pa stvarno neznam ako je to njima problem.........

pa zna se da oni imaju energetskih izvora koko očeš....može se i tu da se zaradi......samo neznam po kome ti to tolmačiš....
jeste u jednom si u pravu narode jeste siromašan......samo za vojsku uvjek je bilo i uvjek če biti para.......

više bi se primio teorije da se rusi oče rješiti ovih starih....zahrđalih...sklumpanih.....stvari....(pa ako možeš da prodaš prodaj...).....

P.S. neznam možda grešim ispravite me ako grešim......

Pa mislim da gresis i evo par argumenata za to naravno zvanicnih i par licnih zapazanja.
Pa imaju oni energetskih izvora i to mnogo i to prodaju da bi dosli do para.
2.Zasto Rusi smanjuju onda brojnost svoje vojske zasto trenutno imaju 1 nosaca aviona mada mislim
i da su njega sada prodali podmornice na nuklearni pogon ne rade i nisu u mogucnosti da operisu.
3.Rusija ekonomski se nalazi iza Kine i ispod 10 mesta na svetu.
Ruski vojni budzet je u odnosu na Americki smesan.
Pogledaj malo vesti pa ces videti kako zive Ruski vojnici i sta se desava u njihovim redovima.
Evo sad malo  podataka o ekonomiji iz CIA World Factbook - 2005 Updates
Very interesting.
These figures are from comparisons from end of 2004 to end of 2005.

Russia's GDP is now:
$ 1,535,000,000,000
Which is 1.535 Trillion.
5% of that is 76 Billion - YAY for the military budget 

GDP growth rate fell a little - by .7%, but is still close to 6%.

Oil production went up again, and Russia is now only a mere 300,000 barrels a day behind Saudi Arabia.

Exports grew by a mighty $83 Billion, while imports only grew by $35 Billion - which is almost 3 times less - (very good thing for those who don't know).

Forex reserves grew by $60 Billion

Public Debt as a percentage of GDP fell from 28% to 15%

Unemployment rate fell from 8.3 to 7.6

Labour force actually grew from 71 Million to 74 Million from

Birth Rate slightly grew ( by 0.2 ).
Plus skoro su prodali sistem s 300 Iranu sto i nije za otpad ugovor je vredan 1 milijardu dolara.
Ovo za podmornice je greska ali mala posto su dosta tih podmornica rashodovali posle
nesrece Kurska ali sada su obnovili rad na njima tako da ima ju nekolicinu operativnih.
Pa prodaja 400 najsavremenijih tenkova Indiji ne znam dal su t80 , t84 ili t90 ako neko zna
koji su neka napise i vrednost tog ugovora posto je to ugovor od ove godine.

Evo jos jednog novog ugovora  u toku

$4Bln Algerian Arms Deal

By Lyuba Pronina

Staff Writer

MOSCOW — Russia is set to sell $4 billion worth of arms to Algeria, in what would be its largest post-Soviet defense export deal.

“The work on the package of contracts for the delivery of a large part of Russian weapons to Algeria is practically complete, and they are likely to be signed in February,” Interfax quoted an unnamed source in the defense industry.

The multibillion-dollar list of weapons includes 36 MiG-29SMT and 28 Su-30 fighter jets, eight divisions of S-300MPU2 Favorit air defense systems and a batch of T-90 battle tanks, the source said.

Along with the four deals, Russia will sign a few more contracts for the upgrade of Soviet-made arms already in Algeria’s possession, the source said.

The news was confirmed by an independent defense source, who said the package of contracts had already been ratified and was expected to be signed during President Vladimir Putin’s visit to the North African country late next month or in March.

MiG, Irkut, which makes Sukhoi fighter jets, and the Almaz-Antei air defense concern refused to comment, as did Rosoboronexport, the state-owned arms selling agency.

The weapons will be paid for in a “complicated scheme involving striking off part of Algeria’s Soviet debt,” the source told Interfax, without specifying the period over which the arms would be delivered.

In addition to the upcoming contracts, Algeria may buy up to 50 Yak-130 combat trainer planes and about 30 Tunguska-M1 air defense systems, the source said.

“If signed, it will be the largest arms deal for post-Soviet Russia; it will be grandiose,” said Konstantin Makiyenko, deputy head of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, a Moscow-based defense think tank.

Izvor  The St. Petersburg Times

gde da počnem....evo kako stoji moja teorija

"From Russia with love".......

Zašto Rusija prodaje oružje?

E ovdje so moguče dvije opcije: 1:možda ovdje zbilja ide za prodaju oružja zbog novca "nikada dosta" i preko potreban..

2:Samo gledaj ako ti prodaš oružje Indiji, Kini, itd, ne samo da jim prodaš te dobiješ pare za ovo nego se time dobiva i jako "partnerstvo", a sve se čini da Putin i Zapad i jedan i drugi pripremaju "igralište" za drugi Hladni rat", možda se ovo čini prejakim ali pazi ovo

šta se zbilo 24.01.2006 rusi razbili zapadne vohune, izbila cel frka oko toga (like 007).

Zapad shvatio kako rusija mnogo "prodaje" takozvanim "azijskim gigantovima" pa i "Middle east" nije izostao!
E sada zapad iskorištava svu priliku koja je nastala oko ukrajinskog plina pa tako prvim možnim avionom stiže (27.01.2006)  u Ukrajinu te u Georgiju kako bi tema državama ponudii partnerstvo u tako zavom NATO-paktu
E ovdje su zapadne države tako rečeno u samom dvorištu Rusije, izgleda da je Rusija stisnuta!

Prije-sada Rusija prodaje oružje i se tako učvrsti u aziji ali ima i mnogo jako zaleđe, e tako Rusija ubije dvije muhe na jedan mah dobije novce- te se sa uruganskom brzinom i mnogo energetsko požrešnim gospodarstvom ove regije osigura bodučnost-kako bi jim nametnuli svoju energiju u budučnosti..e pa nisu ubili samo dvije nego i treču tako što su si pripremili teren za modernizaciju svoje armije..(samo mi još ostaje otvoreno pitanje šta čekaju?) e pa Ruska armija jeste veliki stroj i te kako požrešan, mora da se reorganizira e ovdje če Rusi da potroše deo ovog "brzog budgeta".....kako godine prolaze tako Rusija nameče svoju energiju evropi i aziji te novci stižu........Sve to izgleda ok samo ni Zapad ne spava te čeka i oni imaju svoje planove...

Opet je na potezu (jer je zadnji vukao potez Zapad) Rusija i sa razvojem stanja koji se događa između Izraela te Palestine izkoristi priliku te nebeskom brzinom šalju telegram "Hamas-u", i ovdje se postavlja pitanje zašto?

Zato što nijedno takozvano "partnerstvo" nije previše.......(e ovdje čemo još vidjeti kako če se stvari odvijati..)


da iznesem još nekoliko činjenica sa kojima ču podkrjepiti moju teoriju:

Putin si priprema bolje rečeno osigurava političku existencu tako što skupi sve naj-bogatije ljude u državi i postavi pravila koje se neki pridržavaju (Abramovič odlazi u Englesku), a moguči proti kandidat na izborima Hudorkovski se ovog ne drži te ga Putin šalje Sibiriji (zna se njegova priča).........

Rusi angažiruju indijce, da jim servisiraju podmornice. (a zašto?) zato jer se tako još više pridobiju na odnosima...

Relacija rusi i strani vahuni........(pa gdje sam ovo čitao.... )........

Kinezi optužuju amere da spremaju novi hladni rat......

Nemojmo ovdje da zaboravimu i latinsku Ameriku gdje isto rusi uporno namječu svoje oružje.......

pa nači če se još..............(soon)

Pa čini se da se svjet opet djeli........


P.S. Nemoj zaboraviti da ovo samo moja teorija.....

evo nešto što se tiče prodaje oružja Indiji.......

After nearly five years of negotiations, IANS reports that India finally signed a $500 million deal with Russia on December 31, 2005 for SPLAV's Smerch-M BM 9K58 long-range 300mm multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS). Compare them to India's older truck-mounted 122mm Grad rocket launchers, and the capability boost quickly becomes apparent. The Smerch-M contract includes 28 wheeled MAZ-543A vehicles with 12-tube 9A52-2 launchers, plus logistics supply and fire-control vehicles. The systems will arm two artillery regiments of 12 Smerch-Ms each, with 4 platforms being kept in reserve.

So, what kind of capabilities does this weapon bring to the table? It may not be the Soviet NKVD's dreaded World War 2 SMERSH ("death to spies") investigations units, who sometimes acted to stiffen defenders' resolve by waiting in vehicles with machine guns just behind the front lines. The Smerch 9K58s may stiffen resolve on the front lines for different reasons, however, and they may also end up being justly feared.

The 48.5 ton Smerch version the Indian Army is acquiring is capable of firing six types of rockets to a maximum range of 70 km. This is approximately 40 km further than regional rival Pakistan's M109 self-propelled howitzers can fire. In addition, several of its rocket types have submunitions warheads that can cover wide areas with anti-armor or fragmentation munitions, neutralizing concentrations of armor and troops well beyond the range of any of India's present artillery systems. The 9M55C rocket even packs a 500-pound thermobaric (fuel-air explosive) warhead.

Novosti Press Agency notes that with the signing of the contract, India will become the third foreign country to receive the Smerch MLRS. Russia delivered 18 systems to Algeria in 1999, and 27 systems to Kuwait in 1995-1996.

Defence Ministry sources said that the Smerch contract was divided into three stages over three years, with deliveries scheduled to begin later this year with the arrival of launchers and 'basic' rockets. More advanced version launchers and the guided rockets would arrive in subsequent stages, with deliveries to be completed some time in early 2008.

In other news, IANS notes that a separate contract for 28 Tungushka M1 self-propelled gun and missile systems for low-level air defence is expected to be signed before the end of 2005-06.

The Tunguska-M1 vehicle carries eight 9M311-M1 (SA-19 Grison) surface-to-air missiles with semi-automatic radar command to line-of-sight guidance. Range is from 15 to 6,000m for ground targets and 15 to 10,000m for air targets. Two twin-barrel 30mm anti-aircraft guns are also mounted on the vehicle. These guns have a maximum firing rate of 5,000 rounds per minute and a range of 3 km against air targets, or 4 km against ground targets. A target acquisition radar and target tracking radar, optical sight, and digital computing system guides these weapons, with a detection range of 18 km and a tracking range of 16 km.

Four of India's artillery regiments have already been operating around 80 Tungushka M1 systems since the late 1990s.


[url]http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2006/02/indias-500m-smerchm-order-from-russia-with-love/index.php[/url]

evo i šta su kupili Kinezi.....

(Source: OPK Oboronprom; dated Jan. 26, web-posted Feb. 15, 2006)


The Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant started fulfilling the contract on delivering 24 Mi-171 helicopters to China, with the total cost of the contract amounting to about $200 million, a source in the Russian Defense Industry told Interfax-Military News Agency.

"The contract on delivering 24 Mi-171s to China was signed in late 2005. Its cost amounts to about $200 million," he said.

He noted that the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, which had already embarked on producing the helicopters, had been appointed chief contractor. According to the source, the Chinese contract is of paramount importance to the Ulan-Ude Plant, since it provides the plant with enough work for at least 2006.

"China will receive civil versions of the helicopter. The first ones will be delivered to the customer in the near future, while the entire contract is expected to be fulfilled by the turn of 2006," the source said.

The Mi-171 utility transport helicopter is a Mi-8-family helicopter and a derivative of the Mi-17. It was designed by the “Mil” Design Bureau, and has been batch-produced at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant since 1990. The passenger modification of the helicopter is capable of transporting 26 men, while the cargo version can airlift up to 4,000 kg of internally and externally mounted cargo.

The Mi-171 is capable of airlifting bulky cargo with its rear doors stripped, carrying out various mounting and loading tasks, conducting search-and-rescue operations, and fulfilling other tasks.

The helicopter is fitted with state-of-the-art navigation equipment, enabling it to conduct instrument flights.

The helicopter has a three-man crew, a maximum takeoff weight of 13,000 kg, a service ceiling of 6,000 m with a standard weight of 11,100 kg, and 4,800 m with the maximum weight. It has a range of 610 km with main fuel tanks, and 1,650 m with two additional fuel tanks. Its maximum speed totals 250 km/h.

e šta još nudi Rusija......

Russia releases passive 'Alamo' for export
Robert Hewson Editor, Jane's Air-Launched Weapons
London

The Russian authorities have made a significant shift in their arms export policies by approving foreign sales of the Vympel R-27P air-to-air missile (AAM). The R-27P (Pasivnaya) is fitted with Avtomatika's 9B-1032 (PRGS-27) anti-radiation seeker, which homes in on other airborne radars. It is one of three basic versions of the R-27 (AA-10 'Alamo') developed in the early 1980s.

Until now the R-27P has been fielded only by the Russian, and probably Ukrainian, air forces. It is part of the baseline weapon set for the MiG-29 and Su-27/Su-30 fighter families. Despite several reports to the contrary, Russia has not yet supplied the R-27P to foreign users. During the recent FIDAE 2004 exhibition in Santiago, Vympel confirmed to JDW that it has now been given permission to offer the R-27P on the export market for the first time.

Despite its age, the R-27P is a radical and effective beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air weapon with no Western parallels. For decades, Soviet (now Russian) missile engineers have produced passive BVR AAMs that allowed their fighters to make undetected stealthy missile attacks. There is already an infra-red-guided version of the weapon - the R-27T - and the R-27P is an extension of this capability.

The R-27P's seeker was designed to be modular and interchangeable with the RVV-AE/R-77 (AA-12 'Adder') active-radar AAM. Vympel's designers discovered that the R-27E (Energitisheskaya) variant, the so-called 'Long Alamo' with its larger rocket motor, had superior ballistic performance to the R-77 and, therefore, more straight-line range. As a result, an R-27EP has been developed, but there is no passive R-77 yet. Export versions of the R-27P variants are designated R-27P1 and R-27EP1.

According to Vympel, the R-27P's 9B-1032 seeker has an effective range of 200km: this significantly outreaches the 110km maximum range of the R-27E missile. Vympel is considering further improvements to the missile design but says it will still not match the capability of the seeker. The preferred solution would be a ramjet-powered R-77. Such a concept has been studied and the basic missile design was tested in the late 1980s, but since then there has been no funding to take this weapon further".

E vidis teorija ti nije losa ali imam i ja svoju koja se ne slaze sa tvojom .
Prvo zapitaj se sto nafta poskupljuje i kome to najvise godi ja mislim Rusima .
Drugo ne verujem da Rusija voli sto mora da prodaje oruzije Kinezima koji su najveca pretnja po njihovu
teritoriju Kineza ima mnogo a Rusa vrlo malo na ogromnoj teritoriji koja je bogata a ne zaboravimo
da Kinezima fali resursa mada tesko da ce napasti Ruse u skorije vreme.
Trece Putin jedino dobro sto radi je sto prodaje oruzije i Indiji koja je pretnja za Kinu i njenu ekonomiju.
Cetvrto ja mislim da Putin vise voli zapad nego Kineze naravno toje moje misljenje.
Ja licno mislim da Amerika i zapad jacaju Rusiju zbog pretnje od Kineza i muslimana.
Gde je Putin otiso na prvi sluzbeni put kod Engleske kraljice pitaj se zasto.
Pozdrav 

To što kažeš da Putin više voli zapad nego Kinu to nema veze sa ekonomijom jer ko sme sa zapada da kupuje rusko oružje pored Američkog.
A pare nemaju oznake čije su.

I ne mislim da se Rusija plaši Kineza i eventualne agresije na svoju teritoriju.

e gledaj sad ove podatke....

Izvor: BBC NEWS.

pa i sada su u Saudskoj Arabiji opravili neka istraživanja oko zaliha nijhovih naftnih resursa, te se pokazalo da su se ušteli oko 40%- znači nema Saudska Arabija onoliko zaliha nafte kako se predviđalo još otprilike godinu dana.

e u ojo tački imama isto mišljenje, samo što si ti predvido da Rusi prodaju oružje zbog novca, e tu ja mislim
da hoču rusi sa ovim novcima, da tehnološko poboljšaju svoje objekate jer svi znamo u kakvom su stanju.
Ako Rusi sada brzo nebi sa lastnim novcima poboljšali "stanje u energiji" onda bi bili prisiljeni da uzmu zapadni novac a to mi se čini da ovoj Rusiji nevalja.

"Samo pogledajmo strukturu oko gradnje plinovoda u njemačku Rusija 51% dvije kompanije sa Evrope 49%"

E tu Rusija dobiva na vremenu da sa vremenom napravi korak naprjed u svojoj armiji....

P a Kinezi ko Kinezi uvjek nešto posvoje, samo gledaj šta ti kaže historija, ako su jim nametnuli komunizam koji još danas stoji (u nekom svojom obliku), pa zašto ne bi prošlo i nešto drugo......
Da kinezi jesu prijetna svjetu-čitaj kao Amerima, e pa zato mislim da oni ni nepomišljaju na nešto protiv rusa..

evo neke činjenice http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20060215-9999-2m15pacific.html
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Amid_China_Threat_US_To_Hold_Mammoth_Naval_Operations_In_Pacific.html

e opet sa ovim dobivaju rusi na vremenu dok se ameri i kinezi prepucavaju....

jel sam nešto propustio ovo sa Putinom......