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Tema: Game of Thrones - Igra Prestola - Serija (Moderatori: Shone83, monk13, Paralelni Svet, slatkis_ml, Ziledin)

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kliko12

Poruka #4360

02. Maj 2019, 19:24:24

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Citat: Baltazar Srbija 02. Maj 2019, 19:17:36

Ona scena u najavi pred 8. sezonu,kada Arya,Sansa i Dzon stoje ispred svojih statua pa se okrenu i izvuku maceve a ledeni talas ide ka njima.. GDE JE?

To je samo promotivni snimak.. reklama. Nisi valjda stvarno mislio da je to deo neke epizode.
Nije ova serija da svako razume Smile

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nnrrthhd

Poruka #4361

02. Maj 2019, 19:26:32

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Citat: Baltazar Srbija 02. Maj 2019, 19:17:36

Ona scena u najavi pred 8. sezonu,kada Arya,Sansa i Dzon stoje ispred svojih statua pa se okrenu i izvuku maceve a ledeni talas ide ka njima.. GDE JE?

Ne verujem da ćeš je videti... Sansa se jedva snalazi s nožem, dati joj mač bi bilo suludo.

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stefaneka

Poruka #4362

02. Maj 2019, 20:22:57

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Ако је поента била да се деси оно што нико није очекивао, онда можемо и мене да ангажујемо као сценаристу. Нека Денерис купи накурњак и нека опали Џона у дупе и ето нечега што апсолутно нико није очекивао, је л' тако да то аутоматски значи да је одлично? Smile

Енивеј, видео сам добру фору на нету.

ПРЕ ПОЧЕТКА СЕЗОНЕ: Како ће да стрпају све у шест епизода?!
НА СРЕДИНИ СЕЗОНЕ: Како ће да развуку све у три епизоде?!

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sergio ramos

Poruka #4363

02. Maj 2019, 20:52:07

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Kad si u Rimu ponašaj se kao Rimljanin

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The "Bran is the Lord of Light" theory is all but confirmed this episode, and G.R.R.M. himself gave the big clue last year. The real origin origin of the Dagger.
Theory
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Hear me out.

In an interview with Time Magazine last year, G.R.R.M. explicitly made sure to bring up Beric Dondarrion.

"he’s not a living human being anymore. His heart isn’t beating, his blood isn’t flowing in his veins, he’s a wight, but a wight animated by fire instead of by ice, now we’re getting back to the whole fire and ice thing"

So Beric is a "fire wight". And thats obviously foreshadowing something. The big question is, if the Night King animates the ice wights, who then animates the fire wights?

Here are the Facts:

Bran is a powerful warg. We know he gets visions of the past, present and future…and can manipulate the past to help save his future self. We don't yet know the extent of this power.

We knew the Night King can reanimate the dead into evil still-dead soldiers. But this episode we learned he can also manipulate snow and ice at will, sending a full blown blizzard. (This is key.)

Followers of the Lord of Light believe that their Lord is always at war with his evil opposite diety. Theres always a dichotomy. Light vs Dark. Good vs Bad. Fire vs Ice. Everything in this world has an antithesis.

The 3 eyed raven seems to be NK's eternal adversary. He intentionally killed the OG 3 eyed raven, and ever since he's been after Bran.

The lord of light supposedly has a "purpose" for everyone. Consequently, everyone supposedly brought back by the lord of light helped Arya defeat the Night King.

Bran gave Arya the dagger, and offered himself as bait. So like the Lord of Light, everything Bran has done recently also ultimately leads to Arya defeating the Night King.

What we can take from this…

If the Night King is Lord of Death, Night, and Ice…he should have an equal opposite. That opposite would of course be the Lord of Life, Light, and Fire (ie. The Lord of Light) .

The Night King is a physical entity, his opposite should be too. The Lord of Light likely has a physical presence (or a physical champion at the very least). So who is it? they don't ever explicitly show any other being with NK's level of power (or do they?)

If the Night King can reanimate the dead, his "light" opposite should have an equal level of power to bring life. And if NK's reanimated dead fight for evil, then his opposite's reanimated dead would fight for good/the living.

George R.R. Martin confirmed this logic, with his mentioning the existence of the "Fire Wight". Beric, Jon, (and maybe the Hound) are one of them. So the above theory that the Lord of Light is the NK's opposite holds water

If the NK can manifest snow and ice at will. Then his opposite should be able to manifest fire at will. And maybe...communicate with others through it.

Bran and the Lord of Light are working towards the same goal.

The 3 Eyed Raven is the NK's ultimate adversary….the force hes always at battle with.

The simplest explanation to all of this ...The 3 Eyed Raven is the Night King's opposite. The NK's opposite is the Lord of Light. Therefore, Bran = the Lord of Light (or at least what people think is the Lord of Light due to the signs he brings)

So how does this play out?

The Dagger Arch

First consider the dagger.

The entire storyline from Season 1 on revolves around the dagger. And the entire dagger story is intrinsically linked to Bran.

We also know the dagger is ancient, as it appears in Sam's book. Its been passed down from generation to generation, as all existing Valerian steel has been. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/9/97/Valyrian_steel_dagger_game_of_thrones_catspaw_blade_sam.png/revision/latest?cb=20170723084654

We don't actually know for sure who owned the dagger, or where the assassin got it. Littlefinger claims it was his but later denies it. Even if it was Littlefinger's, its never explained where he got it. This is important.

The Theory

It all but obvious at this point, Bran has been manipulating the plotline the entire time. He knew exactly how the battle was going to end. He knew exactly how to kill the Night King, because he set the trap himself. While warging during the battle, he was likely manipulating events to lead to the final conclusion.

Everything he has done has revolved around getting the dagger to Arya and getting her safely to the NK. That plan was set in motion all the way back in Season 1.

Future Bran made sure that dagger was sent to kill his childhood self. He put the key piece in play. He then warged into Summer to kill the assassin.

Farther back than that, the dagger may have belonged to Aerys Targarian (passed down through their family), and Bran messed with him to make sure it got where it needed to go. (Maybe Jaime or Littlefinger picked it up after the Mad King was slain).

It’s possible the dagger was even forged originally for the purpose of killing the Night King thousands of years later.

Arya's training was also crucial/pre-planned. She would have never trained to kill without....1) Bran's assassination attempt being pinned on Tyrion (because of the dagger). And 2) King Robert's Death.

We already know how he could have manipulated the assassination. He could have also been warged into the wild boar that killed King Robert, if it were for the good of the realm.

Melesandre told Arya last episode what Syrio Forel told her before he was killed, "What do we say to the god of death? Not today". Homage to the fact that her training was all destined from the beginning.

All of the war and death that was sparked because of Bran. He knew it would happen, but he saw how the alternative story lines would play out, where the Night King wins. He sacrificed whoever he had to for the good of the realm. Much like lord Varys (who he spoke to through the flames after he was cut)

All of the "magical Lord of Light moments" that are supposedly the God's work, are actually Bran manipulating the past, resurrecting people and making sure Arya got the knife and made it to kill NK.

Beric getting brought back to life so many times….it wasn't the shitty priest saying a prayer. Both he and Melesandre said he shouldn't have that power. In fact, it was Bran bringing him back to life so he could help Arya during the battle.

The hound surviving. Septon Ray told him he thought he was a corpse. He also told him that he pretty much died multiple times while he was recovering, but he kept coming back to life. After he comes back to life, he's fighting for good. Again, hound ended up a key figure in getting Arya to the NK.

Jon coming back. No evidence again to suggest Melesandre's prayer did it. She completely gave up, and he didn't come back to life until a while after.

The trench lighting on fire…again, it didn't seem to be Melesandre's words that did it. You could see she was getting frustrated/confused when it wasn't working at first. It was actually Bran summoning fire.

Lord Varys hearing the voice in the flames after he was cut....which is said to be what lead to him ending up in King's Landing and rising to power. After that scene with the priestess in the Pyramid, it cut to Bran’s face.

We know Bran is the most powerful living being other than the Night King. We know both he and the Lord of Light are working towards the same goal, and both manipulate the storyline.

It makes sense that Bran is the Lord of light, and all past 3 Eyed Ravens were also the Lord of Light. Or at the very least they’re representatives of him .

Where was Bran during the battle? Making shit happen. This would make the Night King's death wayyy less anticlimactic than it was.

Some interesting questions then come up if this all plays out. When the Whites die, their wights they turned die.

If Bran dies, does Jon automatically die too?

Now that the Night King is dead, whos the Lord of Light's new opposite to balance out the dichotomy? (Cersei? Danny? perhaps)

Further Evidence

Bran's powers are strongest by the Weirwood trees. Aka the "Heart Trees" The trees were worshiped by the First Men (and Children of the forest?) as gods. They're known as "Heart Trees". The lord of light is also known as the "Heart of Fire", with a symbolic heart.

The Children of the Forest brought back Benjen as a fire-wielding fire wight. They're obviously the key to the power of both the NK and the Lord of Light. They could have created the 3 eyed raven/LoL the same as they created the NK as a counter balance

Bran (or the OG 3 eyed raven) are likely who drove Aerys II Targaryen mad, whispering for him to "Burn them all". He's been fighting the future battle from the past for a long time.

In the episode followup commentary, they implied they randomly picked Arya to kill the NK at some point; and wove the episode to heighten the surprise. Its hard to believe that decision was really random

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Da li i u političkoj sferi postoji kolonijalno potčinjavanje? Nekome se može i to pričiniti. Ali, kada Šreder ili Bler savetuju vladu, to nikako nije čin najcrnjeg ponižavanja nacije i ruganje žrtvama iz 1999. To nije ni tragična slika države koja je izgubila svako samopoštovanje. Ne, to je manifestacija mudrosti, dubokog političkog uvida i afirmacija realpolitike kakva nije viđena još od vremena kneza Miloša. Srbija je, nema sumnje, na pravom putu.

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nnrrthhd

Poruka #4364

02. Maj 2019, 21:01:27

Ucesnik diskusija

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Stvarno, to je jedini način na koji su mogli da ubiju NK-a? Smešni su mi ovi tekstovi koji i dalje pokušavaju da nađu smisao kad su već i sami pisci odavno digli ruke.

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Its hard to believe that decision was really random

Neko očigledno ne razume kako Holivud funkcioniše.

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marko 284

Poruka #4365

02. Maj 2019, 21:07:08

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Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

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In the episode followup commentary, they implied they randomly picked Arya to kill the NK at some point; and wove the episode to heighten the surprise. Its hard to believe that decision was really random

Sto rece jedan sa youtuba, mi govorimo o ljudima koji su jednom Deadpool-u zatvorili usta da ne prica. Tako da, ne znam cemu sve ovo izmisljanje necega sto ne postoji kako bi ih opravdali njihov scenario koji je sada na nivou latinoamerickih sapunica i pun gluposti.

« Poslednja izmena: 02. Maj 2019, 21:07:16 od marko 284 »

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"Oni koji su vešti u borbi, ne obuzme ih bes. Oni koji su vešti u pobedi, ne obuzme ih strah.
Zato mudri pobeđuju pre borbe, dok se neznalice bore da bi pobedili"

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khadafi

Poruka #4366

02. Maj 2019, 23:25:56

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Monkey see, monkey do.

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To.

Нек их побије арија све и нек освоји престо, људи ће да се чоже и да говоре да им се свиђа Smile

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7ki7

Poruka #4367

03. Maj 2019, 14:19:07

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LG Nexus 4

Meni je serija i epizoda odlicna. Ja ne razumem ljude sta su ocekivali? Vi bi svi verovatno napravili bolji obracun sa NK? On izasao iz vatre, zajebao Dzona, jbg, morao je nekako da umre. Kako bi vi to odradili kada ste tako pametni? Pregazi ga Bren kolicima?
Vidim sve super ideje, zasto nisu napali Sersei, pa cekali NK u toplijim krajevima... Pfff, odakle poceti? Prvo zato sto je vecini sever njihov dom, i pozeleli su da ga brane, drugo sto je pitanje da li bi mogli da im pobegnu i onda bi se osudili da ih kolju usput, pogotovo zene i decu koji ni put ne bi izdrzali. Mozda zato sto su verovali da ce Sersei da dodje da pomogne kako je obecala. Mozda zato sto je nebuloza povuci se i cekati da NK ima umesto milion sledbenika 100 miliona, itd, itd... Super ideja, sve u svemu...
Ima mozda malo losijih fora u seriji, ali ja ne znam ni jedno ostvarenje koje ih nema. Serija i epizoda su pokidali, a svi vi kojima se ne svidja, i smatrate da ste prepametni za ovako glupe zaplete i resenja ste u svakom trenutku slobodni da ne gledate, i jos bolje da napravite bolju seriju, sa radoscu bih je ispratio... Smile

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kliko12

Poruka #4368

03. Maj 2019, 14:27:28

Zvezda u usponu

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Citat: 7ki7 03. Maj 2019, 14:19:07

Hvala Bogu da pročitam nešto pametno ove nedelje

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stefaneka

Poruka #4369

03. Maj 2019, 14:31:25

Jet set burekdzija

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А што тебе боли курац што се нама не свиђа? Мислим, по којој логици ти то нама препоручујеш да је не гледамо ако нам се не свиђа а не препоручујеш себи да не читаш шта ми пишемо пошто се теби свиђа?

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