Visa a?A da se Srbija malo zalaze za drzavu siptara u Makedoniji,posto bi po principu Kosova moglo i tamo da se delovi drzave sa vecim manjinskim stanovnistvom  izjasnjava?Kako bi bilo Makedoncima?

Vidi ovako. Vec sam napisao da ce Kosovsko pitanje biti reseno daleko od ovih prostora. Niti Srbija niti Makedonija nema nikakve mogucnosti da nesto promeni. Ja sam rekao da je nezavisno Kosovo lose za region, ali jebi ga to je sto je.
A sto se tice "zalaganja" Srbije, vec se dovoljno zalagala, tako da nista novo.

Шта ће бити са Македонијом?
Када се враћате у наше наручје?

Onda bar cutite,ne dolivajte ulje,mada kazem,nisu Makedonci krivi sto Srbija ne ume da reaguje na pravi nacin,nego cuti kao p.na takve poruke iz komsiluka.

Не, перверзне игре су оно што Бугари раде са вама већ 60 година најмање!!!
Српски политичари бре нису способни да очисте канал у Војводини а не да се бакћу са перверзним играма око Македоније!!!

Народ у Србији је био уз вас док сте гинули од шиптара. А ви се бусате у груди како ћете први да признате КиМ!!! Не, пријатељу ви нас губите а не ми вас.

Али добро, опет класична замена теза! Јел вас то уче у основној школи?


Ма срцем можеш бити и марсовац! 


Ја стварно нисам причао о никаквом декрету. Помешао си ме са неким ко пише ћирилицу као и ја! 


По историји која се учи у целом свету, Александар Македонски је био антички Грк. Садашњи Македонци су Словени који су добили име по територији!!! Јебига али тако је!


Куга је била само једно од објашњења зашто је немогуће да су постојали антички Македонци у 7. веку нове ере!!!
Користећи сарказам и цинизам измислио си Адама и вукове. Мислим да је то јер боље и не умеш кад је та тема у питању!


Ајде ми објасни молим те ово. Жељан сам још једне теорије завере за отимање свете македонске земље од стране злих Срба којима је само то на памети!

 

Addressed to the international academic community

"Macedonian question"

The so-called "Macedonian Question", is in fact a great political and historical fraud that was deliberately fabricated by the Communists in 1944 in order to wrest Greek Macedonia from Greece and absorb it into the Communist bloc, thus breaking up the West's eastern flank and gaining control of the north Aegean seacoast.

The political motives behind the creation of this spurious Republic have been rejected by:

   1. The U.S. Roosevelt Administration which was quick to assess the true motives for setting up a "Macedonian" State and issued clear directives denouncing it. This is an excerpt from a circular by Secretary of State Stettinius (See Document 1 Circular Airgram #868.014/26 Dec. 1944)

          "This Government considers talk of Macedonian "nation", Macedonian "Fatherland", or Macedonian "national consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece. The approved policy of this Government is to oppose any revival of the Macedonian issue as related to Greece".

   2. The Truman Administration, by means of the Truman Doctrine and the help of the American taxpayers, along with the sacrifices of the Greek people, the blood of hundreds of thousands of Greek dead and wounded, saved Greek Macedonia from the Communist threat.

      President George Bush acknowledged these sacrifices before the Greek Parliament in 1991, by stating that Greece single handedly put a stop to Soviet expansionism at that terrible time.
   3. President Bill Clinton on October 2 1992, before the elections, confirming his predecessor's stance he stated: "The United States position must be clear. If the southernmost former Yugoslav Republic wishes to receive American recognition, it must first accept the principles of the Helsinki Final Act, satisfy its neighbors and the world community that its intentions are peaceful and abide by the European Community's decision which rejects the use of the name Macedonia. A Clinton Administration will stand by these principles and ensure that Greece's legitimate concerns are met".
   4. On June 19 1992, at a Managers Conference in Paris, Dr. Henry Kissinger made a statement about Greece's demand that Skopje should not be allowed to use the name "Macedonia". He said "I believe that Greece is right to object and I agree with Athens. The reason is that I know History which is not the case with most of the others including most in the Government and Administration in Washington. The strength of the Greek case is that of the History which must say that Athens have not used so far with success" (See Document No 2).
   5. Newspapers of international repute, such as "The New York Times", espoused similar positions. Note, for example, the following article published on July 16 1946: "During the occupation... a combined effort was made to wrest Macedonia from Greece - an effort that allegedly continues, although in altered form... The main conspiratorial activity in Macedonia today appears to be directed from Skopje" (See Document No 3).

The Macedonian Question, is more than a mere squabble over a name. It is a well-designed scheme for annexing the northern Greek provinces of Macedonia  and Thrace. It started during the inter-war period, by the decisions of the Comintern and the Balkan communist parties seeking to establish a united (Macedonian and Thracian) State. Subsequently it was Tito, in 1944, who tried to establish such a State within Yugoslavia. He changed the name of Southern Serbia (which had been known as Vardashka since 1913) to "Macedonia" and then proceeded to establish, out of the Slavs of the region (Bulgarians and Serbs), a new Slavic nation inappropriately called "Macedonian" (See Document No 4).

To transform this theoretical concept into a political reality Tito:

   1. Concocted in 1944 a "Macedonian government" as a first step to the setting up of a Socialist Republic of Macedonia".
   2. Dubbed the local Slavonic dialect "Macedonian language". A special committee worked for years to turn this dialect into the "official Macedonian language".
   3. In 1968 the "Macedonian Church" came into being irregularly, by a government coup. As a result, it was not recognized as a formal Church by any Orthodox Patriarchs or by the Vatican.
   4. In 1969, the "History of the Macedonian nation" was published. Any reference in the world's archives to Macedonia and to historical figures and historical events connected in any way with Macedonia over the millennia, was manipulated and forcibly given a "Macedonian (Slavic) identity".

Thus, politicians and historians collaborated:

   1. to usurp the name, the emblems, and the history of Macedonia;
   2. to set in motion expansionist aspirations, by renaming Greek Macedonia as "Aegean Macedonia", i.e. part of a united Macedonia and issued maps limiting Greece's northern frontiers to Mount Olympus;
   3. to allege the existence of a "Macedonian minority" in Greece.

Their theoretical basis for these claims was based on the assertion that:

   1. The ancient Macedonians, Alexander the Great, the Ptolemies, etc. were not Greeks  (an allegation which is repeated in the recent FYROM's school textbooks for 1992-3). See also attached extracts from the book of Evangelos Kofos "The vision of Greater Macedonia" (See Document No 5).
   2. After the arrival of Slavic tribes in the Balkans in the 6th century AD those Slavs, that managed to reach the Byzantine Provinces of Ancient Macedonia, intermarried with the local non-Greek Macedonians and thus they formed a new ethnic group, the "Slavo Macedonians" who subsequently were simply referred to as "Macedonians".

World history does not record a similar case of usurpation of a people's name and history by another group of people.

Lack of the slightest credibility on the part of the pseudo-Macedonian "nation" of Skopje is furthermore revealed by the single fact that Skopje's Bulgarians and Serbs discovered only after 1944 that back in the sixth century they had been transformed from Slavs into Macedonians.

To claim that the Ancient Macedonians were not Greeks, however, and to use the term "Slav" with reference to the creation of the "Macedonian nation" is a trick.

The "Macedonian Nation" does not, nor did it ever exist. The Macedonians were Greeks, they spoke the same language and worshipped the same gods (who were inhabiting the Macedonian mountain of Olympus) and performed the same sacrifices, in the same sanctuaries as all the other Greeks.

The Macedonians, together with the rest of Greeks, possess according to Herodotus, the kind and constituent element that composed a nation:

    "And next the kinship of all Greeks in blood and speech, and the shrines of gods and the sacrifices that we have in common and the likeness of our way of life " Herodotus, History VIII, 144,2 (Loeb, A.D. Godley) .

Цане,
пошто си запео за декрет (а пренесено значење ти није јача страна), пуцаш около насумце и не смирујеш се, ево ти најпрецизнијег податка: македонска нација призната је Уставом Југославије од 31. јануара 1946.

Славите ви Илиндан колико хоћете,али ако Македонија призна независност Космета буди сигуран да ниједан македонски политичар или грађанин неће крочити у Прохор Пчињски до краја вечности!
A да не причам како ће се то одразити на то "(не)пријатељство" о којем ти причаш!

То Срби неће заборавити никада!

И,у праву си!Неко одозго све то види!

E tu si se druze zajebo.
Makedonci su bili uz vas dok vas je NATO bombardovao.
Jedino u Skoplju je zapaljena americka ambasada i jedino iz Makedonije svaki dan su polazili autobusi za Beograd kada ste stojili na mostovima.
Skoro celokupna Makedonska estrada je pevala na tim koncertima.
Kako sto rekoh Srbija sa politokom koju danas vodi, svakoga dana gubi prijatelje u Makedoniji.



Da se ne ponavljam procitaj gore odgovor, samo cu ponoviti da neko od gore vidi sve i upitati te da ne mozda pretis necime 




 
Ajde prvo razlitaj Teoriju prava, cisto da bi uvideo kakav dokument je Ustav, sta se njime uredjuje i koje mesto zauzima u hierarhiji pravnih propisa jedne drzave.
Ustav iz '46 je prvi ustav bivse Yuge, mislim da je u to vreme bila FNRJ.




Ako je tako onda sorry