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Revelation 22:16

16: "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, angels were all created good but some turned bad on their own. Angels don't need faith as they already have the knowledge of celestial things, so their rebellion against God constituted unforgivable sin. Mat 12:32 qualifies unforgivable sin as being unforgivable in "this age or the age to come", although not all Christians interpret this to mean that those who have committed this sin may be redeemed after the passage of two ages. A tradition stretching back as far as Gregory of Nyssa and Origen has taught that the devil and fallen angels will eventually be saved.




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vodjen kod psihijatra i ustanovljeno mu je odlicno psiho stanje i da su halucinacije moguce zbog nedostatka sna.

A koji psihijatar ili psiholog je dovoljno kompetentan da procenjuje necije mentalno stanje?
Dobro je poznata stvar da i danas postoje delovi ljudskog mozga cija funkcija je jednostavno nepoznata. Mozda nesto nije u redu sa nekim od tih delova mozga. Doslo je do greske koju mi jos uvek ne mozemo da shvatimo.

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Evo nesto o entitetima. Jedna grupa je poznata kao djavoli, demoni, sile mraka...

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The Fallen Angels
The Dictionary of Angels created an amazing list of the angels that fell - it took nine days - from heaven, a third of the heavenly hosts (says Revelation).

De Spina is elsewhere quoted as numbering the fallen angels at 133,306,668, a figure so precise that one hardly knows what to say.

The Book of Enoch says there were 200 but lists far fewer. The dictionary lists just over 100 names culled from I Enoch, the Apocrypha, the Cabala, goetic, rabbinic, patristic, and other writings. Here they are as they appear in the appendix there:

Abbadona (once one of the seraphim).
Adramelec.
Agares (Agreas).
Amezyarak (Amiziras; also alternate for Semyaza).
Amy (once partly of the order of powers and partly of the order of angels).
Anmael (identiefied with Semyaza)
Arakiel (Araqiel)
Araziel.
Ariel (once of the order of virtues).
Arioc(h)
Armaros (Abaros, Armers, Pharmaros).
Armen
Artaqifa (Arakiba).
Asbeel
Asmoday
Asmodeus (Sammeal) (once of the order of seraphim).
Astaroth (once of the order of seraphim and of thrones).
Astoreth (Astarte).
Atarculph.
Auza (Oza).
Azaradel.
Azazel (once of the order of cherubim).
Azza (once the angel of justice)
Azzael (Asael)
Balam (once of the order of dominations).
Baraqel (Barakel, Baraqijal).
Barbatos (once of the order of virtues).
Barbiel (once of the order of virtues).
Batarjal.
Beelzebub (once of the order of cherubim).
Beliar (Belial) (onced partly of the order of virtues and partly of the order of angels).
Busasejal.
Byleth (Beleth) (once of the order of powers).
Balberith (once of the order of cherubim).
Caim (Caym) (once of the order of angels).
Carnivean (once of the order of powers).
Carreau (once of the order of powers).
Dagon.
Danjal.
Ezekeel (Ezequeel).
Flaurus (Hauras).
Gaap (once of the order of thrones).
Gadreel.
Gressil (once of the order of thrones).
Hakael.
Hananel (Ananel).
Harut (Persian).
Iblis (Eblis, Haris) (Mohammedan Satan).
Ielahiah (once of the order of virtues).
Iuvart (once of the order of angels).
Jeqon.
Jetrel.
Kasdeja.
Kawkabel (Kokabel).
Lau(v)iah (once partly of the order of thrones and partly of the order of cherubim).
Leviathan (once partly of the order of seraphim).
Lucifer (often, but erroneously, identified as Satan).
Mammon.
Marchosias (once of the order of domination)
Marut (Persian).
Mephistopheles.
Meresin.
Moloc(h).
Mulciber.
Murmur (once partly of the order of thrones and partly of the order of angels).
Nelchael (once of the order of thrones).
Nilaihah (once of the order of dominations).
Oeillet (once of the order of dominations).
Olivier (once of the order of archangels).
Ouzza (Usiel).
Paimon (Paymon) (once of the order of dominations).
Penemue.
Procell (once of the order of powers).
Pursan (Curson) (once of the order of virtues).
Raum (Raym) (once of the order of thrones).
Rimmon.
Rosier (once of the order of dominations).
Rumael (Ramiel or Remiel).
Sammael (Satan, Asmodeus).
Samsaweel.
Saraknyal.
Sariel.
Satan.
Sealiah (once of the order of virtues).
Semyaza (Shemhazai, Azaziel) (once of the order of seraphim).
Senciner (once partly of the order of virtues and partly of the order of powers).
Shamshiel.
Simapesiel.
Sonneillon (once of the order of thrones).
Tabaet.
Thammuz.
Tumael.
Turael.
Turel.
Urakabarameel.
Usiel (Uzziel) (once of the order of virtues).
Verrier (once of the order of principalities).
Verrine (once of the order of thrones).
Vual (Vvall) (once of the order of powers).
Yomyael.
Zavebe.
Belphegor (Baal-Peor) (once of the order of principalities).
Forcas (Foras)

The Ranks of Hell
Just as archangels and angels, Dominions, Principalities, and Powers are in heaven, so it is said demons and devils are in hierarchy of hell, Princes, Ministers, Ambassadors, Justices, The House of Princes, and the Trivial Spirits, Alphonsus de Spina (who brought into Christianity a lot of Jewish lore) says there are ten orders of demons. Some other authorities say there are nine orders of devils, some six, some four.

This was an idea that was especially appealing to the hierarchical mind-set of the Middle Ages. At the top is God's Adversary himself, Satan. At various times he is confused with Lucifer, The Angel of Light, The Prince of Darkness, The Dark Angel, and others but it is Satan we usually mean when we speak of The Devil. All others are demons, not devils, though our language tends to regard devils and demons as synonymous.

Here are the principal personages in the infernal kingdom, in alphabetical order, because there is some disagreement about their exact placement.

What is more interesting than that, however, is how it is imagined that the kingdom of hell mirrors other kingdoms. It is also interesting how and why students of demonology hit upon the very specific numbers of infernal legions commanded by this or that power.

Mark V:7 says Christ was attacked by a legion of demons in the form of pigs. They were drowned.

But to our hierarchy: Here, collected from a number of sources, is probably the most complete - I do not claim 'the most accurate' - list to be found anywhere:

Abaddon King of Demons. Better known by his Greek name Apollyon.
Abigor A horseman with a lance and scepter, commanding 60 legions of devils.
Adramelech Chancellor of Hell and President of The High Council of Devils.
Aguares Grand Duke of Eastern Hell, commanding 30 legions of devils.

Alocer Grand Duke of Hell, commanding 36 legions of devils.
Amduscias Grand Duke of Hell, commanding 29 legions, popular with black magicians. 
Andras Marquis of Hell, commanding 30 legions of devils.
Asmodeus Head of the Casinos of Hell, banished to the desert by Raphael.
Astaroth Grand Duke of Western Hell, Lord Treasurer of Hell.

Astarte One of a number of heathen gods and goddesses sometimes consigned to Hell.
Aym Grand Duke of Hell, commanding 26 legions of demons. Also Haborym.
Ayperos Prince of Hell, commanding 36 legions of devils.
Azazel Standard Bearer of the armies of Hell. Also Satanael.
Baal Commanding General of the Infernal Armies.
Baalberith Chief Secretary and Archivist of Hell, a second-order demon. Also Berith.
Balan Prince of Hell.
Bearded Demon, the His name cannot be given lest people deal with him in search of the Philosopher's Stone (as King Solomon and Paracelsus are said to have done).
Beelzebub Prince of Demons, Lord of the Flies, second only to Satan.
Belial Prince of Trickery, Demon of Sodomy, sometimes called The Antichrist. It is likely he is also the one called Zephar by the German demonologist Weir.
Belphegor Demon of Ingenious Discoveries and Wealth.
Buer Second-order demon but commanding 50 legions of devils.
Caym Grand President of Hell
Charon Boatman of Hell who ferries souls across the Styx or Archeron
Chax Grand Duke of Hell. Also Scox.
Cresil Demon of impurity and slovenliness (according to Sebastien Michaelis, 1613). 
Dagon Baker of Hell, member of the House of Princes.
Eurynomus Prince of Hell who feeds on corpses.
Furfur Count of Hell, commanding 26 legions of demons.
Geryon Giant centaur who (Dante said) guards Hell. Others say the guardian is a dragon.
Hecate Queen of the witches.
Jezebeth Demon of Falsehoods.
Kasdeya According to The Book of Enoch (LXIX:12) 'the fifth Satan.'
Kobal Entertainment Director of Hell, patron of comedians
Leonard Inspector-General of Black Magic and Sorcery, The Great Negro of the witches' sabbats as a giant black goat. In Germany, Urian.
Leviathan Grand Admiral of Hell; androgynous, he is said to have seduced both Adam and Eve.
Lilith Princess of Hell, first wife of Adam.
Malphas Grand President of Hell, commanding 40 legions of devils. Same as Caym? 
Mammon A word misunderstood was personified as the Demon of Avarice.
Mastema Leader of the offspring of fallen angels by human beings.
Melchom Treasurer of the House of the Princes of Hell.
Mephistopheles In some versions, servant of Lucifer, in others, The Devil himself. 
Merihim Prince of Pestilence.
Moloch Another demon inherited from Jewish belief.
Mullin Servant of the House of Princes, lieutenant to Leonard.
Murmur Count of Hell, Demon of Music.
Naburus Marquis of Hell, connected with Cerberus.
Nergal Chief of Secret Police of Hell, a second-order demon, married to Allotu.
Nybras Grand Publicist of the Pleasures of Hell, an inferior demon.
Nysrogh Chief of the House of Princes of Hell, a second order demon.
Orias Marquis of Hell, Demon of Diabolic Astrologers and Diviners.
Orthon A minor demon familiar to the Comte de Corasse and the Comte de Foix. Another personal demon known by name is Sybacco, rather unreliably said to have attended Adriano Lemmi, connected with the alleged Satanic-Masonic cult of Palladinism in 19th century Italy and then there are all sorts of demons (usually with French names) that possessed French nuns, etc.
Paymon Master of Ceremonies of Hell.
Philotanus Demon assisting Belial in furthering pederasty and sodomy.
Proserpine In some accounts, Princess of Hell.
Pyro Prince of Falsehood.
Raum Count of Hell, commanding 30 legions of demons.
Rimmon Ambassador from Hell to (Czarist) Russia, Chief Physician of Hell. Also Damas.
Ronwe Minor demon commanding 19 legions of devils.
Samael Angel of Death, Prince of the Air, perhaps the one who tempted Eve. 
Semiazas Chief of the Fallen Angels.
Shabriri Demon who struck people blind. The Jews also had goat demons (Schirim, Seirim), demon monsters (Behemoth, Leviathan), and Lilim, Nazzikim, Ruchoth, and many more.
Sonneillon Demon of Hate (Michaelis).
Succorbenoth Chief Eunuch of the House of Princes, Demon of Gates and Jealousy.
Thamuz Ambassador of Hell, Creator of The Holy Inquisition, Investor of Artillery. 
Ukobach Stationary Engineer of Hell, Inventor of Fireworks, maybe Cooking Out. 
Uphir Head of the HMO of Hell, Demon physician and apothecary.
Valafar Grand Duke of Hell 'in charge' say Tondriau and Villeneuve (1972) 'of good relations among brigands.'
Verdelet Master of Ceremonies of the House of the Princes of Hell.
Verin Demon of Impatience.
Vetis A devil who specializes in tempting and corrupting the holy.
Xaphan Stokes the furnaces of Hell, a second-order demon.
Zaebos One of the many animal-human combinations in Hebrew imitation of the Sumerians. This one is part crocodile, part human.
Zagam Demon of Deceit and Counterfeiting. He can do Christ's first miracle, changing water into wine.

In the list above the information allegedly was revealed by Baalberith to Soeur Madeleine de Demandoix in the early 17th century. She had pretty familiar names in her first hierarchy but her second (Carreau, Carnivean, Oeillet, Rosier, Verrier) and their hierarchy (Belial, Olivier, Juvart) look incredibly French.

My list is long enough, though if Weir (who wrote in the 16th century) is to be believed, Hell has 66 princes, each commanding 6,666 legions, each legion comprising 6,666 devils. That would amount to about half the world's populations in his time. This looks suspiciously like a riff on the number of the Beast of The Apocalypse, 666, which some cabalists say is 600 (false religion), 60 (greed), and 6 (this world).

It might be added that some devils or demons refuse to give their names even when summoned by magical means because in their names is power. On the other hand, having a name always makes communications of any sort easier.



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"some devils or demons refuse to give their names even when summoned by magical means because in their names is power."
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  Woman the Cause of Fall.
 
In Apocalyptic Writings. The conception of fallen angels—angels who, for wilful, rebellious conduct against God, or through weakness under temptation.thereby forfeiting their angelic dignity, were degraded and condemned to a life of mischief or shame on earth or in a place of punishment—is wide-spread. Indications of this belief, behind which probably lies the symbolizing of an astronomical phenomenon, the shooting stars, are met with in Isa. xiv. 12 (comp. Job xxxviii. 31, 32; see Constellations). But it is in apocalyptic writings that this notion assumes crystallized definiteness and is brought into relations with the theological problem of the origin and nature of evil and sin. That Satan fell from heaven with the velocity of lightning is a New Testament conception (Luke x. 18; Rev. xii. 7-10). Originally Satan was one of God's angels, Lucifer, who, lusting for worldly power, was degraded. Samael (Yalk., Gen. 25), originally the chief of the angels around God's throne, becomes the angel of death and the "chieftain of all the Satans" (Deut. R. xi. ; comp. Matt. xxv. 41).

But it is especially Samḥazai and Azael of whom the fall is narrated. In Targ. Pseudo-Jonathan to Gen. vi. 4 they appear as the "nefilim" (A. V. "giants"), undoubtedly in consequence of an incorrect interpretation of this word as "those that fell from heaven." The story of these two angels is found in brief form in Yalḳ., Gen. 44; it has been published by Jellinek ("B. H." iv. 127; originally in Midrash Abkir; comp. Rashi, Yoma 67b; Geiger, "Was Hat Mohammed aus dem Judenthume Aufgenommen?" p. 107).

As in the case of man, so in that of the angels woman was the cause of the lapse. Naamah, the wife of Noah (Gen. R. xxiii. 3), was one of the women whose great beauty tempted the angels to sin (Naḥmanides to Gen. iv. 22). As regards Azazel and Samḥazai, mentioned above, it was a young woman named  ("Isṭar," "Esther") that proved fatal to their virtue. These angels, seeing God's grief over the corruption of the sons of men (Gen. vi. 2-7), volunteered to descend to earth for the purpose of proving their contention that, as they had foretold at the creation of Adam, the weakness of man (Ps. viii. 5) was alone responsible for his immorality. In their new surroundings they themselves yielded to the blandishments of women. Samḥazai especially became passionately enamored of Isṭar. She, however, would yield to his importunities only on the condition that he tell her the name of Yhwh (see God, Names of), by virtue of which he was éo return to heaven. As soon as she was possessed of the secret, she rose to heaven herself, and God rewarded her constancy by assigning her a place in the constellation of Kimah. Samḥazai and his companion thereupon took to themselves wives and begat children (comp. the bene Elohim, Gen. vi. 4). Meṭaṭron soon after sends word to Samḥazai concerning the approaching flood. This announcement of the world's and his own children's impending doom brings Samḥazai to repentance, and he suspends himself midway between heaven and earth, in which penitent position he has remained ever since. Azazel, who deals in rich adornments and fine garments for women, continues in his evil ways, seducing men by his fanciful wares (hence the goat sent to Azazel on the Day of Atonement).

Variants of this story are not rare. According to Pirḳe R. El. xxii., "the angels that fell from heaven," seeing the shameless attire of the men and women in Cain's family, had intercourse with the women, and in consequence were deprived of their garment of flaming fire and were clothed in ordinary material of dust. They also lost their angelic strength and stature. Samael was the leader of a whole band of rebellious angels .

In the Book of Enoch eighteen angels are named as chief participators in the conspiracy to mate with women. Samiaza is the leader, and Azael is one of the number . Azael, however, imparts to men all sorts of useful as well as secret knowledge and the art of beautifying eyes .
 
 
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