaming performance, even though my computer should easily be able to play the game.
Try this:
-Start, Right-click My Computer, Properties, Advanced tab, under “Performance” hit Settings, Advanced tab. Now under “Virtual Memory”, change it to 1.5 or 2GB. Restart for change to take effect.
-Update your video drivers
-Make sure Vsync is off, both in-game and on your video card as well;
-Right-click Destkop, Properties, Settings, Advanced, and look for the option to toggle it on and off. The location varies, so I cannot give an exact location.
-Make sure Anti-Aliasing and Antistrophic filtering are off both in game and on your video card, see above bullet.

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5.Will a fast processor make up for a slower GPU?
No, it will not. The GPU is the bottleneck in most cases. If the video card is slow, the game will also run poorly because of it. The CPU can only do so much. For example, if the CPU finishes 50 frames and sends them to the GPU, but the GPU can only render 22 of them, then it wouldn't matter if you had a CPU that could finish 100 frames - the GPU can still only do 22. This is the case with most computers.
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6. What are the best video cards available in a 12-13.3", 14", 15.4", and 17" notebook?
Listed below are the best cards that can be found in different sized notebooks (all memory sizes listed are dedicated memory, not including shared via TurboCache/HyperMemory):
17"
-ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870/4870/4850
-Nvidia 9800M-GTS/9800M-GTX

The OCZ Whitebook (Alienware Area-51 M17), Clevo D900C/D901C (Sager NP9262), Clevo M570RU (Sager NP5796), and Alienware Area-51 M17X offer variations of these cards.

15.4"
High-end:
-Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX/9800M-GT: Alienware Area-51 m15x
-Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTS: Sager NP8660
-Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GS: ASUS G50
Mid-range:
-Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT: Sager NP2096, HP dv5t, MSI 1651

14"
-Nvidia GeForce 9650M-GT: ASUS N80

13.3"
-Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT*
-Nvidia GeForce 9500M-G (Dell Studio XPS 1340)
-Nvidia GeForce 9400M: Apple MacBook (2009 version)

12"
-Nvidia GeForce 8400M-GS

*Available in an LG laptop that is not available in the US, the P300/P310.

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7. How do I measure my FPS (Frames Per Second) in games?
There is a utility you can download which will display the frames per second in games - FRAPS:
http://www.fraps.com/
Download & Install, then minimize it and it will reside in the System Tray. The framerate counter will appear in one of the corners of your screen when a 3D application is opened up.
The ideal framerate is 30FPS and over; if you are not getting 30, then adjust settings until you do. I suggest reverting to the lowest settings, and increasing slowly from there.

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8. Will a faster hard drive help my gaming performance?
The hard drive does not affect in-game performance; a faster hard drive will only decrease loading times. A faster hard drive is a great upgrade for increasing overall performance (basically anything that uses the hard drive will see a performance boost), but it will not do anything for your framerates. For gaming, the components to concentrate on, in order of performance, are the Grahpics Card, amount of RAM, and Processor type.

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9. What is the difference between DDR2 and GDDR3 graphics memory?
This is a very confusing topic for those not computer-savvy. GDDR3 is the newer memory and it is built on a smaller process. It consumes less power, produces less heat as a result, and can have much higher clocks than DDR2. There can be substantial performance differences between cards with both memory types.
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