1.na štrbčevom popisu ima toliko toga da je postao smiješan i jadan, ne samo da se žrtve ponavljaju nego su tamo strpani ljudi koji nikada nisu vidjeli jasenovca
2.lako se po popisima stanovništva prije 2.sv.rata i poslije može izračunati broj žrtava jasenovca i nije ni blizu 100.000
3.jasenovac je "radio" i za vrijeme jugoslavije sve do otvaranja golog otoka
4.poznata je vaša dijagnoza prenapuhavanja

Na "granicama" Krajne je bio UN.

МОжемо ли ми да видимо пописе становништва пре 2 св. рата из општина које су касније биле у НДХ? Као и да ли би неко могао да ми опбјасни како је онда Југославија имала 1 700 000 жртава званично и признато од УН, на основу којих је допила, како се то зове  ''репарације'' или тако нешто? Нису ваљда сви изгинули у партизанима?

na granici okupiranog teritorija (linije razdvajanja)

un nije bio faktor koji je legalizirao krajinu nego tampon zona, koju su krajišnici više puta neselektivno granatirali a pogotovo su orgijali po korisnicima autoputa zagreb-lipovac što je i bila kap koja je prelila čašu te se dogodio bljesak

raznorazni povjesničari su istraživali te popise i možeš ih pronaći na netu kao i podatke o broju stradalih

Ma kako da ne. Stave svoje snage UN tek onako, a potom neko napadne tu zonu.
Bas je neko najvan da roka zonu Un sem vas sa "dozvolom".

a šta su un snage sveto pismo???

lijepo smo vam ponudili z4, niste htjeli, najavili oslobođenje, dobili zeleno svjetlo i oslobodili se

i šta bi vi sad? sve ispočetka? kako da ne....

Krajina je bila zona pod zastitom UNa i svaki napad na takvu zonu je krsenje medjunarodnog prava, dakle ratni zlocin.

Sto se tice toga da ste dobili zeleno svetlo, ne sumnjam u to, a dobili ste i mnogo vise od toga 

Ако би могао неке линкове да ставиш овде, да нам уштедиш време, а да скратимо расправу. Оно што сам ја видео на интернету је сајт оног центра Симон Визентал на коме пише да број жртава најмање 90 000 и да варира између тог броја и 700 000.

Ево шта још каже центар Симон Визентал ...

June 18, 2007

Wiesenthal Center Expresses Outrage At Massive Outburst of Nostalgia for Croatian
Fascism at Zagreb Rock Concert; Urges President Mesic to Take Immediate Action

Jerusalem – The Simon Wiesenthal Center today expressed its sense of outrage and disgust in the wake of a massive show of fascist salutes, symbols and uniforms at a rock concert by popular ultra-nationalist Croatian singer “Thompson” attended by 60,000 people in Zagreb last night. In a letter sent today to Croatian President Stjepan Mesic, the Center’s chief Nazi-hunter Israel director Dr. Efraim Zuroff noted the presence of Croatian dignities, including the Minister of Science, Education and Sports, at the event and called for the banning of concerts by singers like Thompson who glorify fascism and racism.

According to Zuroff:

“According to the Croatian media, the concert turned into a massive fascist demonstration with tens of thousands of people shouting the infamous Ustasha salute of “Za dom spremni.” In addition,… numerous participants came wearing Ustasha uniforms and symbols. To make matters worse, in attendance last night were officials and members of Parliament, as well as the Minister of Science, Education [!!] and Sports.

“Under the current circumstances, I believe that the time has come to prohibit public concerts by those who write songs of nostalgia for Jasenovac and inspire the show of Ustasha symbols, which constitute open and blatant incitement against all the minorities in Croatia.

“I believe that only if someone of your stature and outstanding anti-fascist credentials will lead the efforts to combat this ugly wave of revived fascism, can this extremely dangerous new trend be stopped before it engulfs Croatia.”


Па још једно упозорење ...

June 28, 2007

WIESENTHAL CENTER: CROATIA MUST ACT TO COUNTER VENERATION OF FASCIST USTASHE PAST

Center says, “…This kind of behavior, left unanswered, will not only mock the victims of the past, but threaten the future of democracy.”


The Simon Wiesenthal Center protested to the Croatian government over the open display of WWII-era fascist symbols, banners and uniforms by fans at a recent concert in Zagreb. The headliner act, “Thompson”, proudly promotes Croatian ultranationalism in their music, sometimes celebrating heroes of the Ustashe--the fascist party who sided with Hitler during WWII--and heroes of the 1991 Balkan war, some of whom are suspected war criminals. Especially alarming to the Center was a song expressing nostalgia for the concentration camps Jasenovac and Stara Gradiska, where at least 90,000 Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and anti-fascist Croatians perished at the hands of the Ustashe.
      
In a letter to Neven Jurica, the Croatian Ambassador to the U.S., Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Wiesenthal Center, expressed alarm at the concert, saying that while the Center respects Croatia’s democracy, “…it is clear that this kind of behavior, left unanswered, will not only mock the victims of the past but threaten the future of democracy.”
      
Cooper urged the Ambassador that Croatia’s youth need to fully understand the horrors of the past by adding significant revisions to the current exhibition at the Jasenovac camp site to name those who ran the camp and to “directly and fully explain that it was Ustashe’s racism, antisemitism and xenophobia that spawned Jasenovac.”

Cooper also urged the Croatian government to push legislation that would ban the use of Ustashe symbols, much in the same way that Germany and Austria ban the use of the swastika. Such a bill had been previously rejected by the Supreme Court on a technicality.

The Wiesenthal Center’s Israel Director, Efraim Zuroff, also protested to the Croatian government. Zuroff, who heads the Center’s efforts to bring WWII war criminals to justice, played a key role in the arrest, deportation and conviction of Dinko Sakic, the commandant of Jasenovac, in 1999. The Wiesenthal Center was also instrumental in the 1984 arrest of Ustashe Interior Minister Andrija Artukovic.

Alo (H)Istoicari !!!
Drzite se teme.

Нисте ви понудили з4 него је тај план дело Америчког амбасадора Голдбрајта. Тај план по сведочењу Шаринића ( мислим да се тако зове) шефа обавештајне службе ХР није био прихватљив за Хрватску, те да би га одбили да су Срби прихватили тај план. Међутим прво су се Срби изјашњавали о том плану и одбили га, а онда су усташе имале оправдање за даље акције.

Дакле нисте ВИ понудили!