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19. Feb 2009, 20:03:50

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Citat: Feanor11985 19. Feb 2009, 19:57:05

Прво приоритети а то су сигурно православни Срби, РС и КиМ... Слажем се са поделом такође (као привремено решење док се не опаметимо и не постанемо озбиљан народ)... Ако и само ако се све ово реши повољно иде се даље али то је већ анучна фантастика...

Тачно тако. Само се никако не смемо заборавити да је о тамо наше! То не значи да сад сместа треба да се боримо за то, већ да то сачувамо као идеју (као Шипци за Велику Албанију) која треба да се спроведе под условом да се одраде прво приоритетне ствари.

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19. Feb 2009, 20:21:34

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Чувајте Љубав !

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Nepremostiva razlika između Zemunca i LDP-a (LDP bi Srbiju ugurao u NATO i priznao čitavo Kosovo), mora da je Tadićevac Smile

Drago mi je kada vidim da ljudi nisu ekstremi, tj. da nisu 100% radikali ( koji bi išli da sve oko sebe osvoje i na kraju ne dobiju ništa ), ali ni 100% liberalni (koji bi svu srpsku djedovinu izdjelili džaba a za sebe zadržali samo BG pašaluk); već da postoji ta neka mudra, zlatna sredina.. i umjeren stav po najvažnijim pitanjima. Smile

Nadam se da se oko toga bar većina može složiti.

« Poslednja izmena: 19. Feb 2009, 20:32:27 od Magic Master »

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19. Feb 2009, 20:48:46

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Citat: Magic Master 19. Feb 2009, 20:21:34

Nepremostiva razlika između Zemunca i LDP-a (LDP bi Srbiju ugurao u NATO i priznao čitavo Kosovo), mora da je Tadićevac Smile

Nadam se da se oko toga bar većina može složiti.

Đinđićevac, do groba. Tri put meri, jednom seci. Prilagođavaj se situaciji i snalazi se u realnom vremenu i prostoru. Ne sanjaj otvorenih očiju, zapuši nos i gutaj žabe kad moraš, nemoj mnogo da ih zagledaš. Smile

To što je Tadić slučajno predsednik DS, to je splet tragičnih okolnosti.

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19. Feb 2009, 21:34:04

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feanor,
ti govoriš stalno o preseljenju.Sigurno si iz beograda pa te to ne bi pogodilo.Lako bi se ti dogovorija sa Zagrepčanim ili Splićanim jer se vas to ne bi ticalo.Vi bi tuđe domove zamjenjivali ili tuđa groblja.Ja nikad ne bi pristao da netko mjenja moju rodnu kuću pa ako bi o tome ovisila sudbina Hrvatske.Većini ljudi ta je zamisao neprihvatljva.pa šta će mi država ako sam ja u njoj nesretan nije smisao u državi

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19. Feb 2009, 21:55:28

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Citat: BoraBorasS 19. Feb 2009, 21:34:04

U tom slucaju, nije lose da znas da su Srbi najgore prosli sto se tice gubitka teritorije gde su im ostali grobovi i visevekovna ognjista!

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19. Feb 2009, 22:42:08

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Ma kakva preseljenja bre ljudi... Da su generali Kadijević i Adžić lepo streljali kompletno Predsedništvo buvše Juge sa sve doglavnicima ne bi se posle ljudi gložili. Bolje i 100 glava da padne da se spreči rat nego da 100000 pogine u ratu, pa ma ko pobedio. Juga ne bi opstala u onom obliku ali ne bi bilo krvoprolića sigurno...

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19. Feb 2009, 23:00:23

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Ако вас не мрзи..

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The international law and the rule of law within countries are two essential values of our civilisation. Though imperfect, they are so far the only barrier capable of limiting arbitrary rule and minimizing the law o jungle in international relations. The situation around Serbian province of Kosovo is one current example of their violation.

YUGOSLAVIA

Since the beginning of the Yugoslav crisis, there has been an evident effort to stigmatize Serbs as the source of all evils. This manipulation was combined with systematic demonization of Slobodan Milosevic while democratic labels were attached to other non-Serb leaders.

Biased support by Western states for separation of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia without any control mechanisms and guarantees of minority rights represented a gross violation of valid international agreements and obligations to a state with full international legal legitimacy (Yugoslavia was member of a host of international organisations from United Nations to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, CSCE). These secessionist forces openly violated, without any regard to calculable political risks, the Federal Constitution of Yugoslavia.

Stephen John Stedman was perfectly right to observe in Foreign Affairs in 1993 that “... there was not Slovenia and Serbia but a state named Yugoslavia at the beginning of the war” and that Yugoslavia should have been regarded as a starting point for all following negotiations and actions. It should not be forgotten that other European states (like Spain or France) use repressive means as a matter of course including the army (in United Kingdom/Northern Ireland) to protect their territorial integrity and valid constitution. From this perspective, the case of Kosovo currently represents a climax in destruction of the Yugoslav statehood.

SERBIA / KOSOVO and METOHIA

The source of politically motivated violence, generally defined as terrorism, was the UCK paramilitary units. This organization was assessed as terrorist with connections to organized crime by important international and national institutions (including American ones) as late as 1998/1999.

On the contrary, allegations concerning mass Serbian crimes on the Albanian population of Kosovo and Metohia, presented as the reason for NATO armed attack on Yugoslavia, proved to be false (alleged massacres of civilian populations in the villages Racak and Rugovo, alleged concentration camp in the football stadium in Pristina, alleged “Operation Podkova” with the purported aim to ethnically cleanse Kosovo from its Albanian population).

The Kosovo speech by Slobodan Milosevic on June 28, 1989, and the modification of Serbian constitution introduced the same year and presented as abrogation of Kosovo autonomy in mass media, were the first “proofs” of alleged oppression of Albanian population by Serbs. In the campaign of manipulations, content of these events was systematically concealed or distorted as well their intentions, historical/political background and legal analyses. In facts, both events have to be viewed on the background of increased Albanian nationalism and attacks against non-Albanian citizens. While the Milosevic’s speech was incessantly labelled a proof of Serbian chauvinism by Western politicians and gleichschalted mainstream media, its text proves just the contrary: it is an unequivocal appeal for upholding the multi-cultural character of Serbia and preserving Yugoslavia as a multinational state. The issue was in no case to abrogate the autonomy of Kosovo but to remove legal asymmetry between the Serbian Republic and Yugoslav Federation. That was a by-product of the new Federal Constitution of 1974 which enabled Kosovo, a Serbian province, to be represented on its own in the Federal Parliament. Kosovo was historical part of Serbia but de facto behaved as another republic within Yugoslavia. In practice, Kosovo could co-decide on Serbian issues while Serbia could not influence that what was happening in its provinces of Kosovo / Metohia.

In fact, ethnical cleansing took place in Kosovo only after the bombing of Serbia and Montenegro. About 350,000 non-Albanians were expulsed from this area since the occupation of Kosovo by NATO troops, along with local Albanians who had opposed the activities of UCK. Approximately 40,000 destroyed or confiscated Serbian houses and 1,000 to 2,000 killed civilians (no official statistics available) should be included in the overall balance of Kosovo “liberation”, not to speak about destroyed Serbian monuments and religious facilities (about 150). Absolutely uncontrolled flood of Albanians from Albania into Kosovo has continued until now. The ethnical situation in Pristina, the capital of Kosovo, is a telling example. About 150,000 Serbs lived there before the NATO invasion, out of which only 140 remain now! Similar situation also prevails in other parts of Kosovo where non-Albanian population was either massacred (Kosovo Jews, for instance) or forced to live in “ghettos”. So, the ethnical cleansing was accomplished with very few exceptions, but in a way somehow different from that suggested by the media and political propaganda. Now, statehood for Kosovo should become the final result and recompense for this extraordinary barbarism. Should this happen, it would be a totally unprecedented example of international robbery of a part of a sovereign state since the end of World War II.

Kosovo is defined as autonomous territory within the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia by the 1999 UN Security Council Resolution No. 1244 which thus guarantees, in our opinion, also the territorial integrity of its successor the Republic of Serbia. The treaty on armistice or cessation of hostilities ratified by the SRY Parliament even speaks about the return of certain Serbian security and military forces to Kosovo. It is evident that a double moral standard is applied by the US and EU: one to Serbia, another to present Kosovo, Croatia (expulsion of Serbian population from Slavonia and Krajina), or Turkey and its fight against the “Kurdish separatism” which meant, by the year 2000, about 3 million Turkish citizens of Kurdish nationality deprived of their homes and approx. 3,500 Kurdish villages razed to the ground. After eight years of occupation, so-called “international community” finally decided to follow suit and approved the “Ahtisaari Plan” for Kosovo. Serbia should relinquish fifteen percent of its territory according to it. This only confirmed that, from the very beginning, the issue was not the protection of human rights and democratization but creating a new satellite in Balkans, totally dependent on its foreign protectors. The only really “Albanian” perspective leads up to creation of “Great Albania” which has been more or less openly admitted by separatist leaders not only in Kosovo but also in neighbouring Macedonia. This situation is strongly reminiscent of the Munich events in 1938.

On the contrary, the Serbian proposal for the statute of Kosovo represents the only feasible solution compatible with generally accepted moral and legal principles. This concept of Kosovo autonomy is based on a balance between current political reality and legitimate interests of Serbia. Should the secession of Kosovo be accepted the other way round, it would constitute blatant trampling of modern European civilisation values and a turn towards barbarism in international relations. Forced and internationally legitimised separation of this historical territory from the Republic of Serbia would constitute a dangerous precedent for the future of small states in Europe and elsewhere.

APPEAL

We express our full support in this matter to the government of the Republic of Serbia which is forced to internationally negotiate the future statute of Kosovo under undignified and unequal conditions.

This statement is sent for the attention of the civic initiative NO BASES, Jiri Dienstbier who was UN Special Plenipotentiary for Yugoslavia at the time when this country was bombed, and the embassy of the Republic of Serbia in the Czech Republic, as well as the association Res Publica, initiative ProReferendum2007 and other independent civic initiatives. At the same time we appeal to all those who are not indifferent to the fate of law and democracy and who understand that the problem of the American base in the Czech Republic and the Kosovo problem are nothing but two faces of the same coin, to publicly denounce another brutal trampling of international law and the principles of democracy.

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19. Feb 2009, 23:03:07

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Нико те не би ништа питао бре!!! Боље да тебе јадног преселе него да загине 150 000 људи...
А друга ствар, неко би померао и крајишнике са вишевековних огњишта... Smile

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Srbe treba staviti van zakona. Tu je sudac i overšitelj svaki onaj koji je i bjesnom paščetu. - Ante Starčević
U slučaju sukoba sa Srbijom nakon aneksije Bosne i Hercegovine Srbe treba masakrirati i proterati iz Hrvatske. - Josip Frank
Srbi u Hrvatskoj su Cigani, Vlasi i bog zna što, koji su s turskog koca utekli nama. Srbi su dakle Vlaški nakot zrio za sikiru. - Stjepan Radić
Tuđmanov cilj je bio rat po svaku cenu. Po tom njegovom konceptu trebalo je da Srbi nestanu iz Hrvatske - Josip Boljkovac, bivši ministar policije Hrvatske

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19. Feb 2009, 23:06:39

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Ево и текст Курта Нима о борбо против тероризма и шта је она донела Србима.

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In the years immediately before the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, the al-Qaeda militants moved into Kosovo, the southern province of Serbia, to help ethnic Albanian extremists of the KLA mount their terrorist campaign against Serb targets in the region … The United States, which had originally trained the Afghan Arabs during the war in Afghanistan, supported them in Bosnia and then in Kosovo. When NATO forces launched their military campaign against Yugoslavia [in March, 1999] to unseat [Slobodan] Milosevic, they entered the Kosovo conflict on the side of the KLA [Kosovo Liberation Army], which had already received “substantial” military and financial support from bin Laden’s network, analysts say.

In other words, the United States was supporting al-Qaeda after the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in August, 1998, events attributed to al-Qaeda and thus, we are told, prompting Clinton to bomb “training camps” (constructed earlier by the CIA) in Afghanistan on August 20 of that same year. Remarkably, in a story published by Jerry Seper in the Washington Times, the bedfellow relationship between Clinton, Osama bin Laden, and the KLA was spelled out:

Some members of the Kosovo Liberation Army, which has financed its war effort through the sale of heroin, were trained in terrorist camps run by international fugitive Osama bin Laden, who is wanted in the 1998 bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 224 persons, including twelve Americans … The KLA members, embraced by the Clinton administration in NATO’s bombing campaign to bring Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to the bargaining table, were trained in secret camps in Afghanistan… and elsewhere, according to newly obtained intelligence reports. … The reports also show that the KLA has enlisted Islamic terrorists, members of the Mujahideen, as soldiers in its ongoing conflict against Serbia, and that many already have been smuggled into Kosovo to join the fight. … The reports said bin Laden’s organization, known as al-Qaeda, has both trained and financially supported the KLA.

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20. Feb 2009, 09:22:57

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Одличан текст Мајкла Чосудовког о распаду Југе, мора да се прочита!
http://www.sarantakos.com/kosovo/ks3yugo.html

Исто тако текст Едварда Хермана и Дејвида Питерсона на неколико страна такође о распаду Југославије. Јако добро штиво, ко има стрпљења..
http://monthlyreview.org/1007herman-peterson1.php

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