nego,dobro vam pocela sezona na moru,pa sad zovete i podmornicare da vam dodju...... 

Zali boze ako mi treba nekoga da cuvamo,ponajmanje sebe sa ovakvom avijacijom.
Steta sto ovo nikada nije napravljeno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi_Avion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1QjOxEFqOA

nasa vojska,ma kolko ocajna,i ojadjena zadnjih godina SuNATOvicevim "reformama" je i dalje sila u odnosu na ostale zemlje.Rumuni i Bugari ipak prednjace u nekim aspektima,ali zato u odnosu na ostale zemlje oko nas i dalje smo najjaci.
naravno,da se vise vodilo racuna,situacija bi bila mnogo bolja,ali,tako je kako je.
da nema NATO gamadi na Kosovu,u roku od 3 dana bi ga vratili.ali,posto ce gamad ostati tu do vecnosti,pa makar se i NATO podelio,dzaba nam sve.

i da dodam da se Novi Avion delom ugledao na Gripen,i da su po nekim karakteristikama i performansama imali dodirnih tacaka,pogotovu kada se radi o potenciranju niskih potreba za odrzavanjem i prakticnoscu ali i na francuski Rafal.

Upravo tako,samo je steta sto je lanac napredka prekinut,jel je Novi Avion trebao da omoguci Jugi da proizvodi sopstvene avione 4-te generacije,umesto da ih uvozi iz drugih zemalja,takodje to je bila 92' danas bi mozda bili na 5-toj generaciji,cak i da tako nije bilo imali bi vojsku s kojom bi se retko ko olako kacio,mi i danas imamo dobru vojsku ali smo isuvise iznureni,posle onih sranja tokom 90-tih,no to ce vremenom popraviti

pa,da bi bilo 5. generacije,tesko  ,ali,da,svakako bi mnogo mnogo znacilo i ekonomiji,i vojsci,i nauci i nasoj reputaciji,i bilo bi nam daleko bolje...

Ne budi toliko siguran  ako smo po necemu poznati to je da cinimo nemoguce bilo to dobro ili lose 

Мада је највише идеја пренето са Рафала јер је НА рађен са Французима.

Remnants of Iraq Air Force Are Found
By ROD NORDLAND

BAGHDAD — Iraqi officials have discovered that they may have an air force, after all.

The Defense Ministry revealed Sunday that it recently learned that Iraq owns 19 Russian-designed MIG-21 and MIG-23 jet fighters, which are in storage in Serbia. The ministry said Iraqi officials are negotiating with the Serbs to restore the aircraft.

The Serbian government has tentatively promised to make two of the aircraft available “for immediate use,” according to a press release from the ministry. The rest would be restored on a rush basis, the ministry said.

An Iraqi delegation went to Serbia as part of aneffort by the government to locate funds stashed abroad by Saddam Hussein to evade sanctions first imposed during the 1990’s. Serbia had had friendly relations with Mr. Hussein.

During that visit, the Iraqi officials discovered that Mr. Hussein had sent the 19 jet fighters to Serbia for repairs in the 1980’s, during the Iran-Iraq war, but was unable to bring them back after sanctions had been imposed on his country.

Iraq immediately sent a technical delegation, including air force chief Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin. The web site of the Iraqi Supreme Islamic Council, the leading Shia political party, quoted Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammed al-Askari as saying that the aircraft had been sent in 1989 “for maintenance and everything was paid for by Iraq’s money.”

Mr. Askari said the discovery was important because Iraq has no jet aircraft with defensive or offensive capabilities. “Our air force has only helicopters,” he said.

“Everyone knows how much we need fighter aircraft,” the ministry statement said. “We have reached a tentative agreement with the Serbian side to rehabilitate the aircraft and deliver them to Iraq in the shortest possible time, in recognition of Iraq’s need for such aircraft.”

The Defense Ministry statement was issued as a rebuttal to Iraqi press reports claiming secret negotiations with Serbia indicated some sort of corrupt deal.

The American military’s training command has recently arranged for the delivery of Iraq’s first jet aircraft trainer, the T-6, in December. There are no immediate plans as yet for Iraq to purchase American fighter aircraft, although the T-6 is used to train pilots for the F-16.

U.S. officials could not immediately be reached to clarify whether Iraq would continue to develop an American jet fighter capacity.

So far, the Iraqi air force has only 87 aircraft, mostly transport and reconnaissance planes and helicopters, and only one ground attack aircraft. It has no jets.

Mr. Hussein’s government, which in 1990 had the sixth largest air force in the world with 750 aircraft, lost many of its advanced MIG and French Mirage jets when the United States bombed them during Desert Storm; nearly 100 of them were flown to Iran to escape destruction, even though Iran was then an enemy of Iraq.

Iran has still not returned the aircraft, despite otherwise warm relations between the two countries now, saying they were war reparations for the Iran-Iraq war.

The Serbian discovery would potentially give Iraq a jet fighter capability long before it could develop one for American aircraft.

Iraqi officials have been hunting for missing assets in a number of countries where Mr. Hussein had made military purchases, including Egypt, Russia, France and Italy. The Serbia discovery was a result of that hunt.

The Iraqis have also found two naval vessels belonging to it in Egypt and two others in Italy, and other materiel in France and Russia, according to Mr. Askari.

In Belgrade, the B-92 independent news channel quoted officials as saying that Serbia had reached a separate arms export deal with Iraq that would result in employment for 6,000 workers in six military factories. Last year, Serbia exported $235 million worth of arms to Iraq.


nakon ovoga, veliki su izgledi da ce te ostati i bez te avijacije koju trenutno imate 

sinko,nisi u toku.
ako ne znas sve detalje oko te prodaje,postedi nas svojih lupetanja ili barem citiranja zapadnjackih medija i "strucnjaka". 

vidis da se kradja ne isplati nas ste do gole koze opljackali, ali Irak neda svoje