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Припремање јавности за нове набавке и нове трошкове. Већ виђено.
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Ruska vlada odlučila da kupi Migove koje je Alžir vratio i uvrsti ih u VVS i tako pomogne pomgne kompaniji koja je u dugovima. Ono što je još zanimljivije je da će Mornarica dobiti MiG-29 KUB za Kuznjecova a najzanimljivija je zadnja najava o narudžbi MiG-35 za VVS čime se ovom avionu mnogo povećavaju šanse pri izboru novog aviona na MMRCA tenderu za RV Indije. Država pokušava da spase MiG korporaciju koja ima dug oko 1,2 milijadre dolara.

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Russian state to order naval fighters to support MiG company
21:52    |    11/ 02/ 2009
   
MOSCOW, February 11 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian government will order a number of MiG-29 KUB Fulcrum-D carrier-based fighters as part of the state support for the ailing MiG aircraft maker, a deputy prime minister said on Wednesday.

"The state will support in every possible way, including financially, this one of Russia's largest companies. A draft weapons procurement program envisions the purchase of MiG-29 KUB naval fighters for deployment on future aircraft carriers," Sergei Ivanov told a meeting of aircraft industry officials in Moscow.

The MiG corporation sustained losses of some 11 billion rubles in 2008, with its debt running at 44.8 billion rubles ($1.25 billion).

Apart from the ongoing financial crisis, the MiG corporation has been hit by Algeria's decision to tear up a $1.28 billion contract to buy 34 MiG-29s, signed in 2006, over the airplanes' "inferior quality." The 15 planes delivered were sent back to Russia.

Ivanov said that Russia's Defense Ministry would pay 25 billion rubles ($690 million) for 24 MiG fighters produced under the Algerian contract.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said earlier on Wednesday he had signed a resolution allocating 15 billion rubles ($417 million) in federal budget funds to the MiG company to increase charter capital through an issue of additional shares.

"These measures will allow us to integrate the MiG corporation into Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) without making the UAC bear the burden of the current MiG debts," Ivanov said.

The MiG corporation is well-known for its MiG-29 and latest MiG-35 Fulcrum-F fighters.

The MiG-35 is a contender with the Eurofighter Typhoon, F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale, JAS 39 Gripen and F-16 Falcon in a tender for more than 126 multirole combat aircraft to be procured by the Indian Air Force in the near future.

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MOSCOW, February 11 (RIA Novosti) - The MiG aircraft-building corporation will receive 11 billion rubles ($308 million) in the first quarter of the year as part of a 17.3 billion-ruble ($485 million) state defense contract, the Russian prime minister said on Wednesday.

Vladimir Putin has also signed a resolution allocating a further 15 billion rubles ($417 million) in federal budget funds to the corporation.

"The funds will be used to increase charter capital through an issue of additional shares," Putin said.

Putin said that the MiG corporation had sustained losses of some 11 billion rubles in 2008, with its debt running at 44.8 billion rubles ($1.25 billion).

"Losses totaled some 11 billion rubles last year, and the overall debt is 44.8 billion rubles," he said at a meeting with MiG executives.

He added that there would be no cuts in Russia's state defense procurements in 2009.

"Yesterday, after a thorough analysis of budget capabilities, we made in effect a final decision not to cut state defense contracts significantly," Putin said.

Apart from the ongoing financial crisis, the MiG corporation has been hit by Algeria's decision to tear up a $1.28 billion contract to buy 34 MiG-29s, signed in 2006, over the airplanes' "inferior quality." The 15 planes delivered were sent back to Russia.

The corporation also has a substantial debt to suppliers, in particular engine makers and missile manufacturers - reportedly more than $80 million.

Last year, MiG, along with other "strategic" companies, was promised funding through the government's anti-crisis package, specifically firm production orders from the Russian Air Force.

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MiG-35s for the Russian Air Force
Posted by Bill Sweetman at 2/11/2009 7:59 PM CST

Maxim Pyadushkin writes:  The Russian Air Force has decided to order a batch of MiG-35 fighters, according to MiG design bureau director Vladimir Barkovsky, and the order has already been included in the procurement program for the next three years. The move will secure the future of the MiG-35, a highly modified version of the MiG-29 that is Russia’s candidate for India’s MMRCA contest.

This news is certainly good for MiG Corporation, which is trying to recover from a difficult financial situation. The Russian government has already allocated 15 billion rubles to increase the company’s charter capital and to help cover its 44.8 billion ruble debt (about $1.2 billion). On February 11,  prime minister Vladimir Putin announced a new 17.3 billion ruble order for MiG. This apparently includes the purchase by the Russian Air Force of the MiG-29SMT fighters rejected by Algeria in 2007-2008.

The purchase of MiG-35s will be a serious boost for the fighter’s prospects in India, but Russian government officials are still worried that these plans might be postponed due to budget cuts resulting from the economic crisis. According to unofficial information, some Russian defense manufacturers are already facing 15-30% cuts in domestic procurement programs approved earlier.
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Skrenuo bih paznju samo na ovu recenicu, znaci nije za Kuznjecova, vec za buduce nosace. Mada verovatno nije iskljuceno ni da bude u sluzbi na Kuznjecovu.
Nada za oporavak MiG-a je indijski tender, u suprotnom, drzava ce morati da pokrije dugove koji nisu mali. I naravno, novi avion. Ne moze se ziveti od stare slave.
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A draft weapons procurement program envisions the purchase of MiG-29 KUB naval fighters for deployment on future aircraft carriers
Skrenuo bih paznju samo na ovu recenicu, znaci nije za Kuznjecova, vec za buduce nosace. Mada verovatno nije iskljuceno ni da bude u sluzbi na Kuznjecovu.
Nada za oporavak MiG-a je indijski tender, u suprotnom, drzava ce morati da pokrije dugove koji nisu mali. I naravno, novi avion. Ne moze se ziveti od stare slave.

U pravu si Ramon. Tekst kaže za buduće nosače. Mada s obzirom da budući nosači neće biti gotovi prije 2015. a da će Migovi biti spremni mnogo brže ipak će službu početi sa Kuznjecova. Ruska Mornarica je u početku preferirala Su-33UB mada izgleda da se sa 29-kom neće ni malo buniti. Ako se ova 29-ka opremi AESA radarom i avionikom sa 35-ice dobija se fenomenalan mornarički avion. Dakle, konačno će čistokrvni lovac zamijeniti Su-25UTG koji sada služi za obuku pilota.

Evo novih Migova-29 SMT primljenih u VVS. Nova kamuflažna šema im fino stoji.

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Ma, jasno. Samo kazem da naizgled su isti. To je dobro jer neprijatelj tesko uocava sta je u pitanju, pogotovo u panicnim trenutcima napada - ko ga napada, sta, koji avioni, kakve su im performanse...? Slican izgled dovodi do zabune neprijatelja.
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