Warm-Up Show' for Guns N' Roses



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By BEN RATLIFF
Published: May 13, 2006

Rock and roll audiences want to identify with the guy singing the song; they need to, in fact. But you’d be hard-pressed to prove that the crowd at the Hammerstein Ballroom on Friday night was identifying with W. Axl Rose. What does he represent, at this stage of the game? Survival? Re-invention? Creative control? The tortured artist? The persistence of the yowl? If the spirit of his age resides in him, his long postponement of an infamous album has diluted that spirit somewhat.

But if the physical reality of Mr. Rose - dressed L.A. style in a leather shirt and jeans and wearing a large silver cross, his hair corn-rowed and pulled back - wasn’t an easy figure to identify with, his voice and body language did the job instead. When he sang “Paradise City,” the crowd adopted a yowl in kind; when he danced in his undulating movements, like the letter S turning itself inside out, the men and women in the audience involuntarily moved that way too.

Friday night’s concert was the first of four Guns N’ Roses shows at Hammerstein Ballroom. On stage, Mr. Rose called them “warm-up shows” for the band’s European tour, which begins May 25 in Madrid. It’s fair to assume that the large-theater shows will have clearer sound and more effective stagecraft; Mr. Rose’s voice sounded strong, even in his highest nasal shrieks, but the band wasn’t using the warm-up time to experiment. The set list of the two-hours-plus show, complete with flash pots and confetti, came pretty close to what an only slightly different version of the band was playing four years ago, on its last tour.

Mr. Rose is the only original member left in the quintessential ‘80s hard-rock band, and this has been the case since 1997. The newest of the seven musicians backing up Mr. Rose on Friday, one of its three guitarists, is Ron Thal, also known as Bumblefoot. (One of his guitars has been designed to look like the bottom of a foot, with bumblebee stripes.) He takes up the role of the pyrotechnic shredder, vacated in 2004 by the guitarist Buckethead. At certain points in the show, including a few discontinuous unaccompanied solos, he accelerated to impressively fast chromatic runs; he also played some lavish, Hendrix-influenced blues language. Why this band’s gut-level songs now require the ornamentation of a wizardly guitarist at all remains unclear. It makes the band more atemporal, more Vegas-y, than necessary.

It was the group’s principal guitarist, Robin Finck, who made the sweetest and most grounded music of the night, and seemed most comfortable at work. An off-and-on member of the band for nine years now, Mr. Finck assumed most of the lines in the old songs formerly played by the guitarist Slash. But when he improvised, he spun out simple patterns, shaking the guitar’s neck and getting warmth and resonance out of each note or chord; his own unaccompanied solo, just before the concert’s final number, was a beautifully coherent, non-shredding couple of minutes, the best of the less-familiar music played in the show. He gave himself to the crowd, even literally, diving in to the audience three times.

The less-familiar songs were, actually, kind of familiar. That infamous, postponed Guns N’ Roses album, of course, is “Chinese Democracy,” which has been in the making for much of the last decade, and still has not been scheduled for release. Some of its songs included in the concert—“The Blues,” “Better,” “Madagascar,” “Chinese Democracy,” “There Was a Time,” and “IRS”—are easy enough to find on the internet, in leaked demos and bootlegged live performances. And in the concert, the new songs distinguished themselves visually as well as sonically, with serious-looking video backdrops: stained-glass details, religious portraiture, Martin Luther King speeches.

The crowd didn’t go nuts for them. Most of the new songs are dystopian, tense, portentous, finally a bit inconclusive; they dabble in electronic rhythms, big keyboard sounds and droning repetition. They didn’t produce much catharsis, on stage or in the audience. “Sweet Child o’ Mine” and “Patience,” on the other hand, were among the set’s old songs that motored along on earthy, meaty riffs, and provoked the fully expected but still astonishing spectacle of a full house roaring along with every word.
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Pratio sam koncerAt live  do 7 AM ... e to vam je fan  .

Evo setliste :

01. Welcome to the Jungle
02. It's So Easy
03. Mr. Brownstone
04. Better
05. Live And Let Die
06. Sweet Child O' Mine
07. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
08. Madagascar / Band Introductions
09. You Could Be Mine
10. Dizzy Solo
11. The Blues
12. Out Ta Get Me
13. Bumblefoot Solo
14. November Rain
15. My Michelle (with Sebastian Bach)
16. Chinese Democracy
17. T.W.A.T. (There was a Time)
18. Patience
19. I.R.S.
20. Nightrain
21. Robin Finck Solo
22. Paradise City

Evo i download certa, od 6-te pesme pa do kraja (72 MB, moze se cuti) ---> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K0CO1JDH

Slike ---> http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2006...n_roses_ha.html

Moram da dodam da There Was A Time (live) blago receno RAZARA ... jos je Ron Thal malo dodatno jammovao ... isto onaj Dizzy-ev solo je jako dobar! A Axl je izlecio svoj glas konacno   

Finck im je gitarista koji svira Slashove solaze uglavnom, Fortus je odlican na ritmu, a Ron im je sreder koji je, navodno neophodan za novi materijal.

sada videh i odma se bacam na skidanje,
repertoar mi je potpuno zadovoljavajuci... gde je bio prenos koncerta?

        SLASH Addresses GUNS N' ROSES Rumors, Talks About Upcoming VELVET REVOLVER Album - May 15, 2006

On the rumors that Slash was rejoining GUNS N' ROSES:

Slash: "I saw a thing that was put out that said something to the effect that I won't be doing any gigs until after a certain point [referring to a May 8, 2006 Associated Press article which stated that 'Slash may end up back in the band as well, but probably not before the Hammerstein shows.' — Ed.] He put out some sort of… He [GUNS N' ROSES frontman Axl Rose] did a radio interview, I guess, in New York, and it said whatever city he was gonna be playing, it said it won't be until after that… And I was like, 'Where does this stuff come from?' But before that, the whole thing was, like, everybody just assumed that I'd quit VELVET REVOLVER and I was joining… Even you guys [speaking to Matt — Ed.] thought that."

Matt: "Well, hey… You can't believe everything you read. [Laughs]"

Slash: "It was like all these rumors going around. So I just wanted to dispel that one. That one and the fact that I ever had a conversation with him [Axl] at all.'

Matt: "I told the story last week that I ran into him [Rose] in New York and actually talked to him, and it was fairly pleasant. It was very pleasant, actually, but we were both drunk, so that helped. [Laughs]"

Slash: "When we were on the red carpet last night [at the MusiCares MAP Fund benefit concert in Hollywood], that was the first thing that I went and talked about to what's-her-face from CNN, and [I was] just so inundated with questions about what's going on with VELVET REVOLVER, supposedly all this in-band fighting going on, and then all these rumors about GUNS N' ROSES, and this and that and the other, and I was just like… I've been minding my own business, sitting at home, working on the songs [for the new VELVET REVOLVER album]. I mean, the fact that people even care enough to start rumors or keep regurgitating them… it's amazing."

Matt: "I mean, I guess FALL OUT BOY isn't doing anything crazy to talk about, so they might as well talk about us old sods. [Laughs]"

Slash: "I guess that's one thing that's always gone along with that name, GUNS N' ROSES — there's always been this controversial… just talk. [Laughs]"

Matt: "Well, like you were saying before, it didn't help us get through airports quickly. It's like, 'You guys over there, in the room. Drop your pants.' [Laughs]"

Slash: "I think this is the first time, though, that it's actually been so intrusive that I started, like, going… 'Cause I don't read… I don't get on the computer and read everything that's going on, so it's always by word of mouth. 'Oh, I heard this,' or 'I heard that.' 'Where'd you hear that?' 'Oh, it's online.' [Laughs]"

Matt: "You can't get away with anything in this world anymore, man — I'm telling you. If you're down there in Atlanta hanging out with some stripper, the next day it's on the Internet, and if you've got an old lady back in… wherever. I mean, there's nothing you can do in the world that everybody isn't gonna put up on the Internet, and it's a real drag, actually. [Laughs]"

Slash: "In this case, though, it started stuff with my band. And, of course, that whole thing that I filed for divorce didn't go over well either. [Laughs]"

Matt: "The old lady didn't dig that too much. [Laughs]"

Slash: "No, that was like… [I was like], 'What are you talking about?' 'Look on your computer.' And I'd look on there… [It was written] very matter-of-factly, on the date that [supposedly] I did it… this, that and the other, and all things considered..."

On VELVET REVOLVER's current status:

Slash: "We're still a band and none of that stuff [the rumors] is…"

Matt: "We actually just recorded a song that we're gonna put on this movie. Do we have the movie? Or don't we? [Laughs]"

Slash: "I think they offered it to us and we have to give them song, and… It sounds really good, so I don't think there's gonna be a problem, like, 'Oh, I don't think that's what we wanted.' [Laughs] I mean, I guess that could happen, but I doubt it."

Matt: "It's this new Steven Spielberg flick. It's…"

Slash: "And [Robert] Zemeckis."

Matt: "And Zemeckis… yeah, I forgot about him. Zemeckis and Spielberg… And it's this animated flick called 'Monster House'. It's really cool. They took us down to see it in a private screening room and the whole deal. It was nice."

Slash: "Yeah, it should probably be a big movie."

On Axl Rose's claim that Slash made an unannounced 5:30 a.m. visit to Rose's house in October 2005 during which he stated, among other things, that "Duff was spineless," "Scott [Weiland] was a fraud," and that he "hates Matt Sorum":

Slash: "I'm not gonna go into the whole long thing. It was just something that he [Axl] decided he was going to… It was a lot of this stuff was built to promote the next GUNS record and the tour and all that kind of stuff, 'cause there was this blatantly fabricated thing in there that I'd gone to his house and that he and I had a conversation in which I said all this stuff about my bandmates. And it's just blatantly untrue. For one, I have not talked to the guy in any way, shape or form since 1996, so it's going on 11 years. [Laughs] So that's basically it. There's just no truth to it. And all things considered, it put lot of whatever in people's minds that I was that kind of a guy, so it's… there you have it. So it's not true."

On Slash's claim in a February 2006 interview that GUNS N' ROSES' "Chinese Democracy" would finally surface in March:


Slash: "I got a lot of flak for having said that, 'cause everybody through I was on glue. I'm the first guy to go… I would never have put out a date. But somebody who would know is who told me that, and that's somebody close to that side of the fence that told me, 'Oh, we got a March release date.' So I just repeated it, basically. It was somebody in the business. They made it sound like it is coming out on such and such a date. Really, I didn't realize that it was such a big deal. And I think some people were like, 'You've gotta be out of your mind.' But it was very sort of casual, in conversation."

On potential producers for the new VELVET REVOLVER album:

Slash: "I think Duff ran into Lenny [Kravitz] at some point and they were talking about producers, and Lenny offered his serverices. Something like that."

Matt: "We haven't actually figured out who's gonna produce it yet, but we are doing one song with this guy Dave Sardy, who produced JET and the new WOLFMOTHER band. We're kind of gonna go… I think we're gonna be a little nastier sound on this record, hopefully."

Slash: "The whole record thing… Everything that I've heard that everybody's been working on is just awesome."

Matt: "Yeah, we've got a bunch of songs, so we've basically… Everyone's kind of just been doing their own thing. You come off the road after being on the road together for 18 months and it's kind of like, 'I'll see you in a couple.' [Laughs] So we kind of all spread out. We've got a big pile of… Slash's got a pile of songs, and me and Duff got a couple of that we did together, and Dave's [Kushner] got one, and actually one that we're using for this movie."

Slash: "That's how this band seems to get together every time. We just do one song for a movie and that kick-starts the whole project. [Laughs]"

Matt: "It's gonna be kind of cool 'cause the song is coming out really good, so it'll get us out there again, 'cause we've kind of been out on the road. People don't realize that when you're out on the road that you're out there. I've just been on an 18-month tour.

"But the new album is gonna be good… very good. We don't know who's producing it yet.'

Slash: "A lot of good candidates."

Matt: "Everybody's just throwing it out there. Sometimes you get in a press thing or something and you might say something that maybe… Scott talked to Pharrell at the Grammys and then it became, like, an idea, but it hasn't been, like, engraved in stone or anything. And then, like, I… I talked to… Duff talked to Lenny Kravitz — I was there when Duff was talking to him — and it was sort of like, 'Let's just get together and see what we can come up with.' That kind of thing. It wasn't like, 'Hey, do the record.' It was more like just a couple of musicians getting together seeing what they could come up with, really."

Slash: "What really is casual conversation, once it hits the press, man, it gets turned into something else. Everybody who's out there listening sort of gets the wrong… gets the misconception, basically."

Matt: "So that's basically the story for now. We're definitely… I have my studio. We were over there the other day, and it seems like it's a pretty good vibe over there, so we're just gonna get in there and kind of demo everything up and get the songs happening, because, you know, it's all about the songs, my friend."

...znaci toliko o glasinama da ce se prikljuciti Gunsima 
@Live_And_Let_Die
steta sto nije bolji snimak koncerta    al hvala u svakom slucaju   

Bice bolji snimak ovih dana ... za sada, od dobrih snimaka imam The Blues i Better, cim dobijem ostatak odmah cu uploadovati ...

Mislim da nema potrebe za Slashom, ako poslusate koncert(e) videcete da Finck ownuje sve Slashove solaze i jos plus novi gitarista i odlicni Richard Fortus na ritmu ... ja mislim da je to vise nego dovoljno da se zameni jedan Slash (koji, btw je malo PREcenjen). Oni koji sviraju su zamenljivi, a vokal nikako .

Jednio sto sada u Gunsima nedostaje je fizicko prisustvo Slasha/Duffa/Matta , znaci ako samo slusas dodje ti isto ... ovaj bend sto je Axl okupio je mnooogoo napredovao od 2002. do danas ... na svu srecu .

Je li Finck jos uvek svira u GNR-u

zato sto se secam da je otisao.A on mi je car dok sam ga gledao i slusao u Nine inch nails-u

naravno da svira...

Set-List:
1. Welcome to the Jungle (@ 11:06pm EST)
2. It's So Easy
3. Mr. Brownstone
4. Live and Let Die
5. Bumblefoot Solo
6. KOHD
7. Better/Axl says to security "Ease up a little" during the middle.
8. SCOM/Axl says "I gotta call from Izzy earlier today"...
9. Dizzy piano Solo
10. The Blues
11. OTGM
12. Fortus + Finck Solo
13. Axl Talks
14. Rocket Queen/before the song he mentioned Izzy again, and said people recognized him in NYC a lot...
15. My Michelle w/Sebastain Bach
16. Madagascar w/14 years mention [on further reading..it is Axl mentioning about not talking to Lars..possibly Lars Ulrich of Metallica..and how he had recently talked to him...I guess its not a mention of the song]
17. YCBM/Finck crowd surfs during song...Axl asks Finck if he's alright he says "Thats what I live for man."
18. November Rain
19. I.R.S
20. Night Train
21. Patience [Encore]
22. Chinese Democracy
23. Band Intros
24. Finck Solo
25. Paradise City (@ 1:19am EST)

Setlista od juce ... ista kao prvo vece sto su svirali samo su ubacili Rocket Queen umesto There Was A Time.



Na slici je Finck, ako neko ne prepozna ...


Evo Sweet Child O' Mine (od jutros ) ... vokal se na cuje bas najbolje, ali muzika se jako dobro cuje ...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MNZE3ON5

evo ga stari dobri finck majku mu.Samo sam zaboravio posto je 2002 napustio GNR pa se vratio iste godine.

A koja glupost sa postavom od 8 clanova.

Sta ce mu 2 klavijaturiste