Ja sam završio prava ali mi je jedina ljubav arheologija, kao klinac, a sad ima skoro 30, gutao sam sve tekstove o istoriji, sa 15 sam pročitao Misterije sveta, od Artura Klarka i tada sam još bio zapanjen kristalnom lobanjom, pročitao sve knjige od Ahmeda Bosnića, koji je pisao o svim neobjašnjivim fenomenima, doduše, uglavnom prepisivao od Denikena, i od Lija, Bejdženta i Linkolna, Sveta krv, sveti gral, i sve što se god napisalo po novinama. Čitajući sve to siguran sam da je istorija drugačija od one koja nam je predstavljena.

Citao sam price Artura Klarka, i jako mi se svidjaju. Cak je covjek predvidjeo (intuicijom, kreativnoscu - ne teletabijom ) satelitsku komunikaciju i nesto sliiicno mobilnom (kao i Zil Vern- podmornice...). Ipak je on pisac fikcije, manje istoricar.

Da, naravno nikad ne treba iskljucivati opcije, ali ja imam povjerenja u sistem. Vjerovatno malo znamo i dosta nije objasnjeno, ali sad da neko nesto zabranjuje... tako se jednostavno ne ponasaju ljudi koji su zavrsili silne akademije. Tesko da ce neko  studenta arheologije oboriti na ispitu zbog vjerovanja.

Gledam često emisije na NG ili Discovery-ju i onda me nerviraju oni ukalupljeni likovi koji isključuju svaku drugu mogućnost osim one zvanične. To me, u principu, nervira, odbacivanje svake ideje koja odstupa od zvaničnih verzija.

Ljudi ajde sve ovo sto ste naveli, ali Stounhenc i ogromne glave na uskrsnjim ostrvima? Jel ima neko racionalno objasnjenje za to? Ja nemam...

Glave su podizane u čast preminulih poglavica, a za Stounhendž postoji objašnjenje da je to bilo mesto za održavanje verskih riutala u čast dolaska proleća i prolećne ravnodnevnice, jer navodno, kada se ne znam tačno kojeg datuma, da li 21. ili 22. marta nađete tamo, sunce u jednom momentu, preko jednog od vertikalnih kamenja pravi neku optiku iluziju ili tako nešto, koliko se sećam da sam pročitao negde davno...

Da, znam cemu sluze te glave... Ali kamenolom iz koga su dovlacene je nekih 5 km od mesta gde stoje... Znam da ima jos neka zanimljivost vezana za njih, ali se ne secam koja... Ako se setim, napisacu... Skleroza, mator covek... A za stounhenc je neko vec napisao da takvog kamena nema stotinama km od stounhenca...

Archaeoastronomy at Stonehenge

Already in the 18th century the British antiquarian William Stukeley had noticed that the horseshoe of great trilithons and the horseshoe of 19 bluestones at Stonehenge opened up in the direction of the midsummer sunrise. It was quickly surmised that the monument must have been deliberately oriented and planned so that on midsummer's morning the sun rose directly over the Heel Stone and the first rays shone into the centre of the monument between the open arms of the horseshoe arrangement.

View from the center of Stonehenge towards the Heel Stone, and a photograph of the sun rising over the Heel Stone

This discovery has had tremendous impact on how Stonehenge has been interpreted. For Stukeley in the 18th century and Sir Norman Lockyer in the first years of the 20th century, this alignment implied a ritualistic connection with sun worship and it was generally concluded that Stonehenge was constructed as a temple to the sun. More recently, though, the astronomer Gerald Hawkins has argued that Stonehenge is not merely aligned with solar and lunar astronomical events, but can be used to predict other events such as eclipses. In other words, Stonehenge was more than a temple, it was an astronomical calculator.

It was argued that the summer solstice alignment cannot be accidental. The sun rises in different directions in different geographical latitudes. For the alignment to be correct, it must have been calculated precisely for Stonehenge's latitude of 51° 11'. The alignment, therefore, must have been fundamental to the design and placement of Stonehenge. As if corroborating the claims made by Hawkins for Stonehenge, Alexander Thom, a professor of engineering and a mathematician, has shown that many other megalithic sites throughout Britain are also oriented towards the sun and the moon.

The alignment also made it clear that whoever built Stonehenge had precise astronomical knowledge of the path of the sun and, moreover, must have known before construction began precisely where the sun rose at dawn on midsummer's morning while standing on the future site of the monument. This point needs to be made because, as I suspect, with Stonehenge and many other such monuments, it was the site, a particular place within the landscape, that was important; only later were these sites marked in some more permanent manner by the digging of ditches and banks and (or instead) the erection of wood or stone structures.

For reasons we shall never know, this particular spot in the landscape was so important that not only were ditches and banks dug and, later, stone circles and horseshoe arrangements constructed to mark it, but that some of the stones were deliberately transported there with considerable effort from a great distance away.

Contrary to expectations, the great stone circles and horseshoe arrangements for which Stonehenge is famous are later additions to the monument (mostly Stonehenge III) and are not essential to the lunar and solar calculations.

Stonehenge: Phase I


Today Stonehenge I is barely noticed by visitors. Standing far outside the massed standing stones of Stonehenge III, the remains are comprised of a circular ditch inside of which was erected a bank. The bank is now eroded down to about a foot or so but can still plainly be seen. There is little agreement on how high it was originally. The diameter of the bank is 320 feet and it has at least one major break in it in the northeast, presumably to allow an uninterrupted view in the direction of the Heel Stone and the midsummer sun. At least one other break is a noticeable, and perhaps also a third. It should be noted that the break in the northeast is not quite aligned with the later horseshoe structures; nor is it quite aligned with the causeway beyond, or with the Heel Stone.

The Heel Stone

Inside the bank were dug 56 holes -- discovered by John Aubrey, and known as the Aubrey Holes -- placed at precisely regular intervals around a concentric circle of about 285 feet in diameter. Archaeological investigations have shown that these holes were not dug to hold upright stones or wooden posts. Besides the Aubrey Holes, of crucial importance are the four Station Stones marked at positions 91, 92, 93, and 94, to form a rectangle that stands in a precise relationship with the centre of the monument and with the Heel Stone. Only two of the Station Stones survive, and one of those may not be original.


Plan of Stonehenge with the Aubrey holes, the Heel Stone, and the Station Stones 91, 92, 93, 94 marked


For the archaeoastronomists, the Aubrey Holes served as fixed reference points along a circle, and their number was essential to astronomical calculations. The cycle of the moon, for example, which takes 27.3 days, can be tracked by moving a marker by two holes each day to complete a circuit in 28 days.

A much longer calculation is to move the marker by three holes per year to complete a full circuit in 18.67 years. In this way, it is argued, it would be possible to keep track of the nodes, points where the paths of the sun and the moon apparently intersect to produce an eclipse. Because the moon slews around in its path, the two nodes move along the path of the sun, a complete circuit of which takes 18.61 years. By means of the markers in the Aubrey Holes and keeping track of the directions of the sun and the moon, the astronomer at Stonehenge could calculate nodal points ahead of time and thus predict both lunar and solar eclipses.

Whether this was in fact the intended use of the Aubrey Holes is highly debatable. In recent years astronomical interpretations have been taken up in support of more fanciful notions about the cosmic "New Age" significance of Stonehenge and contemporary "secular Druidism".

Construction

Around 3500 BC the semi-nomadic peoples that populated the Salisbury Plain began to build the monument now known as Stonehenge. The original construction was a circular ditch and mound with 56 holes forming a ring around its perimeter. The first stone to be placed at the site was the Heel Stone. It was erected outside of a single entrance to the site. 200 years later 80 blocks of bluestone was transported from a quarry almost 200 miles away in the Prescelly Mountains. It is surmized that these blocks were transported by way of rafts along the Welsh coast and up local rivers, finally to be dragged overland to the site. These stones were erected forming two concentric circles.

At some point this construction was dismantled and work began on the final phase of the site. The bluestones were moved within the circle and the gigantic stones that give Stonehenge its distinctive look were installed. Some of these massive stones weigh as much as 26 tons! It remains a mystery how such huge stones could have been moved from the quarry at north Wiltshire by a supposedly primitive people.

E sad, ko razume engleski, shvatiće, a verujem da svi dobro razumemo.

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Vidiš, i dalje im nije jasno, ali meni najviše smeta što se alternativni pokušaji objašnjavanja nekih, naizgled, neobjašnjivih stvari, odbija. Npr. pre par nedelja sam gledao neku emisiju na, čini mi se NG, o Atlantidi, da li je mit ili istina, da li su oni, ako su postojali, ostavili svoje tragove i gde, i onda prikažu neku sliku, da li sa piramide ili nekog od spomenika u Dolini kraljeva na kojem se jasno vidi i nešto što liči na, što bi mi rekli NLO i nešto što veoma jako podseća na helikopter, i onda se javi neki pametnjaković koji to objašnjava time da je ustvari to nešto drugo, neki hijerglif, koji je prepravljan pa sad ispada da da liči na helikopter.

I drugo, čini mi se, a to neko odavde sigurno bolje zna, da i u manastiru Studenica postoji jedna freska na kojoj je naslikana osoba koja kao da se nalazi u nekoj letelici. Ako neko zna više o tome neka napiše nešto....

Istoriju i modernu nauku ne cine price koje pocinju sa "mozda"...