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Tema: Odložen izlazak 64-bitnog Windowsa !  (Pročitano 1779 puta)
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Blow for AMD, but no conspiracy...

By INQUIRER staff: Wednesday 28 July 2004, 10:20
A REPORT on news.com said that Microsoft has delayed its version of 64-bit Windows for AMD64 and for Intel's EM64T.

That will hurt AMD more than Intel if the reports turn out to be correct - the chip giant has said it won't release desktop chips using 64-32 extensions until Windows XP64 ships.

Sources within AMD tell the INQUIRER that delays in the release of Win64XP are, as we reported yesterday, nothing to do with a vast Intel-Microsoft conspiracy.

Instead, Microsoft is struggling to get XP service pack two out of the door, and has deployed a number of its programming staff to whip up that concoction just as soon as possible.

Beware speed bumpsIt would have a severely embarrassing SNAFU on its hands if it failed to deliver the security elements it has promised for SP2.

But SP2 is delayed as well - the most recent ETA for the patch is now August, but like every Microsoft software release, this is a moveable feast. However fast AMD sponsored cyclists like Lance A and F1 Ferrari cars go, the chip contender can't move faster than the speed of Microsoft. And then there's Longhorn, the snail like OS that was supposed to be in beta by now.
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A koja je sustinska razlika izmedju 64 i 32 bitnog procesora, u brzini ili jos necemu?
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The difference between 64 & 32 bit processors explained
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That is a great question and there are so many ways to answer it. When I first heard of a 64-bit processor being released by AMD I thought it was going to bring on a computer revolution, but it more or less has resulted in a whimper.

In the future, the battle between 64 bit vs 32 bit processors will inevitably yield the 64 bit processor as the victor, but this transition is going to take some time.


First, I’ll talk about the pure mathematics and structure of the processors that are involved here. I’ll keep this part short and sweet.       

A bit is short for “binary digit.” It is basically how a computer stores and makes references to data, memory, etc. A bit can have a value of 1 or 0, that’s it. So binary code is streams of 1’s and 0’s, such as this random sequence 100100100111. These bits are also how your processor does calculations. By using 32 bits your processor can represent numbers from 0 to 4,294,967,295 while a 64-bit machine can represent numbers from 0 to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615. Obviously this means your computer can do math with larger numbers, and be more efficient with smaller numbers.

Now see, that description wasn’t too bad, but the question is how does this affect you, the average PC owner? The largest benefit will go to academic institutions and private companies, where large calculations are being performed, huge databases are being accessed, and complex problems are being solved.

Everyone that doesn’t fall into that category will see some benefit of using 64 bit processors over 32 bit processors, but not much in today’s marketplace. The AMD Athlon 64-bit processor is completely backward compatible, meaning you can currently use it with 32-bit operating systems and software programs. You will see some benefits by using this setup, but because the programs weren’t written to take advantage of the extra power, they won’t use much of it.

The true benefits of this set up don’t come from the amount of bits, but by the improved structure of the 64 bit vs 32 bit processor's older structure. A 64-bit processor is made with more advanced silicon processes, have more transistors, and faster speeds. This is currently where the true benefit of switching to a 64-bit processor lays.

As for 64-bit operating systems and software, many are in the works, but nothing is in final version. Microsoft has released a beta version of Windows XP that takes advantage of the 64 bit technology, but there are still issues. The problem is when you run 32-bit software programs in the environment of a 64-bit operating system. Many programs won’t work properly, such as Adobe Acrobat and Windows Media Player, for example. Another issue is RAM. You really need about 4 GB of RAM to take full advantage of the capabilities offered by a 64-bit processor, while most PC owners have less than 1 GB under their computer’s hood.

So, the question now is should you buy a 64 bit processor now, or wait?

Disadvantages:
You’re currently not able to take full advantage of the technology because the software vendors haven’t made the switch from 32-bit to 64-bit processors.


Most AMD Athlon 64 bit processors are expensive, with prices sure to go down in the future.

Advantages:
Better performance out of a 32-bit operating system.


Probably the last processor you’ll have to buy for many years to come.


You’ll be the talk of all your friends!

As you can see, a sound argument can be made for both cases. You’ll have to determine if the differences will benefit your situation and computing future. I’ll leave the ultimate decision up to you.

If you are interested in buying a 64-bit processor, or at least contemplating the option, I recommend that you check out these sites below. They offer the best prices you’ll find on 64-bit processors and motherboard bundles anywhere.
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Ma ja ću da uzmem AMD 64 neće ovo pomoći inetlu ništa .. bar kod mene .. a jeste da je šamarčina AMD'u .. mada postoji 64-bitna verzija Windowsa .. ali je još u fazi testiranja .. i namenjena isključivi 64-bitnim programima .. drajverima itd ..
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