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There are heroes, and there are super-heroes, just as there are warriors, and super-warriors. These elite of the elite hold a place in history in the Hall of the Immortals, bridging the gap between mortal man and superman, between mortal man and the Gods. Some seem to change the course of history almost single-handedly; while for others it may be a display of courage, poised between myth and destiny, of which legends are made.

One such legend, which remains a model of heroism for White people everywhere, was the great battle at Thermopylae, which took place in the year 480 BC. The man of the hour was Leonidas of Sparta, a selfless warrior-hero, a strategist king and fearless commander.

The Spartans are renowned to this day for their expert fighting skills and warrior prowess. Only the strong survived in the disciplined Spartan armies. Trained only for battle, a young soldier knew but one home -- his barracks, one family -- his unit. Physical training was the chief occupation, and each man's day was spent in exercise or on the drill-ground.
Absolute devotion
From the age of seven, Spartan boys no longer lived at home, but were brought up by the state. Training was often harsh, but effective, and each youth learned unwavering and absolute devotion to his country and his folk. Aside from combat training, they learned to swim, run, jump, wrestle and box, and, above all, to dance. For in Greece, rhythmical movement was considered good training, not for the body alone, but also for the character. War songs were chanted by bands of boys in a musical drill. Every Spartan was expected to be able to sing; great stress was laid on the cultivation of memory, and all learned by heart the ballads of their patriot-poet Tyrtaeus.

By the age of twenty, each cadet became a fully-fledged warrior. On his thirtieth birthday, a Spartan was invested with the remainder of his civic rights and duties. Thenceforth he attended the Appela, the assembly of the people, and could vote on measures proposed by the two kings or by the Ephoroi, Sparta's five-man judiciary. At this time he was also allowed to marry and to establish his own household, although still bound to dine in common with his peers.
Uncompromising
Girls were also given rigorous physical training, so that they might become the mothers of healthy children. The Spartans practiced an uncompromising eugenics programme. New-born babies were raised only if healthy and perfectly formed, so as not to be a burden on the state, and to ensure genetic upbreeding.

Women in Sparta were accounted the most beautiful in all of Hellas, while at the same time they were known to be as tough in spirit as the men. It was common for mothers to order their warrior sons as they went off to battle: "Come back with your shield, or on it."

The men were encouraged rigorously to procreate. Just as cowardice was recognized as most despicable and abhorrent, so likewise was chastity among men. Celibacy was a crime, and street gangs of women were known on occasion to beat up bachelors. "Sparta was hardly famous for chaste women," commented Euripides. However, aside from their procreative responsibilities, the Spartans were recognized as the freest people in all of Greece. The citizens themselves were called 'the equals', and in theory all were equal in both war and government.

MapThe states of Ancient Greece and the Persian Empire were separated by the Aegean Sea. By 500 BC, the Persians, led by King Darius, began to thrust westward, taking many of the cities which formed the outposts of Greek civilization. The conquered Ionian Greeks revolted in 499, and Athens and Eretria sent help. But Darius stamped out the uprising by 490 BC and, by 481 his son Xerxes had succeeded to his throne and was busy amassing a vast army to invade Greece proper.

The Greeks held a superb defensive position at the Pass of Thermopylae ("Hot Gates" -- so named for its thermal springs). Flanked by mountains, the pass narrowed at one point to a path just fifty feet wide. Leonidas, the Spartan King, who had command over the whole Greek army, held the pass with about 7,000 troops. They included his own royal guard, all the fathers of sons, chosen so that even if a guardsman fell his name and his blood would live on.

The studied fearlessness of the Spartans was illustrated by the reply one of them made when told that the Persian army was so vast that the arrows of its archers would darken the sky: "So much the better, we can fight in the shade."
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From a neighboring hill, seated on a throne of gold, Xerxes watched his men pour into the pass. At first, one of his scouts reported back that he had seen vain Greek soldiers bathing and preening themselves on the eve of battle. Xerxes laughed at this news, but a Greek in his service heard it and understood: The warriors were Spartans, ritualistically preparing to die. "Oh King!" he exclaimed, "Now are you face to face with the most valiant men in Hellas."

Confident in their abilities, the Spartans had no fear of confrontation with anyone, regardless of how vast an army approached. Xerxes felt certain that the sheer weight of numbers of his men would force the Spartans to decamp. He let four days pass with this notion. On the fifth day he concluded that his opponents must indeed be obstinate fools, and sent forth his men with orders to capture them and bring them to his presence alive.

Hoplite Killing a PersianThe attack proved both costly and futile. With his regular troops being butchered, Xerxes was forced to dispatch his best fighters, the 'Immortals'. Again, however, the Spartans outfought the Persians. A written account from the Greek historian Herodotus records that: "The Spartans' remarkable handling of the battle, too, showed the superiority of their tactics. Often they would feign flight and then, when the noisy rabble pursued, they would swing round and slaughter them in heaps. Three times, it is said, Xerxes leapt from his throne in terror for his army." [Image: Hoplite killing a Persian, from a cup by the Triptolemos Painter.]

The next day proved no better for the Persian hordes, whose casualties littered the field. As evening fell on the second day of battle, Xerxes was at a loss as to how the iron grip of the Spartans on the pass could be broken. A Greek traitor came to his aid, informing him of a mountain top trail by way of which the Persians could outflank their hardy enemies.
Grim determination
Leonidas learned of this treachery in time to send away most of his men and all his allies. Then he swung his remaining force of 300 guardsmen against the enemy, with undaunted courage and grim determination worthy of their Gods.

Facing overwhelming numbers, the Spartans fell back, forming a compact body on a hillock. Herodotus would later recall this final stand: "They fought with their swords, if they had them, but if not, with their hands and teeth."

Leonidas fell fighting bravely, and a fierce struggle raged over the body of the Spartan king. Four times the Persian advance was repulsed with heavy losses, including two of Xerxes' brothers, until the Spartans were overwhelmed by the arrows they had mocked a few days before.

Xerxes himself did not set foot on the battlefield until it was all over, but he knew that he had just seen the most extraordinary fighting men in the world. Viewing the carnage before him, he turned to the Greek, Demaratus: "Now tell me, how many men of the Lacedaimon remain, and are they all such warriors as these fallen men?"

"Sire," replied Demaratus, "there are many men and towns in Lacedaemon. But I will tell you what you really want to know: Sparta alone boasts 8,000 men. All of them are the equals of the men who fought here."

Xerxes had the body of Leonidas beheaded and crucified. But such an example was wasted on the remaining Spartans, only heightening their avenging anger. Indeed, only a few months later, they caught up with Xerxes and, in the climactic Battle of Plataea, drove the Persian horde forever from Hellenic soil.

History would repeat itself at Thermopylae, during World War Two. This time the British held the pass, only to be outflanked and overwhelmed by the Germans.

The place remains, however, best known for the earlier clash of arms. Following the defeat of Leonidas the Spartan, the Greeks built a monument to mark the spot where the heroes died. Upon it were carved no lofty words of praise, no boasts or laments, but one simple, concise verse:

    Go tell the Spartans, passer-by,
    That here, obedient to their laws, we lie.





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This is where we hold them!This is where we fight!! This is where they die !! King Leonidas
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     Treba jos samo dodati da su Persijanci pokopali sve mrtve kod Termopilskog klanca i ostavili samo Leonidasovu glavu nabijenu na kolac kao strasilo. Potom su dovodili turiste da gledaju taj strasan prizor, uveravajuci ih da su oni pobedili...
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Sparta - prva i prava vojnicki nastrojena drzava... Cilj njenog postojanja je zastita postojanja... Cudno da nikad nisu tezili osvajanju sveta, ili necemu slicnom... Jesu bili sila na peleponezu i u grckoj, ali nisu imali osvajacke ambicije...
O nekim velikim osvajanjima nije moglo biti govora jer je pravih Spartanaca, aristokrata, onij koji su cinili vojsku bilo samo oko 50000, a Helota robova oko 200000. Cilj postojanja Sparte je zastita aristokrata i eksploatacija Helota. Molim vas da istoriju tumacite bez uotrebe emocija i koristenja epiteta. Istorija nije ljubavna drama vec krvava drama. Svaka drzava postoji zbog svojih gradana, ali onih najbogatijih i sluzi njihovim interesima.
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O nekim velikim osvajanjima nije moglo biti govora jer je pravih Spartanaca, aristokrata, onij koji su cinili vojsku bilo samo oko 50000, a Helota robova oko 200000. Cilj postojanja Sparte je zastita aristokrata i eksploatacija Helota. Molim vas da istoriju tumacite bez uotrebe emocija i koristenja epiteta. Istorija nije ljubavna drama vec krvava drama. Svaka drzava postoji zbog svojih gradana, ali onih najbogatijih i sluzi njihovim interesima.

Александар је са 50000 људи освојио познати свет.

Опште је познато да њихова филозофија није подразумевала поробљавање и освајање већ само стављање под контролу онога што су мислили да им припада. А то је скоро цео Пелопонез.
Они су изградили савршен систем, војни и државни. Неуништив. Једина мана му је била што није био склон мењању и прилагођавању као неки други. Он је направљен за давно античко доба, чим је дошло до промене у технологији, борбеној тактици, филозофији, људским правима и слободама систем је био осуђен на пропаст.
Веома упечатљив народ који је оставио много трагова у историји.
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Nisu samo aristokrate isle u vojsku, iz prostog razloga sto bi onda heloti digli bunu cim aristokrate odu u rat i oslobodili se... glupost... Svi spartanci su odgajani u tom duhu, ne samo aristokrate...
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Nisu samo aristokrate isle u vojsku, iz prostog razloga sto bi onda heloti digli bunu cim aristokrate odu u rat i oslobodili se... glupost... Svi spartanci su odgajani u tom duhu, ne samo aristokrate...
Da, slazem se. Svi Spartanci su zakonski bili jednaki. Ali opet su bili znatni malobrojnini od Helota tako da je njihovo bitisanje bilo usmjereno ka tome da brane nacin zivota koji poznaju.
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Feanor, slazem se. . .

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Nisu samo aristokrate isle u vojsku, iz prostog razloga sto bi onda heloti digli bunu cim aristokrate odu u rat i oslobodili se. . .  glupost. . .  Svi spartanci su odgajani u tom duhu, ne samo aristokrate. . .
Da, slazem se.  Svi Spartanci su zakonski bili jednaki.  Ali opet su bili znatni malobrojnini od Helota tako da je njihovo bitisanje bilo usmjereno ka tome da brane nacin zivota koji poznaju.
voleo bih da jednom, makar jednom, ovi obicni smrtnici shvate da postoje i besmrtnici.  termopili-leonidas-spartanci to su sve cinjenice neoborive za sva vremena.  niko to nikad nece moci da izbrise iz vremena, cak ni tako velikim poduhvatom kao sto je film 300.  film nije promasaj daleko od toga, ali niti film ne moze da prenese stvarnost od pre nekoliko hiljada godina koja se i dan danas cuje i oseca.  a kamoli tek neki decaci koji pokusavaju da potamne ljudsku istoriju objasnjavanjem nekih cinjenica nepoznatog izvora niti porekla a kamoli tek autoriteta.  A koliko su mesa jeli spartanci ili da li je stvarno bilo tako toplo vreme tada ili ne verujem da je jedan spartanac bio toliko jak ili visok? Shvatite ljudi: tome ovde, u ovoj istorijskoj ili legendarnoj prici uopste nema mesta! ovde je rec o necem sasvim drugom.  u pitanju su ljudski ideali koji nas cine boljim i dostojnijim ljudskog porekla.  a ne cinjenice da smo napravljeni od 75% vode ili ne znam sta vec.  Potrudite se malo da ostanete objektivniji i odlucniji u otkrivanju istina.  malo vise srca molim u tim traganjima i bice vam ovaj svet mnogo laksi za razumevanje :wave:
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