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Šta mislite o starom Sumeru i toj pomalo "mističnoj i tajanstvenoj"  civilizaciji?

Zanimljivost,(nadam se da ne zamerate što nije prevedeno na srpski) ukratko Sumerani su poznavali sve planete našeg sunčevog sustava i njihove mesece, kao naša civilizacija danas, ali govore i o još jednom  našeg sunčevog sustava, planetu 'Nibiru' koji prolazi 'pored' zemlje svakih caa.3600godina? Ima tu još puno zanimljivih i intrigantnih stvari, pa ako koga zainteresuje neka obavezno poseti sajt www.sitchin.com, (Akademik Zecharia Sitchen, apsolitno največi stručnjak starog Sumera - pa pročitajte šta nam govori i poručuje 'prošlost').

The current works of researcher Zacharia Sitchen, a Jewish scholar of Wide-ranging disciplines, who has brought to life the translations of ancient Sumerian cuneiform writings which tell of visiting Gods. Sumer was thought to be a legend until 50 years ago.

The Sumerian tablets are dated around 4000 BC and accurately relate the stories of celestial planets that exist in our solar system complete with their moons, their dominate gaseous or aquatic features, their colors and their sizes all of these being accurate.

The tablets even record the existence of Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus. These are planets undiscovered by our scientists until the last three centuries, Pluto being discovered in this one.

According to researchers like Sitchen the Sumerian civilization had high rise buildings, streets, market places, schools, temples, metallurgy, medicine, surgery, textile making, gourmet foods, agriculture, irrigation, international trade, music, zoos, warfare, kingships and courts.

This society seemed to spring suddenly into full bloom, apparently from nowhere.

The Sumerians are responsible for the first monumental temples and palaces, for the founding of the first city states and most likely for the invention of writing (all in the period of 3100-3000 BCE) are the Sumerians.

The first written signs are pictographic, so they can be read in any language and one can't infer a particular language. A pictogram of an arrow means `arrow' in any language. A few centuries later, however, these signs were used to represent Sumerian phonetic values and Sumerian words.

The pictogram for an arrow is now used to represent ti, the Sumerian word for `arrow', but also for the phonetic sound ti in words not related to `arrow'.

So it is generally assumed that the Sumerians were also responsible for the pictographic signs, or possibly together with (or with a large influence of) the contemporaneous Elamites.

If the Sumerians aren't the ones who actually invented writing, then they are at least responsible for quickly adopting and expanding the invention to their economic needs (the first tablets are predominantly economic in nature).
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Pa, mislim da tajne te civilizacije nisu iscezle. One su se prenele u druge civilizacije i stavise u drugim oblicima doprle i do nase civilizacije XXI veka.
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Nisu iscezle, kako crno iscezle, pa pivo su sumeri napravili. Sto se mene tice to im je jedan od najvecih izuma i dostignuca :)
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Pivo manje-vise, to je ok, nego sto su se njihovi obicaji uvukli i maskirali u religiju koja zove sebe "hriscanskom".
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Pa i meni je pivo vaznije od te njihove religije. Zivelo pivo!
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Prvi pisani tragovi o spravljanju piva datiraju iz perioda 6000 godina p.n.e i poticu od Sumera koji su nastanjivali podrucje Mesopotamije, izmedju reka Tigar i Eufrat. Glinene tablice iz tog vremena ukazuju na to da je pivo bilo omiljeno pice, a pivari ugledni stanovnici dvora. Sumerska civilizacija se ugasila u 2.veku p.n.e., a Vavilon koji ju je nasledio, nastavio je tradiciju spravljanja piva. Kralj Vavilona Hamurabi (1728. do 1686. godine p.n.e.) poznat kao tvorac prvog pisanog zakona (Codex Hammurabi), koji je nadjen urezan u veliki kameni blok, regulisao je izmedju ostalog i uslove proizvodnje i prometa piva. Za to je ocigledno imao razloga, jer je vec tada u prometu bilo 20 razlicitih proizvoda tipa piva. Ovaj zakon bio je u upo-trebi vise od 1000 godina. U to vreme pivo obicno nije prodavano, vec se dobijalo zavisno od statusa, ili se menjalo za jecam. Seljaci su dobijali 2 l, sluge 3 l, a cinovnici i svestenici po 5 l na dan. Mada je bilo i vrlo trazena roba u trgovini. Zna se da je zajedno sa ostalom robom prelazilo put dug 1000 km do susednog Egipta.


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Sumeri su kao narod nestali u drugom milenijumu pijre n.e., stopivši se sa brijnim semitskim narodima koji su ih okruživali, ali jezik kojim su govorili i pismo kojim su pisali cuvani su u Mesopotamiji u religioznim obredima i pismima još dugo poslije njihovog nestanka: poslednji zapisi na sumerskom poticu iz prvog vijeka prije n.e., a nakon toga su I sumerski jezik i klinasto pismo definitivno nestali.
U svakonm slucaju narod koji je bio veoma vazan za razvoj covecanstva.
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GOING TO MARS

WAS THE “FACE” DEPICTED 4,500 YEARS AGO?

--Second of two articles—

The successful landing by NASA of two robotic rovers on Mars earlier this year was an occasion for joy and expectation – joy because so many of the preceding attempts (including by the Japanese and the British) have failed, and expectation of obtaining confirmation that Mars was once a watery planet.

This confirmation was announced by NASA on March 2, 2004.  NASA's spokesman even went as far as stating that "where there was water there could be life."  They speak of course, about bacteria.  

Commenting on predictions this would happen, I wrote in a Letter To The Editor of The New York Times (on January 18, 2004) that even if NASA succeeds in proving the existence of water in the past, “it would only affirm what most people by now believe anyway.”  NASA’s own photographs from the 1970’s and thereafter have already shown such evidence.

“To conclude that bacteria might have existed on Mars” (a possibility that would be indicated by the existence of water), I further wrote in my Letter, “will hardly excite the public; what would be exciting and highly significant for mankind’s past and future would be to find evidence of intelligent life – beings like us – on Mars.  The ancient Sumerians asserted so in their texts inscribed on clay tablets.  Mariner photographs from the 1970’s show possible remains of artificial structures (to leave aside the famed Face).  To send rovers to find bacterial evidence rather than verify evidence for intelligent beings on Mars, e.g. in the Cydonia region, is a red-herring cover-up.”

Intriguing Remains in Cydonia
The Letter, not unexpectedly, was not published… But the question remains; Why had NASA persistently avoided on-site examination of the Cydonia area?

In Genesis Revisited (1990) I reproduced a series of NASA’s own photographs, including photo 035-A-72 (Plate “E” in the book) that captured a panoramic view of Cydonia (see below).  There, clearly, the camera captured a rock carved to look like a human face, of a male wearing a helmet (plate “F” in the book) and the remains of walled structures, with two walls forming a right angle (plate “G” in the book).





Other NASA photographs reproduced in the book showed a lake shore, a water channel outfitted with piers, the remains of a pentagonal structure, of roads leading to elongated buildings.

Ignoring The Evidence
While in my writings and lectures I emphasized the structural evidence, it was the Face that captured the interest and imagination of various individuals and groups.  NASA, on its part, ignored all the evidences in its subsequent missions, focusing instead on geology.  It was only as a result of a public outcry that NASA finally directed an orbiter, Mars Pathfinder, to take a look at the Face – but only after a dust storm that covered most of the planet, and after fiddling electronically with the photographs to end up with a fuzzy picture.  (Some of the serious work to uncover the distortions was done by the Meta Research Institute under the leadership of the astronomer Thomas Van Flandern).  Yet, now distorted or not, the fact remains that the unusual rock is still there, and that it clearly showed a human-like face in the 1970’s photographs.

My conclusions were and still are that intelligent beings akin to us had been to Mars thousands of years ago.  The Sumerians knew who they were: The same Anunnaki from Nibiru who had come to Earth and maintained a way-station on Mars.

The Cylinder Seal Depiction
The Sumerian information is provided in texts on clay tablets; and in pictorial support of my conclusions I included in my books the rendering of a depiction on a 4,500 years-old cylinder seal, now kept in the Hermitage Museum in St. Petersburg in Russia (Fig. 91 in Genesis Revisited):



It shows an astronaut (“Eagleman”) on Earth (indicated by the seven dots, Earth being  the seventh planet counted from outside into the solar system, accompanied by the Moon’s crescent) greeted by an astronaut (“Fishman”, equipped for splashdowns) on Mars (the sixth planet when our solar system is entered from afar), and a spacecraft with extended panels and antennas in the heavens between them.

The “Face – 4,500 Years Ago?
It was a discerning fan, Richard L.C. of Manheim, PA, who drew my attention to the similarity between the Face in the NASA photographs (yes, there were several ones) as depicted in  Genesis Revisited and the helmeted face of the astronaut on Mars as depicted on the Sumerian seal; the latter has been enlarged for better comparison:



Though one is shown full face and the other (in the seal) in profile, the similarity is nothing short of uncanny!

Could the Sumerians have known of the Face on Mars 4,500 years ago?

The Yes answer is detailed in my latest book, The Lost Book of Enki.

It is time to start looking for the Real evidence Mars.

ZECHARIA SITCHIN

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GOING TO MARS

What is NASA Looking For?

--First of two articles—

The planet Mars is back in the news.  This time, in spite of preceding failures (by Japan, Britain) of Mars missions, manmade Landers and their robotic rovers – NASA’s Spirit and Opportunity -- made it safely and successfully to the Red Planet.  A spacecraft launched by the European Space Agency, Mars Express -– a companion to the British failed lander/rover mission -– is safely in orbit around Mars.  And the initial indications, and photographs, already suggest that the assumption underlying these missions will be proven true; That Mars was once a planet with water -– rivers, lakes, perhaps even seas; and that some of that water is still there.

Although the current explorations on Mars in search of water (then or even now) have been presented as a new endeavor triggered by photographs of the surface of Mars taken in 1996 (Mars Global Surveyor) and since 2001 (Mars Pathfinder), the fact is that photographs taken two decades and more ago, by the Mariner spacecraft, already showed such evidence.  In my book Genesis Revisited, 1990, I reproduced NASA’s own photographs to show evidence of water flows and shorelines, and concluded unequivocally that, at least in the past, Mars was a watery planet.

Searching for “Life”
So what exactly is NASA searching for?

Though only indirectly, with a wink or a Mona Lisa smile, NASA’s leaders say that “where there was water there could be life.”  Officially, they are all just searching for evidence of water.  If water is still there, it would make it so much more feasible to achieve the vision -– declared by President George W. Bush –- of sending people from Earth to Mars.  A dream for the future!

In the midst of such exciting developments, it seems to me appropriate to tell to All Who May Be Concerned: Travel between Earth and Mars by intelligent beings has already been achieved -– tens of thousands of years ago!

The Sumerian Evidence
The evidence for that was recorded –- in words and illustrations -– by the Sumerians, whose civilization blossomed out in Mesopotamia (now mostly Iraq) some six thousand years ago.

They did not claim the achievement of visiting Mars for themselves.  Rather, they wrote on their clay tablets about the Anunnaki (“Those who from Heaven to Earth came”) who came to Earth from their planet Nibiru, a twelfth member of our solar system (counting, as they did, the Sun, Moon and ten planets)  whose  great elliptical orbit around the Sun lasts some 3,600 (Earth-) years.  The many ancient texts, unearthed by archeologists, that deal with the Anunnaki, their comings and goings, and the astronomical knowledge (among other sciences) that they bequeathed to Mankind, have been revealed and explained in my series of books, beginning with The 12th Planet.

Moreover, the texts have been accompanied by illustrations found on clay tablets or drawn on cylinder seals.  In texts dealing with the actual space travel between the planets, Earth was designated as the seventh planet – which indeed it is but only if one counts from outside-in, where Pluto would be the first, Neptune the second, Uranus and Saturn third and fourth, Jupiter the fifth, Mars the sixth and Earth the seventh.  In those texts, Mars was called “The Way Station” – a stopover place between Nibiru and Earth.

And, amazingly but true, a circular tablet that can be seen on display in the British Museum in London, describes in eight segments various aspects of space travel between the Anunnaki’s planet Nibiru and the “Seventh Planet” (Earth) – Fig. 122 in The 12th Planet.  One segment in particular, enlarged here for clarity, (Fig. 123 in The 12th Planet) shows (and states) that the route traveled by Enlil (“Lord of the Command”) entailed passage by seven planets; it also called for a route diversion between the planet DILGAN (Jupiter) and APIN (Mars):




Mars as a way station

In their texts the Sumerians wrote that the Anunnaki traveled to Earth in groups of fifty.  The first team, under the leadership of E-A (“Whose home is water”) splashed down in the waters of the Persian Gulf, waded ashore, end established ERIDU (“Home in the Faraway”).  In time, 600 Anunnaki were deployed on Earth and another 300 operated shuttlecraft between Earth and Mars – yes, Mars!

Pictorial evidence for the Earth-Mars connection is provided by a depiction on a cylinder seal (now kept at the Hermitage Museum in St. Petersburg, Russia) – Fig. 121 in The 12th Planet:



It depicts an astronaut (“Eagleman”) on Earth (the planet marked by the seven dots, accompanied by the crescent of the Moon) and an astronaut on Mars (the six-pointed star symbol) –- the latter depicted as one from the “Fishmen” class of astronauts, those equipped to splashdown in waters.  Between the two planets an object is depicted, that could only be a spacecraft, with extended panels and antennas.

A Space Base on Mars

To maintain, over thousands of years, a space base on Mars required water for survival.   The “Fishman’s” attire of the one on Mars suggests bodies of water on Mars.  Moreover, as detailed in my latest book The Lost Book of Enki (“Lord Earth,” a later title for Ea), water was used by the Anunnaki to propel their spacecraft; and the availability of water on Mars made it a suitable way-station.

The Anunnaki, I have concluded in my books, used Mars not just for a quick stopover; they created a permanent space base on Mars, complete with structures and roads.  In Genesis Revisited I reproduced numerous photographs taken by NASA’s Mariner-9 in 1972 and Viking-1 Orbiter in 1976 that clearly showed a variety of artificial structures there.  Some of them were in the Cydonia area with its famed “Face.”

Not only such ancient evidence, but NASA’s own photographs from the 1970’s onward, indicated the presence of water on Mars.  A search for watery evidence is thus, no great innovation.

Searching – Or AVOIDING?

The current search for evidence of water on Mars is hinted as an indirect effort to find evidence for “life” on Mars.  But as in a previous attempt to test Martian soil (that was deemed unsuccessful), the current one looks again, at best, for evidence of microbial life.  This impels one to ask:  Why is NASA not sending its rovers to such areas as Cydonia, where its own photographs  have shown remains of artificial structures (to ignore, for a moment, the “Face”)?

As exciting as a discovery that microbes had been on Mars would be -– isn’t the avoidance of closer looks at areas with structures (and the Face) indicative of a desire to not find real Life on Mars –- the life represented by intelligent beings who fashioned us to look and be like them?

For those who launch the space missions, the word “Extraterrestrials” remains taboo.

ZECHARIA SITCHIN

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