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CAIRNS, AUSTRALIA -- For several years, the Australian company Lute has been capturing the imagination of energy enthusiasts around the world with their claim to have a 1000 Watt device that will put out as much as 15 times more energy than it requires to run, the excess coming freely from the void of space.

Since May 31, 2002, at the top of their home page Lutec has been stating: "The Lutec 1000 is the first free energy machine to be developed to commercial stage anywhere in the world."

Perhaps the problem lies in semantics. Just what did they mean by this statement? Certainly in saying "free energy" Lutec does not have solar and wind energy in mind, because mankind has been tapping that energy “free for the taking” for centuries. Certainly the company does not mean that "free” energy refers to their device itself, because they do not plan on giving that away for free. Apparently, therefore, Lutec intends "free energy" to refer to the tapping of unseen energy from the void of space – in the spirit of Nikola Tesla and other revolutionary energy inventors.

Whether or not Lutec's device actually does tap effectively into some extra or space-vacuum energy source is not soundly documented anywhere that we can find.  (If you know of any such documentation, please let us know.)

Also, when they say, "developed to commercial stage," they can't mean that it is available in the marketplace because it isn't. Neither can they mean that they have a prototype that is ready to be manufactured, for they don't, nor have they ever since first posting that statement. Perhaps by "commercial stage", they mean that the prototype outputs a commercially usable amount of energy; but inasmuch as usable commercial energy ranges from microwatts to gigawatts, that is not a justification for the claim either.

By their own admission, Lutec engineers are still deep in research and development, refining their prototype. Some reports extant on the Internet read as if the Lutec 1000 prototype has been running continuously for months, if not years, which is a fair interpretation of the statements made on the Lutec website. However, when explicit details are requested, this turns out to not be the case. According to Lou Brits (the 'Lu tech' of the company name), as of April 3, 2005 the longest they've had the device running continuously has been four weeks.

The claimed 1000-Watt output which is fifteen-fold over input is not a stable output, but is an extrapolated maximum predicted to occur when everything is running right -- which has not yet been achieved. The 4-week continuous run, according to Brits, was at around 200 Watts output. The stable point is between 200 and 250 Watts, he said.  That is with a rotation speed of around 200 rpm. When it gets up to between 600 and 700 rpm, where it begins to approach an output of 1000 Watts, it becomes unstable, frying circuits and switches. Brits said he has gone through maybe one hundred thousand circuits and switches in the ten years of experimentation, and is still frying them routinely.

That is to be expected in any research and development of electronic gadgetry. In and of itself, such glitches need not be a problem. The problem is that although Lutec is still deep in an R&D stage, the company is portraying itself on the official website as being commercially ready for production.

They may be able to argue logically that their use of the future tense on the website covers this gap. The website’s homepage actually states:

    "The Lutec 1000 generator will produce up to 1000 watts of DC electricity twenty four hours a day, every day, which will be stored in a battery bank and then inverted to AC power and connected directly into the home or business." (emphasis added)

However, the phrase "will produce" can also mean "is capable of producing," though the phrase, "which will be stored" does carry a stronger future tense.  But that is confused because the context is of a technology that is "developed to the commercial stage," so a reader might think the future tense refers to future customers storing energy generated by this device.

Perhaps they are just out of touch with the statements on their website, not realizing that those statements might reflect some early exuberance that turned out to not be warranted yet.  You would think, though, with the name of their company and their reputation associated with such exaggerated statements being posted on their website, that they would have done something by now to revise those statements to more closely reflect reality.

The Lutec 1000 device involves battery storage in the course of its function.  Whenever batteries are involved, the verification of power-input-to-power-output ratios becomes extremely tricky.  A brand new battery sitting on the shelf can increase in voltage measured -- just sitting there with no load other than the meter.  Even battery experts disagree with one another about just how batteries work, and about the energy curves that might be expected under a given set of circumstances.

One of Brits' responses is that their device has been replicated by what he estimates to be over 200 independent researchers. Yet none of those supposedly positive and convincing reports have been published anywhere that we can find. The only reports that we have seen published are by Walter Rosenthal and Park Cole (ref), who conclude based on their data that the Lutec 1000 was grossly inefficient in terms of energy in versus energy out. Brits asserts that these two individuals are “probably” employed by the CIA. He does not supply any evidence to support that charge other than his own suspicion.

On June 20, 2005, physicist Jacco van der Worp was interviewed by Lutec apologist Marshall Masters.  Van der Worp has spent months investigating the Lutec 1000, and is clearly a supporter of the device as an energy solution in general.  Early in the interview he states very clearly that the device is not an over-unity mechanism, and that it does not produce more energy than it consumes.  Rather, he states that it is a highly efficient machine.

Ironically, in the course of interviewing van der Worp, Marshall Masters lambasted me, calling me a wolf in sheep's clothing in the employ of the oil interests. This completely false statement is an attempt to deflect the criticisms I made in my April 3 radio interview, when I questioned whether or not the Lutec generator is putting out as much energy as their website claims. Yet the guest Masters interviewed on June 20 went much further than I did, in stating that the device is not over-unity at all, and that it is not tapping some mysterious or cosmic external energy source.

In my radio interview on April 3, one of the points I made was that in support of their claims, all Lutec gives us is their word -- no data -- and because the statements on their home page have been shown to be misrepresentations of how far along they are, their honor is called into question by their own words. This has been pointed out to them, and yet they have not revised those statements in any way. Three months have now gone by since I pointed out to Lou Brits the discrepancies between what he was telling me and what he has posted on his website.

Another point I made in the April 3 show is that even if Lutec did have what they claim on their home page to have -- a device that taps free energy -- the materials cost that Brits cited puts the device into a cost-per-kilowatt-hour comparable to that of solar energy technology. Sure, future improvements could improve that ratio of energy derived to device cost, but their technology is not likely to rock the geopolitical structure of the planet. Solar power certainly hasn't. Not until energy unit costs begin to be competitive with the existing-paradigm energy technologies will we see a new horizon in the field of energy independence and efficiency.  Wind power is presently touching on that vista.

Just because a technology taps "free energy" does not magically make it a holy-grail solution for mankind. Wind and Solar and Geothermal and other mainstream technologies have been doing that for a long time. They are making a difference -- more each day. But for a device to be competitive and to make even more of a difference, it needs to be able tap that free energy inexpensively and reliably as well as cleanly.

My assessment is that Lutec is years away from beginning to make a dent in the world's energy needs, if they are to make a difference at all. The integrity quotient of a company that makes significantly exaggerated claims on its website, and does not correct them after years of such misrepresentation, is seriously low. That, in and of itself, renders the company much less fit to make a difference for humanity.


Preuzeto ...

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Da kazem da je evidentirano i u Evropi kao patent 99957224,1

Malo cudno kako su ovi jos zivi.  Smile

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Pa, jel vidis da u tekstu pise da su na svom vebsajtu iznosili tvrdnje koje posle nisu dokazali, a taj njihov Lutec 1000 generator, uopste nije tako efikasana , itd, itd. Nisu dali nikakve dokaze, vec samo njihove tvrdnje...

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Pa mislim da ako je tako nesto napravljeno, ima onih kojima to smeta. Video sam sta pise, ali sam hteo cuti misljenja zbog onog Evropskog patenta. Zasto bi prihvatili patent ako je nedokazano ? Nisu valjda i u patentnom zavodu onako olako to prihvatili ?  Smile
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Pa ne znam, ali ja sve nesto mislim da patentni zavodi u stvari lepo napalcuju ljudima koji zele da zastite svoju ideju. Da li je ta ideja realno izvodiva, mislim da i nema veze. Kakvih sve nebuloza ima patentiranih... mada, ja stavrno ne znam kako to tacno funkcionise, tako da sam mozda u zabludi. Mozda ima neko na forumu ko je nesto patentirao, pa moze da nam kaze Smile Smile Smile
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To ti je dobro. Ako ima nekoga da kaze.
Doduse, koliko sam ranije cuo i citao, ovi nasi traze uredjaj, tehnicki elaborat ... pa se desavalo da ljudi nemaju novca da realizuju uredjaj i to ostane nepatentirano. Samo se tu opet postavlja pitanje, a gde sve to cuvaju ? Moguce i da nije broj nesto veliki, pa bi neki hangar ili sta vec posluzio. Ili da uredjaji nisu veliki.
Sta znam. Ne znam zaista. Dobro bi bilo sto kazes, kada bi nam neko iz prve ruke mogao to predociti.  Smile
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Ma nasi su uvek komplikovani. Dobro da ne traze kako ti se zove prababa i njenu potvrdu da se rodila. Zato smo tako napredni i razvijeni. Patentni zavod je da zastiti prava izuma, trebalo bi da je crtez ili vise crteza te kratak opis sustine na kojoj se zasniva rad tj. funkcionisanje izuma, sasvim dovoljno za zastitu. Koliko znam Tesla nije nosio svoje generatore u americki zavod za patente. Tamo stoje i cuvaju se crtezi i kratak opis funkcionisanja - toj nekoliko listova.

A nasi, elaborat - elaboriram im ga  majci. Sve sami strucnjaci, u stvari samo hoce da pokradu. Moj savet je : ne patentirajte nista kod nas, nema tu leba. Amerika, Svedska i tako to. U Srbiji je dobro samo u vezi prasica ( uh, danas probah sjajnu kolenicu u kupuse, covece, prva liga)... Tehnika? Ima, ali se ne ceni, vise se ceni pljacka, otimacina, prevara. Zato svi i begaju napolje, tamo ih vise cene. Ovde mnogo ima te gamadi po kancelarijama koja pije krv svima, pa tako i u patentnom zavodu... traze da vide uredjaj - ne mogu da verujem, pa oni se bre postavljaju kao vrhovni sudija za pronalazastvo i nauku, sta li? "Oj, Indijo, zemljo faraona!"  Smile Smile :ballbounce:sto rece tamo jedan, koji se hteo napraviti pametan  Smile

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Što se tiče patenta:

Šta se dokazuje patentom?

Jedan od omiljenih argumenata koji razni “prodavci magle” (pre svega
nadrilekari) navode kao dokaz da je njihov proizvod efikasan, jeste da je patentiran.
Suprotno prihvaćenom mišljenju, ovaj podatak ne govori ništa o
njegovoj efikasnosti - to je, jednostavno, dokaz da je proizvođač platio administraciju
koja će, u slučaju da pravo intelektualnog vlasništva nad proizvodom
postane sporno, potvrditi da je on bio prijavljen. I to je sve - patent ne
govori ništa o kvalitetu ideje, o tome da li ona “radi” ili ne, a još manje predstavlja
preporuku tržištu.

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Znaci nisam pogresio. Sad zamislite, koji su to nasi mamalazi u patentnom zavodu - drndaju ljude! Smile Nek patentira ko sta hoce, stvarnost ce pokazati da li je nesto ok ili ne. Smile Smile
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