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According to Caine's own recounting, his mother, Eve, was created to be a help mate to Adam, and had brought the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to him in her effort to fulfill that duty. She and Adam ate of the Fruit, believing that Knowledge of Good and Evil was Adam's birthright as the first Son of God. Cast from Eden, they lived in its shadow, and Eve soon bore Caine and Abel. Adam gave each of his sons a birthright: to Caine, the knowledge of plants, herbs, and growing things; to Abel, the mastery over animals. When the time came to sacrifice to God, Abel chose the finest among his animals, and Caine his choicest crops. But Caine's crops were not a pure sacrifice, as Caine's ability to grow and harvest them was born of God's curse upon Adam: that he should toil in the dust of the Earth. Abel's mastery over the animals came from God's gift of the same skill to Adam, and this made his sacrifice pure. Caine demanded answers from his father, and from God, but it was Abel who provided the understanding: God would accept no impure sacrifice; only the best of what Caine loved, which was not born of a curse, would be accepted. For Caine, that meant only one thing: his beloved younger brother.

Being cast out by God for doing as he was told caused Caine great bitterness, and he spat upon the Earth, disdaining and forever relinquishing his mastery over plants and herbs. He wandered, alone, heartbroken and in pain, until he found himself in the lands of Nod, east of Eden. There he met Lilith, his father's first wife and created in the same manner as Adam, who was cast from Eden for daring to question God and attempt to claim her birthright, rather than be subservient to Him and Adam. She gave Caine succor and showed him the power she had found, and Caine, desiring that power, fed on Lilith's blood to gain it. He then fled her house rather than battle her rage and continued his journey alone. Among his newfound powers were invincibility against Adam's descendants, great speed and strength, ability to manipulate time, shadows, flesh and mind; these powers would later evolve into the Disciplines which his childer would wield, although with far less potency than Caine possessed.

At this point, Caine was visited by the archangels Michael, Gabriel, and Uriel, each in their turn and offering Caine salvation if he would but seek forgiveness from God for murdering his brother. Caine rejected each offer, feeling that God was a hypocrite and that he was the wronged party; enraged by his lack of humility and the bitter defiance he showed them and God, each angel cursed Caine:

Michael cursed Caine to forever fear fire;

Gabriel cursed him to be unable to dwell in sunlight and to live forever in darkness;

Uriel cursed him threefold: to be neither living nor dead, walking unchanging, undying, in darkness and without hope; to subsist on blood, hungering for it without mercy; and that his children would turn upon each other, so that he must know what it is to condemn his own children as God had done.
When finally Raphael, archangel of healing came to him, he offered a path to redemption called Golconda, on which Caine could find peace if he chose. These curses altered Caine into the first vampire.

Ceo mit o vampirima me je zaintrigirao, pa sam naisao na vise izvora o tome kako su nastali. Jedan od njih je nasiroko poznat mit o Vlad Drakulu, velmozi iz Rumunije koji je stvarno postojao i pio krv svojim zrtvama i odrzavao krvave orgije u svom zamku, nije ni cudi sto je posluzio kao inspiracija za takvu temu. Drugi je nesto manje poznat o Judi Iskariotu koji je kazenjen zato sto je izdao Isusa za 11 srebrnjaka (navodno su zato vampiri osetljivi na srebro). Treci je ovaj, koji je moj favorit, o Kainu koji je proklet zbog ubistva svog brata, a slabosti (na suncevu svetlost i sl.) su usledile kasnije, kao posledica prokletstava.

Interesuje me vase misljenje o datoj prici?

Koga interesuje detaljnije cela stvar, moze procitati i ostatak texta na: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caine_(World_of_Darkness)

Hmm.....jel to onaj lik iz Igrice ...kako se bese zove..ebiga...onaj sto hoda u dva sveta ....imao je krila pa mu kain saseko?

igrica - Soul Reaver
lik na koga aludiras - Raziel
Ne to je skrooooooz druga prica.

Ovaj zaplet je koriscen za igru Vampres Bloodlines Masquerade! Prilozena slika je screenshot iz te igre. Imam ih jos, ali su malo spuki, pa ne bih da plasim ljude

Dooobro mozda malo

Bloodlines је одлична игра, а она сама је много, много ужи део целине зване "Вампир-Маскарада". То је ваљда настало као стони РПГ. Читао сам мало о томе и за похвалу је како су све те ствари укомпоновали у историју света. Ствараоцима игре свак част за познавање историје, митологије, антропологије и религије. Много ми је бољи тај фазон него се триповати да си неки вилењак, орк или шта већ.


Вероватно су слична бића постојала и код других народа, али оно што ми данас сматрамо вампиром је потекло из словенских легенди. Сама реч вампир, која је иста на готово свим западним језицима је узета из српског језика. На руском се чини ми се каже упир. Слично је и на другим словнеским језицима.

Da znam, oprostite za lapsus. Ja prvi nisam trebao da napravim gresku, kada sam igru presao po 10ti jubilarnu put pre neki dan.

Ја сам је прешао 3 или 4 пута и до сад сам био убеђен да сам луд, али кад станем до тебе испаде да сам мало дете. Стварно је игра сјајна, ја отприлике узмем да играм само 5-6 игара годишње (ту укључујући нови ПЕС и нови НФС, сваке године), а вежем се за једну-две отприлике.


Да више не скрећем са теме (мада је сама тема везана за игру ), препоручио би ти класику - гугл, slav mythology, па ћеш већ ваљда наћи нешто.

Nisam od sada cuo za ovu legendu o vampirima. Mislim da kain iz Leacy Of Cain serijala vuce korene iz mita o Kainu i Avelju. Svida mi se mit i mislim da ima vise smisla nego mit o Vlad Drakuli   

To je ono sto me je uopste privuklo prici. Stvaro ima vise smisla, imamo bar razlog i realniji sled dogadjaja.
Sto se tice Vlada - zar je moguce da se jedino on drznuo da "okrene ledja" Bogu, postajali su i u to vreme Satanisticki kultovi, kako oni nisu nista postigli...

Да, али ако изузмеш ту измишљену страну приче, онда то и нема неке везе са хришћанским Богом и проклетством. Вампири су митска бића која потичу из старословенских паганских легенди.

Meni se jako svidja taj World of Darnkess svet ( ) i njegova prica.

Pogotovo klanovi. Ja bih licno najverovatnije ispao Brujah ili Toreador. Mada moj psihijatar kaze da mi vise pase Malkavian (zajebavam se).

A od svih klanova, najvise me fascinira Tzimisce klan. Takav sam, fasciniraju me grotektne (ili kako god se pise) stvari.