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Arguments for completing modernization of the Admiral Gorshkov

27/02/2008 16:32 MOSCOW. (Military commentator Nikita Petrov for RIA Novosti) - U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates arrived in India Tuesday amid rumors that he is to offer the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk as a sweetener if New Delhi buys 65 Boeing Super Hornet fighters.

The fighters are Boeing's offering in a fierce competition with European and Russian rivals for a multi-billion deal to supply the Indian Air Force. Other bidders include the Russian MiG-35 Fulcrum F, the French Rafale, the European Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon, and the Swedish Grippen.

According to a report from the Texas-based private intelligence group Stratfor, the "gift" would be designed to ensure victory at the tender, because an aircraft carrier without deck aircraft is a harmless floating airfield. It could also woo India away from Russia, which is currently refitting the air-capable cruiser Admiral Gorshkov for the Indian Navy at the Sevmash shipyard in northern Russia.

The U.S. probably needn't go to such lengths. New Delhi has its own reasons for terminating the contract with Sevmash, which is lagging behind the agreed schedule and has set back the completion date from 2008 to 2012. The deadline may well be postponed again, because the shipyard has spent the $750 million India had provided for the carrier's modernization and has no money for completing the job.

The problems did not appear yesterday. The deadlines and the allocations stipulated in the original 2004 contract were unrealistic from the beginning, and even prompted the resignation of David Pashayev, the shipyard's director.

Pashayev sharply criticized the Russian officials for what he saw as an inability and unwillingness to drive a harder bargain over price, and for putting unbearable responsibility on the shipyard, which had not received regular budgetary allocations for the projects it was already doing for the government (at the time it was working on a new nuclear submarine, the Yury Dolgoruky.)

Not unlike the rumored gift of the Kitty Hawk, the sale of the Admiral Gorshkov was above all a political decision, designed to tie New Delhi to the Russian defense sector. But it was also the only way of getting funds for its normal maintenance.

By 2004 the Admiral Gorshkov had been standing in Sevmash docks for nearly seven years, and nobody knew what to do with it. Built in the early 1980s, the Kiev class carrier no longer fitted the requirements of the Russian Navy.

Designed to host custom built but never mass produced, Yak-38 fighters, the Admiral Gorshkov's flight deck was too short for the Russian Navy's standard MiG-29K Fulcrum and the Su-33 Flanker, both designed to use a ski-jump for carrier takeoff. Russia lacked $2.5-$3 billion to add the modifications these aircraft needed for carrier takeoff.

When India showed an interest in the carrier, Russia was only too glad to be rid of it. The contract for modernization and the supply of MiG-29K fighters (India will pay for their ski-jump) and other equipment promised major profits and long-term cooperation with India.

The total contract was estimated at $1.5 billion, about half of which was to be spent on developing modernized MiG-29K deck fighters capable of day/night, all-weather, year-round operation in any climate, including tropics with ambient temperatures up to +35° C. The ship itself was sold to India at the price of scrap metal, $150-$200 per metric ton.

Just as David Pashayev had warned, however, the contract hugely underestimated the true costs of modernization. The plunge of the dollar and the subsequent surge in prices of equipment and skilled labor, as well as high requirements set by the Indian Navy, made the project unrealizable.

The Admiral Gorshkov will have French, Israeli and Indian equipment, which will have to be adjusted to the Russian-made systems. This entails a series of R&D projects and trials. More funds are to be spent on the improvement of the MiG-29K, which can engage not only air, but also surface and submarine, targets.

Indian pilots saw the MiG-29K at the Zhukovsky airfield near Moscow two years ago, and were impressed. Additional funds are needed for its mass production, however, and New Delhi has refused to pay a rupee more. Moreover, it has threatened to fine Russia for failure to deliver on time.

As usual, Russian officials found a scapegoat and fired Sevmash director Vladimir Pastukhov, but this has neither improved the situation nor added money for completing the ship's modernization. In an apparent effort to encourage the Indians to pay more, the Russian press cited an anonymous source from the Russian General Staff, who said that if India terminated the contract the carrier would be turned over to the Russian Navy.

However, nobody has calculated how much this would cost Russia - in fines for breach of contract, adjusting the carrier to Russian requirements, and damage to Russia's prestige.

Sadly, the debacle of the Admiral Gorshkov is not an isolated incident. Several years ago, the St Petersburg-based Baltic Shipyard and its subcontractors postponed the delivery of three multi-role frigates to the Indian Navy for more than a year because of failure to adjust a new air defense system to the ships' fire control systems. On that occasion the Indians demanded about $40 million in damages, and it took Russian officials much time and effort to convince them to withdraw their claims.

Later Russia had problems with a diesel submarine modernized for India because of a malfunctioning missile system.

Next India refused to take delivery of a modernized version of the Il-38, a naval patrol and anti-submarine warfare aircraft, because its technical and tactical characteristics did not fit Indian requirements.

Even if America did offer the Kitty Hawk, New Delhi might well refuse the gift. It was built in 1961 and has been declared too old for the U.S. Navy. The Admiral Gorshkov is not only younger (she was laid down in 1978 and launched in 1982), but fully equipped. The U.S. carrier will need to be supplied with new power plants and support, navigation and other systems. Nobody can say now how much this would cost.

In other words, by rejecting the Admiral Gorshkov, India could fall into a new trap with the USS Kitty Hawk. But that would not be Russia's problem.

The opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.


Nakon problema sa Alzirom i isporukom MiG-29SMT, ovo je jos jedna opasnost, ali ovoga puta mnogo veca po ruse. Indija je najveci uvoznik naoruzanja na svetu i ako amerikanci uspeju da se uguraju na trziste putem Kitty Hawk-a i Super Horneta onda ce doci u pitanje i posao nabavke 126 lovaca za indijsku vojsku, za koji sam i ja, ali i mnogi strucnjaci smatrali da ce pripasti rusima, tacnije MiG-u i projektu MiG-35. Cini mi se da pre svih MiG moze da strada, obzirom da su MiG-ovi trebali da budu i na nosacu aviona, a sve zbog lose procene nekih ljudi koji nemaju mnogo veze sa MiG-om.
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 autor chlanka je "zaboravio" da je kitty hawk josh u gorem stanju nego admiral gorshkov ,kao i da su f-18/e ili f ,"malchice" skuplji nego mig-29 K ...  Smile
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tacno se vidi da je ovo americka propaganda... Smile
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autor chlanka je "zaboravio" da je kitty hawk josh u gorem stanju nego admiral gorshkov ,kao i da su f-18/e ili f ,"malchice" skuplji nego mig-29 K ...  Smile
Nije to se pominje u pretposlednjem pasusu, a i u poslednjem gde kaze ako ih kupe ulecu u probleme, ali to onda vise nije stvar Rusije...

tacno se vidi da je ovo americka propaganda... Smile
Ovo je skinuto sa ruskog sajta RIA Novosti, tesko da tamo ima americke propagande  Smile
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prema poslednjim vestima india ce ipak kupiti admirala gorshkova (odnosno INS Vikramaditya) , a saglasili su se da plate josh 800 miliona zelembaca (ako i to inflacija ne pojede  Smile).

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080042366&ch

ako bi uzeli  i kitty hawk ,morali bi da puknu bar josh 2-3 milijarde da ga pripreme za sluzbovanje u narednih 30-ak godina ,a to bash i nije tako fino ...  Smile
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Drago mi je da su se dogovorili, mada, koliko sam citao o ovom celom slucaju, mislim da su rusi u minusu sa ovim poslom, ali dugorocno ce se izvuci nekako. naime, neko je potcenio vrednost poslova koje treba uraditi na nosacu kada je sklapao ugovor sa indijcima i to je najveci problem. Da bi se isplatio posao, mislim da bi indijci na ovih 800 miliona koji se spominju u bf-ovom clanku trebalo da se doda jos najmanje jedna milijarda, sad pricam na pamet mrzi me da trazim taj clanak u kojem sam citao o tome, ali to je red velicina.

Mislim da Indija ima u planu da osposobi svoja brodogradilista za izgradnju nosaca aviona, ali mislim da se to nece ostvariti u narednih 10-15 godina, a mozda i vise.
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Kad smo kod nosača aviona, zna li se koliko nosača ima Rusija, i pošto pretpostavljam da ih ima manje od Amera, zanima me koliko je to manje??
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Kad smo kod nosača aviona, zna li se koliko nosača ima Rusija, i pošto pretpostavljam da ih ima manje od Amera, zanima me koliko je to manje??

ima 1 , a to je 10 manje  Smile
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