Ljudi cine greske posebno kada su napeti, a neki ljudi su jednostavno bolesnici, nije ni prvi ni poslednji put da se tako nesto desilo.

Posto nemas svoje dete, ne mozes da shvatis kako je roditeljima tog momka,

ali probaj da shvatis da ne bi tako nonsalantno govorio o "greskama" i "bolje 1 nevin mrtav, nego stotine zrtava" da su fasisti ubili tvog oca "greskom" npr. zato sto ne zna dovoljno dobro engleski a zatekao se u metrou u Londonu.

Nije "bolje" ijedan nevin mrtav nego ista drugo. Nedopustiv je i jedan jedini nevin mrtav u ime drzave.

Milijardu puta je bolje 100 mrtvih od strane terorista nego jedan covek ubijen u ime drzave potpuno bez razloga, iz obesti drzavnih sluzbenika.

Fiat Isutitia, ruat caelum; fiat Iustitia -- pereat mundus!

Hipoteticki.. sta da taj mladic jeste imao bombu i da je ta bomba eksplodirala, i on i ko zna koliko ljudi bi bilo mrtvo. Ko zna koliko neduznih ljudi bi bilo mrtvo zato sto neki policajac nije hteo da povuce obarac, eksploziv je dovoljno uznapredovao da ti vise ne treba bure od 50 kila da bi digao u vazduh zgradu, to sad moze da uradi i hemijska olovka.
Greska jeste napravljena, neduzan mladic jeste poginuo zbog nekog umobolnog specijalca, ali sta, da opet kazem, da to nije bila greska, da je taj mladic zaista nosio eksploziv i da se digao u vazduh kad je video policiju? Koliko bi onda majki i oceva neduzne dece plakalo ?

Poenta je u tome da on nije imao bombu i da je to policajcima bilo sasvim jasno, i da su ga ubili samo zato sto su rasisti, pripadnici dominantne grupe u drzavi kojima je dato ovlascenje da uteruju strah svima, a narocito "drugacijima".

Sutra ce tako pucati u Crnca, prekosutra u zenu jer nosi pantalone a ne suknju, onda u coveka u kolicima, homoseksualca, itd.

Ima ona cuvena recenica nekakvog nemackog pastora -- mislim da se zove Martin, prezime sam zaboravio -- o tome da su prvo dosli za Jehovine svedoke, i ljudi su cutali, pa za Jevreje, hendikepirane, homoseksualce, socijaldemokrate itd. I na kraju kaze da su dosli po njega ali nije imao ko da govori.

Dakle, mora da se govori protiv fasizma, a ono sto su ucinili policajci u Londonu nije bio nikakva pokusaj da se radi u interesu stanovnika Londona i toboze zastita od bombasa, nego cist fasizam pokazivanje brutalne sile egzemplarnim zastrasivanjem.

To sam rekao jos odmah cim je vest objavljena, a sada su to pokazale i engleske vlasti, kako prenosi Guardian, jedna od najobjektivnijih novina Velike Britanije.

Zaista, cudi me da to ne mozes da shvatis i uporno zastupas potpuno promasenu tezu o navodnoj zastiti od terorizma. Ubistvo De Menezesa nema nikakve veze sa tim.

Preuvelicavas.
Smrt jednog coveka nije demostracija sile nego greska, slucajna ili namerna. Po mom misljenju greska iz straha od ponovnih napada, greska zbog opste panike koja je vladala, mozda neobjasnjiva, ali i dalje usamljeni slucaj.
Nije ni prvi ni poslednji slucaj policajca ili specijalca koji je ubio nevinog coveka greskom, bilo da je iste ili razlicite boje koze.
Ako neko hoce da demonstrira silu to moze da uradi uvek, na bilo kom mestu, a kome je bas stalo da se pokaze ima sasvim dovoljno trgova i mesta okupljajna u Londonu da to uradi. Zna se da su teroristi sirom sveta mnogo puta do sada napade pravili u podzemnoj zeleznici.
Ne opravdavam ja nikoga, ali ni ne pravim teoriju zavere od usamljenog slucaja.

Dead Man's Kin Lashes Out at U.K. Police

By THOMAS WAGNER, Associated Press Writer 58 minutes ago

LONDON - The cousin of a Brazilian man fatally shot by police who mistook him for a terrorist said Friday that London's police chief lied about the killing and should resign.


Alessandro Pereira, 25, shed tears as he read his statement during a nationally televised news conference in London. His cousin, Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, was shot in the head seven times by undercover police who followed him onto a subway train July 22, believing he was linked to a failed bomb attack on the city's transit system the previous day.

"I have always believed that those who break the law should be punished, and some people have broken the law," he said. "They have killed Jean and then told lies. ... My family wants the truth.

"For the sake of my family, for the sake of the people of London, in Jean's name I say that those responsible should resign. Ian Blair should resign."

Two weeks before Menezes was shot, 52 commuters were killed by bombs on London subway trains and a double-decker bus in the first reported suicide bombing in western Europe.

Pereira said his cousin did not look like a suicide bomber the day he was killed and was not running from police, despite what witnesses and police have said.

"The police ... they met my family. Yet they still didn't tell us the truth," Pereira said. "Did they think because we are poor Brazilians, we don't deserve the truth?"

Recently leaked documents from the official complaints commission investigation into Menezes' killing appeared to contradict original statements by London's Metropolitan Police that he had been behaving suspiciously.

Blair has apologized for the killing, but he told journalists July 22 that Menezes failed to obey instructions from surveillance police who were following him, suspecting him of being a suicide bomber.

Witnesses reported that Menezes was wearing a heavy padded coat and jumped over ticket barriers at Stockwell subway station before bolting toward a train.

The Metropolitan Police never contradicted those claims.

However, documents leaked to ITV News suggest that Menezes, an electrician, walked casually into the subway station and was wearing [b]a light denim jacket.[/b]

After descending the escalator and running to catch his train, Menezes took a seat in the carriage and was pointed out to armed police by one of at least three surveillance officers who followed him onto the train.

The surveillance officer says he then "heard shouting which included the word 'police,'" ITV reported.

Menezes stood up and walked toward the surveillance officer, who tackled Menezes and pushed him back into the seat, then "I heard a gunshot very close to my ear and was dragged away on to the floor," the officer said.

On Thursday, the London police were accused of initially opposing the independent investigation into Menezes' killing, and of covering up what happened.

Blair denied any wrongdoing, saying: "This is not a cover-up."

"Those allegations, I have to say, do strike at the integrity of this office and the integrity of the Metropolitan Police, and I fundamentally reject them," Blair told the Evening Standard newspaper.

Blair also denied trying to block an independent inquiry, saying it was vital to continue with the counterterrorism investigation.

Asad Rehman, an activist working with the Menezes family on a campaign called Justice 4 Jean, also demanded Blair's resignation.

"We believe that the integrity of Ian Blair and his office has been questioned, and we think the majority of London ... would agree with us that Ian Blair should resign," Rehman told the news conference.

Brazil's government said it was "outraged" by the reports about Menezes' killing and would send two officials to Britain to meet with the commission investigating the killing and London police.

Brazil expects officials to "obtain ample clarifications" about the killing, the Foreign Ministry said Thursday in Sao Paulo.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050819/ap_on_re_eu/britain_bombings