ne bash sasvim  . ako je verovatnoca nekog dogadjaja nula , on se nece ni desiti .

u univerzumu u kome ugljenik i vodonik tek tako <zappp>  prelaze u uranijum pri nekim sobnim uslovima (pretpostavljam da si na njih mislio) , verovatnoca nastanka slozene strukture kakva je ruke je ravna 0 . jednostavno , mozesh da prokrstarish celim takvim univerzumom i da ne nadjesh nijednu ruku  .

  vodi rachuna da je materija u pojedinachnom univerzumu ogranichana , kao i postojanje tog univerzuma , prema teoriji koju napadash .

jalalalala, ja ne mogu da verujem da pricamo o ovome ponovo, kao da izvlachite JEDAN citat, i samo se na njega koncentrishete.

shansa za dogadjaj takve vrste - nije nula. dakle - moze da se desi, manje verovatno, ali moze.

teorija multiverzuma kaze da ih ima beskonachno, dakle - MORA da se desi u jednom od njih.

jel znash kolko je beskonachno, imash li pretstavu o tome ?

dakle, ako recimo, zivis beskonacno, zamisli to. i onda - prodje 300 godina. mnogo je to zivota brale. e al - u jednom trenutku ces ziveti 1.000.000 godina. dakle - sto pedeset hiljada prozivljenih zivota obicnog coveka. e sad - zamisli TU cifru, da je jedan hiljaditi deo nekog perioda.

to je onda zivot od total - milijardu godina. e sad zamisli, kako to nije ni milioniti deo nekog drugog fiksiranog perioda. pomisli samo na taj totalni vremenski period. milijardu miliona godina. e NI to nije kraj, nego je i to milijarditi deo nekog odredjenog vremenskog perioda, pa to isto tako i tako dalje.

pokusao sam slikovito da ti objasnim sta je beskonacnost, sa razlogom - ako necega ima beskonacno, upravo to sto si rekao - SVE sto ima verovatnocu >0 MORA da se desi. ne moze, nego - MORA. procitaj molim te sa pocetka moj primer o bacanju novcica 12 miliona puta na pismo ... i pomisli, da li bi ti beskonacan zivot obezbedio takav podvig, ako takvu stvar recimo imas za cilj ?

bezkonacnost je koncept nije broj.

Sve sami eksperti...

Pa sta si ti mislio, na Bureku se skuplja sama elita

jeste 0 . objasnicu ti na prostom primeru : kolika je shansa da ti u ovom univerzumu eksplodirash i pretvorish se u supernovu ? jednostavno 0 , iz mnogih razloga (masa tvog tela , temperatura i.t.d. )

tako isto je mogucnost formiranja slozene strukture kakva je ruka u tvom univerzumu 0 , jer su za to potrebne milijarde godina , a ti nemash ni jednu celu sekundu 

posto se ova tema i dalje cita, ja jednostavno moram da ostavim komentar da si ti ocigledno intelektualno degradiran, ili narodski glup, kad sam DESET puta ponovio da JESTE moguce po teoriji multiverzuma, a ti pitas - "a sta ako u ovom ovde".

ovo je jedan, od beskonachno. svaki se razlikuje, i ima ih beskonachno, dakle, moguce je i nuzno da se desi tako naizgled bizaran dogadjaj.

dakle, jedina teorija koja osporava boga, nije tacna, jer se takve stvari ne desavaju.

Da nadogradim.

Pronadjeni tragovi drugih Univerzuma kroz pozadinsko zracenje. Vise o tome ...

'Multiverse' theory suggested by microwave background


The team has located possible "bubble universe" evidence in WMAP data

The idea that other universes - as well as our own - lie within "bubbles" of space and time has received a boost.

Studies of the low-temperature glow left from the Big Bang suggest that several of these "bubble universes" may have left marks on our own.

This "multiverse" idea is popular in modern physics, but experimental tests have been hard to come by.

The preliminary work, to be published in Physical Review D, will be firmed up using data from the Planck telescope.

For now, the team has worked with seven years' worth of data from the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe, which measures in minute detail the cosmic microwave background (CMB) - the faint glow left from our Universe's formation.
'Mind-blowing'

The theory that invokes these bubble universes - a theory formally called "eternal inflation" - holds that such universes are popping into and out of existence and colliding all the time, with the space between them rapidly expanding - meaning that they are forever out of reach of one another.

But Hiranya Peiris, a cosmologist at University College London, and her colleagues have now worked out that when these universes are created adjacent to our own, they may leave a characteristic pattern in the CMB.

"I'd heard about this 'multiverse' for years and years, and I never took it seriously because I thought it's not testable," Dr Peiris told BBC News. "I was just amazed by the idea that you can test for all these other universes out there - it's just mind-blowing."

Dr Peiris' team first proposed these disc-shaped signatures in the CMB in a paper published in Physical Review Letters, and the new work fleshes out the idea, putting numbers to how many bubble universes we may be able to see now.

Crucially, they used a computer program that looked for these discs automatically - reducing the chance that one of the collaborators would see the expected shape in the data when it was not in fact there.

The program found four particular areas that look likely to be signatures of the bubble universes - where the bubbles were 10 times more likely than the standard theory to explain the variations that the team saw in the CMB.

However, Dr Peiris stressed that the four regions were "not at a high statistical significance" - that more data would be needed to be assured of the existence of the "multiverse".

"Finding just four patches is not necessarily going to give you a good probability on the full sky," she explained to BBC News. "That's not statistically strong enough to either rule it out or to say that there is a collision."

Dr Peiris said that data from the Planck telescope - a next-generation space telescope designed to study the CMB with far greater sensitivity - would put the idea on a firmer footing, or refute it. However, the data from Planck cannot be discussed publicly before January 2013.


Data from the Planck telescope should resolve the question once and for all

George Efstathiou, director of the Kavli Institute of Cosmology at the University of Cambridge, called the work "the first serious attempt to search for something like this... from the methodology point of view it's interesting".

He noted that the theories that invoked the multiverse were fraught with problems, because they dealt in so many intangible or immeasurable quantities.

"My own personal view is that it will need new physics to solve this problem," he told BBC News. "But just because there are profound theory difficulties doesn't mean one shouldn't take the picture seriously."

Dr Peiris said that even if these bubble universes were confirmed, we could never learn anything further about them.

"It would be wonderful to be able to go outside our bubble, but it's not going to be possible," she explained.

"They're born close together - that's when the collision happens - and this same inflation happens between the bubbles. They're being hurled apart and space-time is expanding faster than light between them."

But Professor Efstathiou said the search was inherently worth it. He explained: "It would be a pretty amazing thing to show that we have actually made physical contact in another universe. It's a long shot, but it would be very profound for physics."

Preuzeto sa ...

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U attachu First Observational Tests of Eternal In ation a u rarovanim analiza zadnjih podataka.

Pa .. zivi bili. 

Sto se tice ovih 4% materije u nasem univerzumu ciji smo mi deo
Ni jedan elektron na sferama oko jezgra atoma ne moze da zauzima isto mesto  to je ono sto daje postojanje i stabilnost ovom univerzumu ,bez toga ne bi uopste bilo forme .
Kada bilo ko od vas deluje na svoju okolinu nekom akcijom on izaziva menjanje pozicije elektrona na sferama atoma na koje deluje ali to nije samo na lokalnom nivou tog atoma vec svih u univerzumu
to jest svi elektroni u Univerzumu moraju da se pomere za jedno mesto .
Ovo je dokazano u Fizici i u Neurologiji sto znaci da je i vasa sama misao poput fizicke akcije podjednako odgovorna za ovaj proces .

E sad mi neznamo odakle dolazi masa elementima ,jedino sto znamo je da kod ovih najmanjih koje smo uspeli da posmatramo masa se pojavi u prostoru naseg univerzuma pa nestane i taj proces pojavljivanja i nestanka mase elementarnih cestica mi zovemo interakcijom izmedju paralelnih univerzuma a sama logika nalaze da ako je nas univerzum i ovaj paralelni univerzum sposobni i imaju takve interakcije na nivou ispod atomskog,
verovatno je  moguce napraviti malo veci procep i proviriti sta se tamo radi i sta tamo ima .
CERN radi aktivno na tome i LHC se optimisticno nada da ce da dodje do rezultata u sledecih pet godina .

Postoji bar deset labaratorija sirom sveta koje rade i koje se takmice u ovom eksperimentu ,
Jedna od manje poznatih labaratorija Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh istrazuje ili bavi se
"proucavanjem interakcije svetla i materije i stvaranje rupe u prostoru i vremenu "
Ukoliko uspe da naprave ovaj laser koji pulsira 100 puta u sekundi ,moc svakog pulsa se meri u trilionima wati,
Sto znaci da ce ovaj laser biti vise mocniji i imace snagu 10 hiljada puta vecu od nuklearne centrale ,
i toce biti kljuc za stvaranje analogne crne rupe .

Izvor   
Ripping a hole in space and timeBy Kenneth Macdonald
BBC Scotland Special Correspondent
l and tune the conditions and try to make these black holes do something useful for us."


Sto se tice dokaza koji je potvrdio da je kosmicka inflacija prava teorija je uradjeno putem
Nasinog pozadinskog Istrazivaca COBE.
COBE found a residual temperature of 2.726 K and in 1992 detected for the first time the fluctuations (anisotropies) in the CMB, at a level of about one part in 105.During the following decade, CMB anisotropies were further investigated by a large number of ground-based and balloon experiments. The primary goal of these experiments was to measure the angular scale of the first acoustic peak of the power spectrum of the anisotropies, for which COBE did not have sufficient resolution. In 2000–2001, several experiments, most notably BOOMERanG found the Universe to be almost spatially flat by measuring the typical angular size (the size on the sky) of the anisotropies. During the 1990s, the first peak was measured with increasing sensitivity and by 2000 the BOOMERanG experiment reported that the highest power fluctuations occur at scales of approximately one degree. These measurements were able to rule out cosmic strings as the leading theory of cosmic structure formation, and suggested cosmic inflation was the right theory.

Ono sto nije jasno oko stvaranja prostih u slozene elemente je da ako je to proces onda bi od ovih 4% materije
66% bilo litijum . Druga misterija je Kosmicka Mikrotalasna Pozadinska Radiacija trebalo bi biti slucajno rasporedjena ali nije .Rasporedjenost Tamne materije je takodje fascinantna i neophodan je dokaz kosmicke inflacije .

Sto se tice ideje da postoji arhitekt odgovoran za stvaranje univerzuma neka je to mozda i slucaj ,
Sve one navedene fino tunirane stvari u Univerzumu navedene u prvom postu se cine apsolutno perfektne
samo iz jednog jedinog sebicnog i arogantnog razloga a to je da mi postojimo i da smo nastali pod tim uslovima.
To je kao kad bi dve bakterije u gejzeru crnog dimljaka koji bljuje sumpornu kiselinu rekle pa ovo je perfektan univerzum da nam nema ovih otrova za klopu ne bi bilo ovako udobno i mi ne bi postojali.

Drugim recima Ljudski Bog sa svih svojih 5500 religija poceci od Vudu koja se na osnovu antropoloskih nalaza
smatra najstarijom sa praksom od oko 60.hiljada godina pa do 12 hiljada godina najstarijeg grada Golbeki Tepe u kom smo po prvi put u istoriji ljudske rase videli isklesane reprezentacije prvih bogova nema bas nikakve veze
sa recimo arhitektom ovog univerzuma .

Ljudski Bogovi u Golbeki tepe su izmedju 15 i 60 tona teski monoliti u obliku slova T i na njima postoje isklesane ruke i noge ali nema lica ili usta sto ukazuje na to da nisu bili ljudskog terestrijalnog porekla .
Graditelji tog grada su bili vesti kamenoresci sa odlicnim smislom za anatomiju sto se vidi iz preko 27 perfektno isklesanih zivotinja ,ptica ,gmizavaca i insekta .
Za sada je samo 5% ovog grada otkriveno ,zna se da je bio aktivan punih 8 hiljada godina a onda ga je neko pre 4 hiljade godina jednostavno zakopao .