Cernobilj se smatra kao najveca nuklaerna nesreca koja se ikad dogodila...za vreme nesrece,stvorena je ZONA evakuacije koja obuhvata radijus od 30km poluprecnika u kojoj danas skoro nista ljudsko ne zivi.iako su zakljuceno da je doslo do eksplozije zbog kontakta vodonika sa reaktivnim materijama,nikad se nije razjasnilo da li je to bila nesreca...
Istocno polesje,danasnja ZONA,cesto pominjan sinonim,se sastojala iz brojnih vojnih,energetskih i transportnih cvorova  i objekata.
Tu su bili gradovi Pripjat,Cernobilj i jos gomila sela koja su odlicno funkcionisala zbog nepevelike naseljenosti i time malo problema...
Neke od najvaznijih gradjevina regiona su se nalazile upravo tu:Cernobilj NPP,Agroprom Institut za istrazivanje agrokulture,veliki zeleznicki cvor koji je povezivao deo severne Ukrajine istocno i zapadno od Kijeva,brojne sisteme za navodnjavanje tada veoma plodnih i zdravih njiva,kao i Inter-Kontinentalni preko-horizontalni radar DUGA3 koji je u kooperaciji sa jos dva radara na teritoriji danasnje Belorusije,koji su bili usmereni ka SAD i potpuno je pokrivali,nadgledao sve do Vladivostoka,koji je i sada grad pod cenzusom-zatvoreni grad,upravo zbog svoje vaznosti.
Duga3 radar,jos poznatiji kao "Steel Yard","Over-the-hoizon Radar","the Russian Woodpecker","Eye of Moscow",tj, "Celicni stroj","horizontski radar","Ruski Detlic","Oko Moskve"...je bio,i danas bi bio,najmocniji radar ikada napravljen koji je jacao ostale radare Sovjetskog Saveza,tako da je pokrivena skoro cela teritorija i to tako jako da su se razlikovale ptice...
Cernobilj 3,jos jedno popularno ime za ovaj i dan-danas najstroze cuvani objekat na teritoriji Sovjetskog Saveza,je takodje bio od velike vaznosti za celi zapadni deo,jer je sam,bez umrezavanja drugih radara,cuvao,nadgledao i obezbedjivao ceo deo Evrope od Baltickog Mora,dve do Crnog Mora.
Objekat je tada imao(od cega i dalje ima):
1.Nuklaerni Silos sa 10 rampi
2.Najvecu ikada napravljenu antenu na svetu sastavljene od celicnih greda u obliku uspravne mreze visine 60m a duzine preko 200 koja je isto sluzila za radar sve do Vladivostoka,dok su njene kopije u Belorusiji u Gomelju sluzile istoj svrsi,samo su bile uperene U SAD
3.najjaci emiter koji je imao tako jake frekvencije da je mogao da ometa skoro celu Evropu,Aziju i deo severne polarne oblasti
4.posle DUGA2,najmocniji rakteni stit-sistem koji je sluzio kao odbrana u slucaju Nuklaernog napada i imao je dejstvo sve od Murmanska do Turske-ovuda ne bi mogla da prdje nijedna nuklaerna bomba
5.nekoliko objekata za PVO
6.vrlo mocan sistem emitera,talasa i sprava za ometanje raketa i aviona
Doslovno-nista nije moglo da udje na teritoriju Sovjetskog Saveza,ILI da se krece na teritoriji SAD,a da "Duga"objekti to ne primete i ne onesposobe.
Najbolji dokaz koliko je taj sistem bio jak i neprobojan jeste to da tokom testiranja Duga3 radara,emitera,silosa,antene,presretaca i PVOa,mada najvise samog radara od februara sve do decembra 1976 na svakoj lokaciji u svetu na odredjenoj frekvenciji se mogao cuti zvuk koji lici na udranje petlica i koji e bio toliko jak da je upadao radio-stanicama u program u Tokiju,Singapuru,Dallasu,Teheranu,Londonu-svuda u svetu...mnogi seljaci koji su ziveli blizu Duge3 su koristili tu pojavu cak i posle zavrsetka testiranja i zabadali neonke kako bi plasili ptice na usevima...
ovo je bio jedan od najvecih faktora i pokazivaca da je Sovjetski Savez sto se tice spijunaze bio skoro neprobojan...





ovo je tekst o Zoni ekskluzije,kako je zovu na engleskom:
The zone was established soon after the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, in order to evacuate the local population and to prevent people from entering the heavily contaminated territory. The area adjoining the site of the disaster was divided into 4 concentric zones, among them the fourth (actually the nearest, within a radius of 30 km) being the most dangerous. Any residential, civil or business activities there are legally prohibited and punishable. The only officially recognized exception is the functioning of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and scientific installations related to the studies of nuclear safety.
The zone is partly excluded from the regular civil rule. It is controlled by the Administration of the Alienation Zone within Ukraine's Ministry of Emergencies and Affairs of Population Protection from Consequences of Chernobyl Catastrophe. The territory of the zone is policed by special units of the MVS and (along the border line) the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine.
Everyone employed within the zone is allowed there for certain shifts (ranging from several hours to one month). The duration of shifts is strictly counted regarding the person's pension and healthcare issues. The personnel of the above-mentioned nuclear installations constantly reside in Slavutych (a specially-built remote city in Chernihivs'ka oblast'), others in different cities and towns of Ukraine.
Access to the zone for brief visits is, however, readily possible; day-tours are available (to the public) from Kiev, and scientists and contracted workers visit the area and the plant itself as required.
[edit] History
Historically and geographically, the zone is a heartland of the Polesia region—the birthplace of East Slavs. This predominantly rural woodland area was once home to 120,000 people, living in 90 communities (including rapid-developing cities of Chernobyl and Prypyat). It is now mostly uninhabited. Leaving homes and parting with friends and relatives has been a major life tragedy for all evacuated. TV footages shot during the evacuation preserved the painful scenes of traditional folk houses and churches being crushed by army bulldozers. That is why the 1986 devastation is widely seen as the symbolic tragedy of the Ukrainian nation and spirit.
[edit] Nature and infrastructure
The flora and fauna of the zone have been dramatically affected by the radioactive contamination that followed the accident. The cloud of heavily polluted dust left the so-called Red Forest (Rudyi Lis)—a stand of irradiated pine wood near the plant, which was subsequently bulldozed. Cases of mutant deformity in animals of the zone were reported but none were proven except partial albinism in swallows.
Nowadays, the nature of the area seems to have not only survived, but flourished due to significant reduction of human impact, and the zone is considered a classic example of an involuntary park. Populations of traditional Polesian animals (like wolves, wild boar and Roe Deer), elk/moose, and beaver have multiplied enormously and began expanding outside the zone. Even extremely rare lynx have appeared. Special game warden units are organized to protect and control them. Formally, the Alienation Zone is a unique "Radiological Reserve".
The rivers and lakes of the zone pose a significant threat of spreading polluted silt during spring floods. They are systematically secured by dikes.
The whole industrial, transport, and residential infrastructure has been crumbling since after the 1986 evacuation. There are at least 800 known "burial grounds" (Ukrainian singular: mohyl'nyk) for the contaminated vehicles with hundreds of abandoned military vehicles and helicopters. Dozens of river ships and barges lie in the abandoned ports.
A former Soviet military installation is relatively close by to the power plant, consisting of both one transmitter and a receiver belonging to the Steel Yard Over-the-horizon radar. It allowed monitoring of ICBM launches east of its location using ionospheric reflection. The secrecy around this unit provoked a rumour that it was the real cause of the disaster.
The poaching of game, illegal logging, and metal salvage are the current problems of the zone. Despite certain police control, the unemployed from outside sometimes infiltrate the perimeter and remove polluted materials.
Also, since the late 1990s, looters have removed anything worth significant value, from electronics to even toilet seats in the Zone, especially in Pripyat, Ukraine, where residents of the 30 or so high-rise apartment buildings had to leave all of their belongings behind. In spite of this extensive looting, some buildings remain untouched.
[edit] The people
Dozens of people (mostly the elderly) refused to be evacuated from the zone or illegally returned there later. After recurrent attempts at expulsion, the authorities became reconciled to their presence and even allowed limited supporting services for them. These people (known as "samosely", translated as "self-settlers") declare their strong commitment to the surrounding nature and rural lifestyle. This population includes some vagabonds and other marginalized persons from the outside world, such as war refugees from parts of the former Soviet Union. Samosely usually deny or are resigned to any significant damage to their health resulting from the high levels of radiation in the environment.

kao sto svi znamo,Cernobilj je danas evakuisan,tj, gradovi Pripjat i Cernobilj koji su tada brojali 50.000 i 20.000 su evakuisani zajedno sa jos mnogim selima i ukupno evakuisano stanovnistvo broji 120.000.
medjutim,ono sto se vrlo malo zna o istoriji Cernobilja jste upravo Duga3 sistem.mnogi koji su ziveli u ZONI su znali za postojanje strogo-cuvanog vojnog obejkta,ali nisu znali od koliko je u stvari veceg znacaja za Sovjete i koliko je to mocan i strateski vazan kompleks.

OTH Systems: USSR/Russia

The Soviets has also studied OTH systems starting as early as the 1950s. Their first experimental model appears to be the Duga-2, built outside Nikolayev (on the Black Sea coast near Odessa). Aimed eastward, Duga-2 was first started on 7 November 1971, and was successfully used to track missile launches from the far east and Pacific Ocean to the testing ground on Novaya Zemlya.

This was followed by their first operational system, known in the west as Steel Yard, which first broadcast in 1976. Built outside Gomel, near Chernobyl, it was aimed northward and covered the continental USA. Its loud and repetitive pulses in the middle of the shortwave radio bands led to it being known as the Russian Woodpecker by amateur radio (ham) operators. The Soviets eventually shifted the frequencies they used, without admitting they were even the source, largely due to its interference with certain long-range air-to-ground communications used by commercial airliners. A second system was set up in Siberia, also covering the whole USA as well as Alaska.





Russian Woodpecker
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Duga-3 array outside Chernobyl. The white cages appear to be the primary elements, with feed horns (the pipes) leading from them to the back of the array (left). A backplane reflector of small wires can just be seen left of center, most clearly at the bottom of the image.
Duga-3 array outside Chernobyl. The white cages appear to be the primary elements, with feed horns (the pipes) leading from them to the back of the array (left). A backplane reflector of small wires can just be seen left of center, most clearly at the bottom of the image.

The Russian Woodpecker was a notorious Soviet signal that could be heard on the shortwave radio bands worldwide between July 1976 and December 1989. It sounded like a sharp, repetitive tapping noise, at 10 Hz, giving rise to the "Woodpecker" name. The random frequency hops disrupted legitimate broadcast, amateur radio, and utility transmissions and resulted in thousands of complaints by many countries worldwide.

The signal was long believed to be that of an over-the-horizon radar (OTH) system. This theory was publically confirmed after the fall of the Soviet Union, and is now known to be the Duga-3 system, part of the Soviet ABM early-warning network. This was something that NATO military intelligence was well aware of all along, having photographed it and giving it the NATO reporting name Steel Yard.
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    * 1 History
          o 1.1 Appearance
          o 1.2 Identification
          o 1.3 Disappearance
    * 2 Positions
    * 3 References
    * 4 Further reading
    * 5 External links

[edit] History

The Soviets had been working on early warning radars for their anti-ballistic missile systems through the 1960s, but most of these had been line-of-sight systems that were useful for raid analysis and interception only. None of these systems had the capability to provide early-warning of a launch, which would give the defenses time to study the attack and plan a response. At the time the Soviet early-warning satellite network was not well developed, so work started on over-the-horizon radar systems for this associated role in the late 1960s.

The first experimental system, Duga-1, was built outside Nikolayev in the Ukraine, successfully detecting rocket launches from Baikonur Cosmodrome at 2,500 kilometers. This was followed by the prototype Duga-2, built on the same site, which was able to track launches from the far east and submarines in the pacific ocean as the missiles flew towards Novaya Zemlya. Both of these radars were aimed east and were fairly low power, but with the concept proven work began on an operational system. These Duga-3 systems used a broadcaster and receiver separated by about 60 km.[1]

[edit] Appearance

Starting in 1976 a new and powerful radio signal was detected worldwide, and quickly dubbed the Woodpecker by amateur radio operators. Transmission power on some woodpecker transmitters was estimated to be as high as 10 MW EIRP. As well as disrupting shortwave amateur radio and broadcasting it could sometimes be heard over telephone circuits due to the strength of the signals. This led to a thriving industry of "Woodpecker filters" and noise blankers.

One idea amateur radio operators used to combat this interference was to attempt to "jam" the signal by transmitting synchronized unmodulated continuous wave signals, at the same pulse rate as the offending signal.[2] This idea was considered, but abandoned as impractical. Simple CW pulses didn't appear to have any effect. However, playing back recordings of the woodpecker transmissions sometimes caused the woodpecker transmissions to shift frequency leading to speculation that the receiving stations were able to differentiate between the "signature" waveform of the woodpecker transmissions and a simple pulsed carrier.[3]

[edit] Identification

Triangulation quickly revealed the signals to come from the Ukraine. Confusion due to small differences in the reports being made from various military sources led to the site being alternatively located near Kiev, Minsk, Chernobyl, Gomel or Chernihiv. All of these reports were describing the same deployment, with the broadcaster only a few kilometers southwest of Chernobyl (south of Minsk, northwest of Kiev) and the receiver about 50 km northwest of Chernobyl (just west of Chernihiv, south of Gomel) . Unknown to most observers, NATO was well aware of the new radar installation, which they referred to as Steel Yard.

Even from the earliest reports it was suspected they were tests of an over-the-horizon radar.[4], and this remained the most popular theory during the cold war. Several other theories were floated as well, including everything from jamming western broadcasts to submarine communications. The broadcast jamming theory was debunked early on when a monitoring survey showed that Radio Moscow and other pro-Soviet stations were just as badly affected by woodpecker interference as Western stations. More speculative explanations have also been offered, claiming it was a system for weather control or even an attempt at mass subconscious mind control.

As more information about the signal became available, its purpose as a radar signal became increasingly obvious. In particular, it's signal contained a clearly recognizable structure in each pulse, which was eventually identified as a 5-bit pseudo-random binary sequence, 25 being 31-bits long, with a bit-width of 1 μs resulting in a 31 μs pulse.[5] This sequence is usable for a 100 μs chirped pulse amplification system, giving a resolution of 10 miles (the distance light travels in 100 μs). When a second Woodpecker appeared, this one located in eastern Russia but also pointed toward the US and covering blank spots in the first system's pattern, this conclusion became inescapable.

In 1988, the Federal Communications Commission conducted a study on the Woodpecker signal. Data analysis showed an inter-pulse period of about 90 ms, a frequency range of 7 to 19 MHz, a bandwidth of 0.02 to 0.8 MHz, and typical transmission time of 7 minutes.

    * The signal was observed using three repetition rates: 10 Hz, 16 Hz and 20 Hz.
    * The most common rate was 10 Hz, while the 16 Hz and 20 Hz modes were rather rare.
    * The pulses transmitted by the woodpecker had a wide bandwidth, typically 40 kHz.

[edit] Disappearance

Starting in the late 1980s, even as the FCC was publishing studies of the signal, the signals became less frequent, and in 1989 disappeared altogether. Although the reasons for the eventual shutdown of the Duga-3 systems have not been made public, the changing strategic balance with the fall of the cold war in the late 1980s likely had a major part to play. Another factor was the success of the US-KS early-warning satellites, which entered preliminary service in the early 1980s, and by this time had grown into a complete network. The satellite system provides immediate, direct and highly secure warnings, whereas any radar-based system is subject to jamming, and the effectiveness of OTH systems also subject to atmospheric conditions.

According to some reports, the Komsomolsk-na-Amure installation in Siberia was taken off combat alert duty in November 1989, and some of its equipment was subsequently scrapped. Google Maps photography of the area shows that the antenna has been removed. The original Duga-3 site lies within the 30 mile Zone of Alienation around the Chernobyl power plant. It appears to have been permanently deactivated, since their continued maintenance did not figure in the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine over the active early warning radars at Mukachevo and Sevastopol. The antenna still stands, however, and has been used by amateurs as a transmission tower (using their own antennas) and has been extensively photographed. Images of the Gomel installation.

Teorija nesrece je objasnjena mnogo puta,javnost je upoznata sa posledicama,zna se uzrok nesrece,ali u polsednje vreme pocinje da se javlja sve vise teorija i dokaza da je nesreca u Cernobliju sabotaza.
kao sto se vidi na slici,Duga3 kompleks je udaljen od Cernobilj NPPa samo 10 kilometara.
Upravo zbog toga je kao i sve ostalo i Duga3 zauvek zatvoren i evakuisan,ali ono sto se i dans vidinije zaboravljen.iako zvanisno zatvoren,mnogi od nekoliko stotina ljudi koji jos zizi u ZONI pod dozvolom su vidjali kako vojna vozila cesto posecuju taj kompleks,a izlaze tek posle nekoliko nedelja i da se ocito vidi da je Duga jos u radnom stanju...sta se amo sad radi-niko jos ne zna,ali ono sto je siurno jeste da je taj radar uvek bio idealno smetalo spijunima i avionima.
Teroije i fokazi kazu da je Cernobilj sabotaza,kako bi se zatvorio Duga3 kako bi americki stealth avioni mogli da udju u inace nekada neprobojan Sovjetski savez i spijuniraju Moskvu kao i neke tajne gradove u kakve je donekle spadao i Pripjat.mnogi svetski eksperti i vojni zvanicnici su potvrdili da je Duga3 uvek bio trn u oku americkim obavestajnim sluzbama,a mnogi koji su radili bilo gde u ZONI zajedno sa jos nekim zvanicnicima tvrde da je CernobiljNPP namerno sabotiran.
ovde imate opise i tekstove,bice ih jos,slike,kao i snimak "ruskog detlica"koji se mogao cuti bukvalno svuda u svetu na odredjenim frekvencijama i koji je bio toliko jak i visok da je ometao mnogo radio-stanica.
takodje bih voleo da cujem ukoliko neko zna jos ponesto i ukoliko neko ima neko misljenje,neka ga podeli...

evo su neke slike vezane za izgled ZONE uopsteno,slike Celicnog Stroja i jos ponesto...
usput,izvinjavam se ako ima nekih gresaka u tekstu-pisao sam 2 sata...
slacu jos slika,a ko zeli nek kaze svoje misljenje...
1.slika kompleksa Duga3 OTHa preko Google Eartha
2.slika jedne manje antene iz OTHa,ali opet prilicno velike i jake 60m visine i duzine oko 100
3.slika skoro cele ZONE...poluprecnik joj je 30km od CernobiljNPP ne grada cernobilja
4.Slika grada Pripjat koji je evakuisan
5.nacrt nekadasnjeg izgleda rada radara Duga i deo njihove pokrivenosti
6.slika sa jedne od najvecih antena visokih oko 100 a dugackih oko 200 metara izuzetne jacine i sposobnosti
7.slika CAEZ nuklaerne elektrane(cesto mesane sa gradom Cernobilj,iako se zove "Cernobilj NPP) i udaljenosti od vojnog kompleksa-10km.a od Pripjata 4km...
8.slika prikazuje pribliznu gurbu pokrivenost radarskog sistema Duga2 koji je stacioniran i dan-danas u blizini Vladivostoka-zatvorenog grada na istoku Rusije koji drzi jos brojne enormno-vazne vojne komplekse
9.slika prikazuje pokrivenost radarskog sistema Duga1 koji je isto i dan-danas stacioniran u Belorusiji blizu grada Gomelj,koji je udaljen od Duga3 150km i dosta je da kazem kooperisao sa Dugom3 i zato su i smesteni tako relativno blizu
10.prikazuje grubu pokrivenost radarskog sistema Duga3 stacioniranog blizu grada Cernobilj-sada napustenog,iz kojeg su izvedene nuklaerne inter-kontinentalne rakete dok je antena sa jos brojnim sistemima ostala,i iako zvanicno zatvoren,kompleks i dan-danas uspesno radi pod tajnom upravo zato sto je veci i vitalni deo duboko po zemljom tako da se vrlo lako moze i dalje koristiti jer ga je sad lako obezbedjivati...

pa moguće je da su amerikanci uz pomoć nekih mudžahedini ili plaćenika izvršili sabotažu, ali to je opet teorija zavere...

jeste,ali ne kao i ostale teorije zavere pout Elvis nije mrtav i tako to...
ovo je sjajna i istinita teorija,samo sto vrlo malo ljudi zna za nju...
postovacu jos neke slike i cuveni snimak Ruskog Detlica...
a sto se tice samog izazivanja nesrece,citao sam knjigu"Cernobilj-kraj Nuklaernog sna"iz 1987,koja je izdata namerno tako rano da bude kao raport,a ne da se ceka sa izdavanjem i tamo se opisuje da je vodonik dosao u kontakt sa nekim supstamcama i izazvao eksploziju krova koji je potom izbacio sav los materijal,jer se inace taj krov nikada ne bi mogao probiti cak ni granatom jer je bio vrlo jak,a ta hala ispod njega je bila zabranjena za ljude,upravo zbog isparenja,a vodonik pravi nevidjeno jake i burne eksplozije ireakcije,tako da jos kad je bio kompresovan u vidu gasa,bilo je gotovo...
medjutim,taj H2 nikad ne bi dopreo do hale-morao je da se napravi pu i to veliki da bi doslo do takve eksplozije,a trebalo je samo probusiti cev na tom odvodu,otvoriti nekoliko ventila,napraviti jos jednu malu rupu u halu,i dovoljno je da je precnika 5cm da sav taj H2 pohrli ka cezijumu zbog pritiska i da se napravi jaka eksplozija...
jednom recju,H2 pravi minijaturne nuklaerne bombe,ali u Cernobilju nije mogao nikako da dodje u kontakt i napravi reakciju...
i eto,sad znate,nije eksplozija napravila stetne materijale,vec rupu na jakom krovu(iliti "sarkofagu"oklop u N.elektranama se cesto tako naziva zbog svoje dobre kontaminacije materija koje nastaju radom reaktora) i oslobodio Cezijum 137,Stroncijum...nije bilo mnogo plutonijum ili uranijuma upravo zato sto Hvala Bogu nije eksplodirao reaktor...
1957 je blizu Celjabinska(Mayak),ne Cernobilja bila nesreca gde se izbacio Plutonijum i u radijusu od 50km ljudima su otpadale ruke,koza se ljustila,tako da je ovako cak proslo i mnogo bolje nego sto je moglo...

Mislim da nije bilo sabotaze, vrsili su experiment sa reaktorom koji je od pocetka pokazivao neke manjkavosti i nedoslednosti u radu, sto je uz losu procenu dovelo do katastrofe. To je vec hiljadu puta prezvakana tema i nikada do sada nisam cuo teoriju o sabotazi, ni iz zapadnih ni iz ruskih izvora.

tvoj odgovor je potpuno opravdan i logican,ali SOVJETI nikada nisu pricali mnogo o tome da se ne bi saznalo previse o Duga sistemima,a AMERI nisu to pricali upravo zato sto su znali da ako oni ocrne Cernobilj sa svojim CNNom da ce onda i njima da se pojave anti-nuklaerni hipici i ostali sljam satkan upravo kod njih...
ovo ti je grub odgovor,a ako oces da ti kompletno objasnim sva ta sranja,reci...
stvar je u tome sto pre Cernoblija sci su obozavali Nuklaernu tehnologiju...nigde se u svetu nije brinulo o bezbednosti koliko je trebalo...cak ni 1/4...
amerika nije ni znala da od plutonijuma mogu da otpadaju ruke,nisu ni postojali savetnici za bezbednost...prodavala se "specijalna lekovita radioaktivna voda",svi su obozavali radijaciju...znam da zvuci cudno,ali sve mozes da proveris-svi su voleli nukalernu tehnologiju.smatralo se da do nuklaerne nezgode moze doci samo u 1:1000000000 ma kakva da je elektrana ma gde sa ma kojim reaktorom.
sto se tice reaktora,bio je ispravan-znam tu pricu sa manom,ai ona je servirana malo od vojski malo od naucnika da bi se izbegle posledice kao sto su gubljenje radnika,omrazenost,ukidanje dozvola za rad,demontiranje elektrana ne druge lokacije...zvuci cudno,ali niko nije hteo da se narodi previse informisu jer maltene nije bilo zemlje koja nije imala nuklaerni reaktor u bilo kom vidu...inace bi ameri vrlo rado ceo svet napunili sa pricama o Dugi...
znaci:Sovjeti nisu pricali jer bi se previse znalo za radar,cak i samo znanje za postojanje tolikog sistema je suvisnoko zna,zna.sto vise ljudi ne zna,to bolje...a ameri nisu pricali jer su znali da ako Cernobilj ocrne da ce ocrniti sebe jer su imali nuklaernih elektrana skoro kao Rusi i imali bi nerede na ulicama ako bi narod saznao koliku vecu stetu moze da napravi kvar nego sto se misli...

Nije sporno da su ameri znali za stetnost nuklearnih elektrana ako dodje do sranja, imali su i oni jednu nesrecu tokom pedesetih, ali sa daleko manje posledica po okolinu jer se nije urusila zgrada tako da je kontaminacija zadrzana unutar zgrade. Sto se tice radara svi kojima je bilo u interesu da znaju za njega, znali su, tu pre svega mislim na amere, takva "igracka" nije mogla da se sakrije niti su to rusi pokusavali. Same dimenzije radara su bile takve da ga je nemoguce sakriti, a zracenje koje emituje je lako detektovati.
Bezbednost u elektranama je svuda u svetu bio i jos uvek je prioritet, samo sto to kod rusa nije bas bilo tako zbog unistene ekonomije i loseg odrzavanja, kao i skarta u proizvodnji vitalnih sistema za hladjenje reaktora i dr.
Sve u svemu, mislim da je mogucnost da je doslo do sabotaze nikakva, i da je zvanicna verzija koja i potice od tada zvanicne Moskve, zaista i istinita.

CItat: "Teroije i fokazi kazu da je Cernobilj sabotaza,kako bi se zatvorio Duga3 kako bi americki stealth avioni mogli da udju u inace nekada neprobojan Sovjetski savez i spijuniraju Moskvu kao i neke tajne gradove u kakve je donekle spadao i Pripjat.mnogi svetski eksperti i vojni zvanicnici su potvrdili da je Duga3 uvek bio trn u oku americkim obavestajnim sluzbama,a mnogi koji su radili bilo gde u ZONI zajedno sa jos nekim zvanicnicima tvrde da je CernobiljNPP namerno sabotiran."

Koji Americki stealth avioni? Ako se ne varam u to vreme je postojao samo polu-stealt avion F-117 koji nije ni priblizno spijunski.

Citat: "Sovjeti nisu pricali jer bi se previse znalo za radar,cak i samo znanje za postojanje tolikog sistema je suvisnoko zna,zna.sto vise ljudi ne zna,to bolje...a ameri nisu pricali jer su znali da ako Cernobilj ocrne da ce ocrniti sebe jer su imali nuklaernih elektrana skoro kao Rusi i imali bi nerede na ulicama ako bi narod saznao koliku vecu stetu moze da napravi kvar nego sto se misli..."

Sovijeti u to doba i onako nisu nista pricali za javnost, a toliku antenu nisu mogli da sakriju od javnost sigurno samo sto narod (zbog straha od komunisticke vlasti i KGB-a) u SSSR-u tada nije smeo ni da pisne o tome jer su znali sta bi ih onda snaslo.I verujem da su Ameri zahvaljujuci satelitima imali snimke i svakog srafa na toj anteni.

Tako da sve u svemu verujem da nikakve zavere tu nema tj. da je to samo cista propaganda.Rusi su u slucaju Cernobilj nesto gadno "zajebali" sto ce se kasnije videti da im to nece biti zadnji put da nesto "opasno zeznu"

Амери су у то време имали U2,SR71 Blackbird и шпијунске сателите.

U2  и SR71 Blackbird нису били стелт авиони.

Upravo zato mi je pomalo smesna receniac "Teroije i dokazi kazu da je Cernobilj sabotaza,kako bi se zatvorio Duga3 kako bi americki stealth avioni mogli da udju u inace nekada neprobojan Sovjetski savez i spijuniraju Moskvu" kao razlog za sabotazuJel stelt tehnologija je tek pocela da se razvija.Sa U-2 znamo sta se desilo kad je pokusao da spijunira Ruse, a za SR-71 i satelite dzaba im je taj sistem odbrane.Zbog toga milslim da Ameri nisu imali zasto da sabotiraju Cernobilj jer im upste nije smetao ni on ni "DUGA".Bio bi i to prevelik rizik za njih u dobu "Haldnog rata" koji je tada trajao.

I, uzgred, dzaba SSSR-u takva tehnologija kad su dozvolili da ih jedna Cesnica zavrne