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Vietkong  -  Mặt trận Dân tộc Giải phóng miền Nam Việt Nam icon_2gun

The National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam (Vietnamese Mặt trận Dân tộc Giải phóng miền Nam Việt Nam), also known as the Việt Cộng pronunciation , VC, or the National Liberation Front (NLF), was an insurgent (partisan) organization fighting the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) during the Vietnam War. The NLF was funded, equipped and staffed by both South Vietnamese and the army of North Vietnam.

Its military organization was known as the People's Liberation Armed Forces (PLAF). The PLAF were, according to the official history of the Vietnam People's Army, strictly subordinated to the general staff in Hanoi. Their name "Việt Cộng", (VC) came from the Vietnamese term for Vietnamese Communist (Việt Nam Cộng Sản) and was popularized by the South Vietnamese government in an effort to downplay the NLF's role as a truly national, not simply communist organization. American forces typically referred to members of the NLF as "Charlie", which comes from the US Armed Forces' phonetic alphabet's pronunciation of VC ("Victor Charlie")

The NLF was nominally independent of the North Vietnam armed forces and although the leadership of the group was communist, the NLF was also made up of others who were allied with the Front against Ngô Ðình Diệm. The NLF was organized in 1960 at the direction of the Northern Communist Party, the Lao Dong, which in 1962, also formed a communist southern party, the People's Revolutionary Party (PRP). Ultimate control of the PRP, NLF and associated front organizations rested with the Northern Lao Dong party throughout the conflict. As the war with the Americans progressed, North Vietnamese personnel increasingly formed the military staff and officer corps of the NLF as well as directly deploying their own forces. Vietnam People's Army's (PAVN) official history refers to the PLAF as "part of the PAVN". Communist cadres also, from the start, formed the majority of the decision-making strata of the organization, though non-Communists, encouraged by the initial chair, Nguyễn Hữu Thọ, were also involved in this process.

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 Borba za slobodu u kojoj je stradalo više od 3 miliona ljudi...
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i ne samo rude(kojih inace vecina ima rezervi za nekoliko stotina godina exploatacije) vec mora se uzeti u obzir da Kosmet obiluje necim sto ce uskoro biti mnogo vrednije i od zlata i nafte- mnostvo izvora vode

Borba za slobodu u kojoj je stradalo više od 3 miliona ljudi...
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Bravo collosus, malosslika iz Vijetnama s druge strane. Do sada sam samo vidjao slike snimljene od strane amera. Bas bi me interesovalo da vidim snimke koje su napravili pripadnici Vietkonga.
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Lijepo lijepo. Da se malo vidi i nechija druga perspektiva po tom pitanju.
Naravno da se tamo vodio rat za slobodu pa ti Ameri su potomci najveceg evropskog sljama koji bi i rodjenu majku za pare prodao, sjetite se samo dana zahvalnosti i ironije po tom pitanju, kao se oni zahvaljuju plemenu indijanaca koje ih je hranilo par godina da bi ih jebeni puritanci zbog toga sto nisu htjeli preci na pravu stranu poklalo sve do jednog u znak zahvalnosti za sve sto su im ucinili. Gade mi se, gadi mi se to sto su radili i to sto rade. Irak su pretvorili u klanicu gdje svaki dan gine desetine i stotine nevinih civilia. Samo se nadam da ce se pojaviti neki pokret poput Vijetkonga koji ce ih osloboditi te poshasti.
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— National Security Agency officers deliberately distorted critical intelligence to cover up their mistakes.

Communications intercepted by the N.S.A., the secretive eavesdropping and code-breaking agency, were falsified so that they made it look as if North Vietnam had attacked American destroyers on Aug. 4, 1964, two days after a previous clash.
President Lyndon B. Johnson cited the supposed attack to persuade Congress to authorize broad military action in Vietnam, but most historians have concluded in recent years that there was no second attack.
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Robert S. McNamara, who as defense secretary played a central role in the Tonkin Gulf affair, said in an interview last week that he believed the intelligence reports had played a decisive role in the war's expansion.
     
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Demons of past stalk Tiger Force veterans
For Barry Bowman, the images return at night.
The elderly man praying on his knees.   The officer pointing a rifle at the man's head.   
The shot.   
That piercing shot.   
Before it's over, the old man drops to the ground — his body twitching in the blood-soaked grass.   
Over and over, Mr. Bowman relives the execution of the Vietnamese villager known as Dao Hue.
Despite years of therapy, the former Tiger Force soldier is still deeply troubled by the brutal shooting he witnessed as a young medic in the Song Ve Valley.
He's not alone.
Of the 43 former platoon members interviewed by The Blade in an eight-month investigation of Tiger Force, a dozen expressed remorse for committing or failing to stop atrocities.
They share some of the same symptoms — flashbacks or nightmares — and over the past 36 years have sought counseling, they said.
Nine have been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, a psychiatric condition that can occur following life-threatening experiences.
To this day, they wrestle with memories of Tiger Force's rampage through more than 40 hamlets in the Central Highlands of South Vietnam in 1967....




   

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