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Tema: Punisher - War Zone, децембар 2008  (Pročitano 10082 puta)
14. Jun 2008, 01:16:13
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Премијера је померена са 12. септембра на децембар...

Иначе у питању је потпно нов филм који нема везе са претходна 2 остварења....

Режира га Лекси Александер, цура која је одрадила Greenstreet Hooligans..... филм ће имати Р рејтинг...
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Zbog čega bi se odricali Punishera sa Tomas Jenom?
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Zbog čega bi se odricali Punishera sa Tomas Jenom?

Stvarno zašto? Ima li neko informaciju?
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In a letter to AICN Thomas Jane announced that he's dropping out of the Punisher sequel.

I’m writing to tell you that I regretfully and painfully had to pull out of P2. I can’t tell you how completely broken up I am about it. After busting my ass at the gym four days a week for almost two years, watching every character driven action pic that any fan would ask me to watch while I was standing in line buying egg whites and Tuna fish (Leon the Professional, Oldboy, The Seven-Ups (GREAT flick), Point Blank, Escape from NY, The Driver, Magnum Force, The Mechanic, The Great Silence, Sexy Beast, Nighthawks, Cry Vengeance (check it out), Road Warrior, Man on Fire, Outlaw Josey Wales, Rocky (think about it), Serpico, etc etc etc.) after countless Saturday nights making notes and drinking soda water and munching on seaweed sticks while my daughter slept on my lap to the sound of automatic gunfire, (now she can’t sleep without it. I had to make a tape of automatic gunfire to play in her room at night) after hauling myself to any ‘Guns! Knifes! Ammo!’ show in any small town that I found myself in shooting Killshot or The Mist or Mutant Chronicles, after torn ligaments, screwed up rotator cuffs, thousands of $$$ on ridiculously huge vitamins, overly long conversations with frighteningly tall men about The Fastest Way To Kill Someone With Your Bare Hands, and after a dude refused to sell me a Fatburger at 2am on Santa Monica Blvd, I am, sadly – no, make that heartbrokenly – fuck it - just rip out the heart and stomp it into the pavement a couple of times – pulling out. Punisher fans are already fighting an uphill battle as it is. And I’ve always felt a responsibility to fight that fight for them and with them so that Frank Castle gets the treatment he deserves.

I'm sharing this with you because I know you're a fan, like me, and you've got your ear to the ground, and because we seem to share the same sort of taste and passion when it comes to movies and stories that get us off. What I won't do is spend months of my life sweating over a movie that I just don't believe in. I’ve always loved the Marvel guys, and wish them well. Meanwhile, I’ll continue to search for a film that one day might stand with all those films that the fans have asked me to watch.

Sincerely,
Thomas Jane

Колико ја знам није му се свидео сценарио другог дела.... па су скроз одустали од наставка и направили потпуно нови филм, мрачан, крвав..... са новим ликовима ( ко је читао стрип знаће ) Микрочип, Џигсов, детектив Соуп....

Не знам за вас али ја једва чекам филм.... ваљда ћемо коначно добити правог Френка... иначе мислим да би Џејн у овом новом филму разбијао мада ни овај Реј Стивенсон (играо у серији Рим) није лош, по трејлеру......

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U prvi mah sam pomislio da punishera glumi Seagal  Smile . Necu da sudim dok ne odgledam.
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I got banned for having a common sense.
Common sense... Not as common as you might think.
Sta smo danas naucili? Filmovi se dele na umetnicke i filmove za opustanje. Nema losih filmova, to je laz, plod fikcije.
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Ne, priča uopšte nije druga, već se nadovezuje na prethodnu. Ne znam odakle ti ta informacija.
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Прича је потпуно нова, држи се стрипа, породица му је убијена у Централ Парку (жена и двоје деце), а не цела фамилија на неком одмору као у прошлом филму, појављује се његов једини и најбољи пријатељ Микрочип, највећи непријатељ Џигсоу....

Оно писмо што је Џејн послао натерао је сценаристе да одраде нови.. који вероватно има неких додирних тачака са другим делом који су требали дараде са Џејном.... као на пример главни негативац...

Убиства породице ће се сећати кроз флешбекове, а радња ће се догађати како сам разумео неких 10ак година после масакра...

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Ево пронашао сам неке информације, па постављам у новом одговору да буде прегледније, надам се да сте добили одговор.....

You could imagine my trepidation when the script for Lexi Alexander’s “Punisher: Warzone” come through on my email. I’d recently heard that Frank had been recast with Ray Stevenson – an actor I wasn’t familiar with – and I still haven’t seen Director Lexi Alexander’s “Green Street Hooligans”. I was reading this script with no expectations other than I wanted it to be better than the 2004 version.

And is it?

Yes, it is. Thank God.

This 100 page draft, written by Art Marcum, Matt Holloway, Kurt Sutter and Alexander herself, is an enjoyable boy’s only white knuckled action-fest. More of a reboot than a sequel – Frank is mourning the death of his wife, son and DAUGHTER – “Punisher: Warzone” should please fans of the comic and action enthusiasts alike.

We open on a muscular man (guess who) preparing every weapon imaginable for a battle. Cut to Don Cesare’s mansion. The wily old mob boss has just beat an indictment, thanks to the suspicious disappearance of a witness, and is celebrating. Before the event gets underway, the Don tends to business with one of his crew, Billy Russo.

Billy’s a renegade mobster. He has no time for rules and less time for tradition and respect. He wants power…and he wants it now. While he and the Don argue, someone cuts the power to the house, putting it into total darkness. Before you can say “gunfight”, someone begins mowing down the mobsters at the shindig, using guns, knives and even lobsters.

When the lights come back up, the mobsters are dead and the Don is too. Russo, knowing it’s the Punisher, retreats to his hide out – a glass factory – to regroup. But good old Frank doesn’t give up easily. He storms the factory and wipes out most of Russo’s men. The man himself ends up face down in a pit of glass, courtesy of Castle.
After the massacre, Frank discovers, to his surprise, that one of Russo’s men was in fact an undercover fed. Shattered, Frank returns to the darkness of his sewer hideout and ponders his future. Days later, he follows the dead man’s family to the funeral and discovers that the man he killed was not unlike him. Wracked with guilt, and against the advice of his trusty armorer, Microchip, Frank hangs up his guns and quits the justice business.

Russo, now out of intensive care and sporting a face only a mother, a blind mother, could love decides its open season on New York. He’s gonna take over the Don’s empire and his first piece of business is wiping out The Punisher. He’s not alone in his quest. He recruits every gangbanger who hasn’t been killed by Frank, and his seriously unhinged brother Looney Bin Jim to help him. That’s right, poor old Frank has TWO major nutjobs to kill in this pic.

That’s basically the plot, give or take a few small bits here or there. How did it shape up? Better than I expected. Gone is the hot, tropical setting of Tampa Bay. In this screenplay, Frank prowls the mean dark streets of New York…and the character and the film will be much better for it.

Frank is played as a tragic figure, not a shut- in like Jane’s, but more like Mad Max in the Road Warrior. He’s cold, mean and unapologetic…and he’s got NO time for people. His relationship with Microchip is interesting. Wayne Knight from Seinfeld could be a real surprise in this. He’s not just some dumb sidekick for Frank. He has some neat little moments that provide reason behind why people like them would become vigilantes.

The background characters are also worth a mention too. Russo, aka Jigsaw is a killer as ruthless and disturbed as Frank. Part of the problem with sequel that was planned a few years ago was that the Jigsaw character was under used. He was only in the last 30 pages. Jigsaw is present for at least 70 pages in this draft.

Loony Bin Jim is also a cool bad guy. Unlike Frank and Jigasw, he has no reason or no sanity. He’s a 24-hour-a-day killing machine that has no right being alive.

Scripts like this live or die by their action scenes…and this will have dozens of them. But are they any good??? Yes, they’re solid. Many people who have read the screenplay have complained about a rooftop chase involving Frank and some crims who are good at free-running – the sport that the bomber at the start of “Casino Royale” performs.

Sure, it doesn’t feel wholly original, but it works in the context of the film and the character – while these guys are doing all their fancy moves, Frank brings them down with a couple of grenades. A nice Punisher moment. And there’s no “God’s gonna sit this one out punchline.” Phew!!!!!

There’s also a TON of fights. And these things will be choreographed to the hilt. Alexander, who’s a former martial arts champ, has put her unique stamp on these confrontations. The fights, which show off style and technique, also have ruthlessly brutal moments that are straight out “do-what-it-takes-to-survive” moves.

There’s also several other core “Punisher moments” like gunbattles and explosions. In one particular nasty scene, a bad guy is blown up but remains intact…or so we think. When he talks to one of his fellow scumbags, we discover he’s got an armful of his own intestines. Nice!!!

If you were disappointed by the fact that the only real action scene in the 2004 version was the shootout at the end, prepare to be blown away. Every action sequence in this script is ten times better than that.

I won’t lie to you guys though; there are a couple of issues with this draft. Frank’s relationship with the family of the Fed he killed feels tacked on, and we know they only exist to become bait.

Other than that, this should be a successful action movie. It’s not gonna win any Oscars comes awards time, but it should hopefully give The Punisher the movie he deserves.

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After the mild disappointment of Thomas Jane's 2004 turn as the no holds barred anti-hero, Marvel seems to have upped the ante. Filmmakers have promised a darker, edgier Punisher this time around; much like how this week's Incredible Hulk is a polite reboot of Ang Lee's angst-ridden 2003 take, War Zone is not a direct sequel to either Jane's The Punisher  or Dolph Lundgren's 1991 direct-to-video flick of the same name.

The villainous Jigsaw isn't the only character comics faithful will recognize. Also along for the ride is Punisher gadget guy/confidante Microchip (Wayne Knight), Punisher Task Force head Detective Martin Soap (Dash Mihok), Agent Paul Budiansky (Colin Salmon), and Irish crime lord Maginty (T.J. Storm); the character of Loony Bin Jim (Doug Hutchinson), Jigsaw's brother, appears to be the only major character without origins in the comics.

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cek,cek, Wayne knight??? Newman ????? WTF?
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cek,cek, Wayne knight??? Newman ????? WTF?
A ovaj lik iz Rome je dobar izbor,bar meni

Да, да баш тај... Smile

Мада када боље погледаш он и има тај штреберски лук, а и личи на Микрочипа из стрипа...
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